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This means there is a very good chance Barkely will be there at 4. Agreed. I think he's the guy I want at 4 too. I like Chubb, but we need offensive playmakers (and he'd bring a lot of excitement to the team). I dunno what this does to Duke Johnson though. And I love Duke, but Barkley is a three down type of player. Duke will see his opportunities limited if Barkley comes on
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j/c... Evan Silva Verified account @evansilva Past 2-day developments suggest a mad QB rush is coming at top of draft. Great year to have a pick in there to trade out of & land a bounty. Tweet
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j/c... Evan Silva Verified account @evansilva Past 2-day developments suggest a mad QB rush is coming at top of draft. Great year to have a pick in there to trade out of & land a bounty. Tweet This is how I envision it. If there's a draft to get a decent QB prospect, here we are. Us being at #1 and there at #4 is just an overpowering amount of leverage.
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I think the 4th pick is for sale.
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I'd think it'd depend on who's left at four and how bad somebody wants that last guy.
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If Chubb or Barkley are there at 4, I do not think we trade back. If both are gone, a good possibility.
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If Chubb or Barkley are there at 4, I do not think we trade back. If both are gone, a good possibility. What about Minka. I would take him over Chubb or Barkley.
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If Chubb or Barkley are there at 4, I do not think we trade back. If both are gone, a good possibility. What about Minka. I would take him over Chubb or Barkley. I'd be fine with a trade-back to #6. The Jets will want a QB, and we'd have 2 of those three still available to us.
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If Chubb or Barkley are there at 4, I do not think we trade back. If both are gone, a good possibility. What about Minka. I would take him over Chubb or Barkley. I'd be fine with a trade-back to #6. The Jets will want a QB, and we'd have 2 of those three still available to us. I could live with that as long as we get a QB at # 1.
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Not sure about how the signing of Hyde impacts this.
My first thought is they will not draft Barkley. That they have other interests for the Fourth pick even if Barkley is there.
They will still draft a back but most likely in the second round.
I could be wrong but intuition tells me so.
As far as the first pick? No doubt in my mind it is quarterback.
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I would say that's a fair assumption as of 1:00 pm today .. lol
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I think your right. They have decided not to have a real running game and just to have a pittance of one. We will lose out yet again on having a great player because a new GM wants to prove how smart he is. It's the Browns way after all.
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Kinda early for so much doom n gloom...
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Kinda early for so much doom n gloom... Tell me about it. Sign Carlos Hyde in exchange for Issiah Crowell and the sky is falling. It's unbelievable. As I said earlier, Haley was OC and Head Coach for Jamal Charles. As manager, John Dorsey drafted Kareem Hunt last year. Why is there this impression that there will be no running game?
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Carlos Hyde was rated as the 21st best FA including the top FA RB ... www.nfl.com ... 
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Kinda early for so much doom n gloom... Tell me about it. Sign Carlos Hyde in exchange for Issiah Crowell and the sky is falling. It's unbelievable. As I said earlier, Haley was OC and Head Coach for Jamal Charles. As manager, John Dorsey drafted Kareem Hunt last year. Why is there this impression that there will be no running game? Because folks have convinced themselves that if we don't draft Barkley, we won't be able to run.
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Barkley is out now I think and I've pimped him hard. LT comes into play. QB should be 1 or 4 but Taylor might be the guy they targeted for the next few years so I'm not sure what we're going to do in the draft. If we get Pryor I think the offense is set.
On D we need CBs, maybe a rusher. We might be targeting Chubb now.
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If Buffalo trades up with the Colts then that puts the Jets in desperation mode to move up to #4, and desperate teams spend what ever it takes or whatever we ask for + we may still get Chubb at #6 ... 
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The way free agency has gone is breaking perfectly for us. It seems like two teams will be jumping into the second and third slots (two of the Broncos, Jets, and Bills), leaving us with our choice of non-QB or the Giants and Colts stay where they are and pick non-QBs and we have the trade up spot.
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I don’t know if the Jets go QB now, not after signing McKown and Bridgewater. I think they’re gonna see what they have with Bridgewater and look next year, unless he shows them something.
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One year contracts.
I doubt that any of the QB signings other than Cousins excludes any of their teams from drafting a quarterback.
I still believe quarterbacks could go 1, 2, 3.
We are in a golden position at four.
We will have multiple options.
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I don’t know if the Jets go QB now, not after signing McKown and Bridgewater. I think they’re gonna see what they have with Bridgewater and look next year, unless he shows them something. Bridgewater is a safety net in case they can't get the guy they want.
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Both those guys could be on crutches by mid season...
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As far as impact which player between Barkley, Chubb, or Fitzpatrick would have the most impact on winning?
All three players are the top guys at their position.
We have added two safety's in Peppers and now Randall.
We have added Hyde.
We have Garrett and Ogbah.
Who then is the BPA ?
My guess is Fitzpatrick is out at four.
If it came down to Chubb and Barkley. I believe Dorsey would take Chubb. Because he values pass rusher more and believes there are good runners he could get later in the draft.
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You can go a long way with a strong D and limiting the O’s time to execute causes them to make mistakes. Give me Chubb.
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If it came down to Chubb or Barkley at #4, we are taking Barkley. You can take that to the bank.
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I would not be so sure. I believe Dorsey would be more inclined to go DE and Chubb.
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Not a chance. Barkley is a game changer.
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If it came down to Chubb or Barkley at #4, we are taking Barkley. You can take that to the bank. I would sig bet you on that If I new how to make cool sigs
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If Barkley is there at #4, and Dorsey does not take him, then Dorsey might as well leave town.
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If it came down to Chubb or Barkley at #4, we are taking Barkley. You can take that to the bank. John Dorsey has never worked for a team that has taken a running in the first round. . . or second round.
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It will definitely be Chubb. Dorsey will never take Barkley because he obviously doesn't care about the running game.
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It will definitely be Chubb. Dorsey will never take Barkley because he obviously doesn't care about the running game. What's wrong with you lately? Did Hyde do this to you? C'mon man. Chubb Or Barkley at 4 is a major decision to make. If those 2 are there, there is NO WAY I'm moving down. Could we make an Offensive SPLASH? Gotta believe Barkley is #1 on our board. These guys seem to be locked in on Randall to FS. I love the Carrie signing. Back that up with Isaiah Oliver at 33 and this Secondary is totally rebuilt. Peppers to SS. What's the BEST way to help your Pass Rush? A SOLID Secondary. Conversely, what's the BEST way to help your Secondary? A SOLID Pass Rush. I think Dorsey goes CHUBB at 4. Chubby is growing on me. Big-time. That just sounds funny. Lol. Jeezuz. 3rd Down, Chubb, Ogbah, Brantley, Garrett. Good luck saving your QB. Chubb and Oliver would take this Defense to another level.
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A relentless pass rush and an offense that may actually hang onto the ball for a number of series WILL make a difference. Will it translate to a bunch of wins this year? Who knows. It's still a pretty ugly schedule but hey, teams can turn it around quickly and go to pieces quickly in the league. I'm in for Chubb lately also. I want Olines to be stressed out when they see we're in town.
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A relentless pass rush and an offense that may actually hang onto the ball for a number of series WILL make a difference. Will it translate to a bunch of wins this year? Who knows. It's still a pretty ugly schedule but hey, teams can turn it around quickly and go to pieces quickly in the league. I'm in for Chubb lately also. I want Olines to be stressed out when they see we're in town. What are the 2 things that killed us last year? Pass Defense and Turnovers. With a QB like Taylor that protects the ball the way he does, and Chubb and Oliver added to this Defense, anything can happen. As long as we KEEP our Run Defense at the better than AVERAGE level it was last year.
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All you whiners need to chill.
I'm telling you right now, once Roethlisberger retires the Browns are setting themselves up to take over the AFC North.
And we'll have the YOUNGEST Franchise QB in hand in Darnold or Rosen.
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I would bet Chubb is the #1 non QB on our board.
I don't think Dorsey has anything against the run game but believes that he can find a very talented RB later in the draft. History has shown that he can do this. And not just once as a fluke but he has done so repeatedly.
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After reading Dorsey saying that he wants Taylor to be the long term starter for the Browns ( http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...ncart_big-photo ), I don't expect a first round QB pick. So Chubb at 1 and Barkley at 4 are well within the realm of possibility.
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I was thinking that too. Then Lamar Jackson at #33?
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I would bet Chubb is the #1 non QB on our board.
I don't think Dorsey has anything against the run game but believes that he can find a very talented RB later in the draft. History has shown that he can do this. And not just once as a fluke but he has done so repeatedly.
kwhip - What is your infatuation with Oliver? You mention him in almost every post. I easily have 5-7 guys in this draft at Cb that I prefer over him. What are you seeing that I am not. I'm counting on a CB run mid first. He'd be one of the best left at 33. Love his size. 6'1" with really long arms and excellent speed. Top end and closing. Good hip turn. Really good in tight coverage at the LOS. Just what we need for Williams. Plus I read we're targeting him at 33. Lol.
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