DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Free Agency Chapter 2

Agreed. We can use 4 WR easily. Gordon, Landry, Coleman, Pryor. And then a fifth who knows where.


The chances of Coleman and Gordon being active at the same time just don't seem that high to me. no for too long at least

Mathieu will probably be very expensive, but I would like him. We need that in the DB

I agree. I don't give him more than a"show me" deal.


His best deal from us was given last year.


Sorry kid, you and or your agent screwed up.

I think the Mathieu ship has sailed. He is either a free safety or a nickel corner. We have both of those things now and Honey Badger is going to be expensive.

No sweat. Here are updated numbers, it is still missing Hyde and Mitchell.

Dead Cap:
$14,268,719
Est. Cap Space (All):
$65,037,537
Est. Cap Space (Top 51):
$75,462,537

61m for 2019 at this point.

Former Redskins CB Breeland, who the Browns were interested in, has failed his physical with the Panthers.

Interesting. Wonder why.

Maybe the Browns can sign him also.



But what's up with Terrelle Pryor. Or maybe Jordan Matthews. We can really use one more WR

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974727122877952001



We really don't need another veteran wide receiver. We have Josh Gordon (who people will try to discount, but the team is clearly relying on him), Jarvis Landry, and Corey Coleman. Those three are legit, real NFL wide receivers. Then we have David Njoku, who can totally be a beast next season if given the ball more, and Seth Devalve. On top of those five we also have Duke Johnson who should also get the ball more. We have six legit receiving targets, one more might make the situation messy.

It might be interesting for the Browns to now take a flyer on Breeland. The injury sounds like one he has recovered from before, and a contract could be much less expensive now, with less money guaranteed.

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40017830-4

But does this make sense? Does it make sense to rely on Josh Gordon? Cause I know you've been on this board awhile. I'm thinking at least 10 years. So you've probably seen Josh Gordon right from the beginning when he was drafted by Tom Heckert.

I've always felt that we should rely on Josh Gordon as a Number 4 receiver. He's being paid like one, we should view him as one. Let him surprise us.

As of now, we have absolutely no reason to be "surprised".

I'm done being let down by this guy, but i'm not done with him. He owes us two seasons (this year as an ERFA and next year as a RFA). After that, we can franchise him if he proves to be capable of being active in the NFL.

Until then, Josh should be viewed as a pleasant surprise to our roster.


And that's why I've been banging the table for Pryor or Matthews. Because I'm ready for Gordon to fail a drug test and Coleman to break his hand, and we'll be looking at Jarvis Landry, Kasen Williams, and Hollywood Higgins as our starting three WRs in that 3WR 1TE 1RB formation that is run 58% of the time in the NFL



EDIT: I'm a History Major to go along with a Tug Boat Driver. In both fields, you like to focus on patterns and not making the same mistake twice. In fact, in the world of Tug Boats, with serious mistakes, you'll be very lucky if you have an opportunity to make the same mistake twice. But you never forget a close call. So I guess that's not that relative. But still...........

Relying on Gordon has shown to be a mistake. Relying on Coleman has shown to be a mistake as well.

Are you comfortable with this receiving corps

It just seems like the team is relying on him. Whether that is right or wrong is not for met to decide (I also have an irrational love for Josh Gordon).

I want as much talent on this team as is possible. Like you said, we have no idea if Gordon will stay clean, and/or is Coleman will stay healthy. We should add another veteran, and a 2nd round draft pick.

Man, someone needs to send a detailed history of Josh Gordon to John Dorsey or something........ Cause we need another legit, NFL Starting Receiver

Agreed. But is Terrelle Pryor, on another one year prove it deal, really the guy you want as your fourth wide receiver?

Not me.

I may be in the minority, but I am good with the wide receivers we have right now. I would be fine if we didn't invest in the position anymore this off-season.

Did you not like his 1,000 receiving season 2 years ago?

Pryor is not a #1 receiver, but he can be a useful receiver, with some big play ability. In 2016, he had 77 catches, of which 11 went for 20+, and 4 of those went for 40+ yards. Of his 77 catches, 48 went for 1st downs. Yeah, I think that he can be a useful 3/4 WR.

I am by no means sold on Coleman, anyway. He has to show that he can stay on the field, and then he has to show that he can play. He has only been able to play 18 out of his 1st 32 games in the NFL. He has been a pedestrian receiver overall. I don't want to just dump him, but I am sure not willing to rely upon him if I am in charge.

Not his 240 yards a year ago with a better QB.

In a different city, different locker room, different coach.

We've seen Terrelle be successful here

Guy's a scumbag. Karma will catch up to the Vikings on this one

The Texans claimed Sammie Coates. That's surprising to me.

I would like to see us go after Vin Curry. He is disruptive, pressures the QB well, and can also play the run well.

Is Pat Mac reading the board .... and my posts in particular? Hmmmmm

PatMcManamon
‏
Verified account

@PatMcManamon
1m1 minute ago
More
Panthers nullify contract with CB Bashaud Breeland deal after he fails physical over issue he deems not serious; will this prompt #Browns to take another look?

A different OC different QB here.

I'd like to see them add a WR in the draft. Preferably from the 2nd round.

DJ Moore would be a nice addition. Maybe even a guy like Anthony Miller, should he fall to the fourth.

I agree in regard to Pryor. No thanks.

That's my thought as well. Once past the starting 3, we are pretty thin...

He was injured last year. He had surgery on his ankle.

Minnesota Vikings
‏
Verified account

@Vikings
4m4 minutes ago
More
We have released WR Jarius Wright.

I think that he might be an interesting, low cost option. He's more of a slot guy, but who knows how the guys we have settle.

Crabtree to Ratbirds

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...al-with-ravens/

i'd go after Breeland for sure

I mostly agree. As far as I am concerned, Pryor had his best shot with us and walked away.


I don't agree in that I would invest a draft pick or two towards receiver....maybe a 2nd rounder and then a later pick...maybe round 5 or 6, depending on who was there.

Ok....if we sign him, it needs to be on a damaged goods contract.


Maybe it's just me, but I don't forget that we offered him the best deal, yet he opted for a show me contract.


I give him credit for taking the chance, but that was then, this is now. Things change.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-to-offer-sheet

CB Fuller goes to Packers.

I don't get it. What's ironic about visiting on Saturday?

Neither hot nor cold for his return. Rather a young draft pick shine.

Any interest in Eric Reid?

It's a loaded question because he was a "kneeler" and nobody is calling his agent. He's graded as an above average DB.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/eric-reid/7799

He made a business deal that didn't work out for him. Cousins or Kizer/Kessler? I might have bolted, too.

A year later, we might see him as an upgrade to what had been a crap WR unit, and now he sees us differently, too.

That was then, this is now, right?

j/c:

I hope we sign Pryor to be our 3rd WR. Coleman is overrated by certain posters on this board. He is a bad route runner, is injured a lot, has trouble w/his temper, has poor hands, and doesn't make enough of the big plays that I thought he would make. He's been a huge disappointment and I think his future w/the team is in jeopardy if he doesn't get his crap together.

Pryor was a far superior receiver to Coleman when both were on the team together. Sashi is gone. We have legit guys in the FO now. I think we bring him back.