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I think the Giants will stay at pick at 2 now that I think about it . The cost to move up for any other team now after this huge price was paid would be even higher. The Bills would have to give a TON to get up there.

Not saying he can’t play in cold weather. Just saying CFL is probably his best option if he wants to play QB. My opinion.

Everyone is assuming they moved up for a QB, I'd laugh if they picked Nelson or Chubb at #3. Their OL sucks and they have a big need for an Edge player. I'm not suggesting they'll do this, just being devil's advocate.

Why they traded up now is kind of baffling, they must want someone that they're pretty comfortable that he won't be taken by the Browns or Giants. And, they have a lot of needs and 3 second round picks would have gone a long way.

Yea.. I think they felt pressure to do it now before another team could.

Trading Emmanuel Ogbah would make no sense. He is young, cheap, good, and plays a premium position. Even we draft Bradley Chubb, Ogbah still has value. He can move inside and/or give Garrett or Chubb a breather if needed. Depth on the edge is never bad.

The devil needs a better advocate. lol Nobody gives three 2nd rounders to move up to #3 for anything other than a QB. Unless maybe your name is Ditka!

Kinda like Draft Day... didn't the Browns trade up "to take a QB" but Sonny drafted a LB instead?


Of course that was just the movies....

they need a long snapper really bad.

Or Sonny Weaver

So first three picks will be QB's.

Does that make sense?

Barkley at#4, hallelujah!!

I think you are going to be sorely disappointed if your expectations don't change.

I'm just not sold on Giants taking a QB yet.. Pat may think ELI still has a few decent years left and convince the FO to add talent elsewhere.

Here's the rub. Your QB is 37 years old. So when will you have another chance to draft a QB at #2 in a good QB class? I don't believe some understand how this is the perfect opportunity to address the most important position by far in the NFL as your current QB is on the decline. I said they would go QB before that was the popular opinion and it seems a lot of people are catching up to the math.

Is it safe to say that the Jets called the Giants first and offered the same package for the second pick? Let's assume they did.

If that's the case, then the Giants told them no (obviously). This either means the Giants are taking a QB or are really, really, dumb.

especially since it's not like Eli has been having brady or brees numbers. he's been steadily declining in play. for the giants, they are absolutely going QB at 2.

Story is they DID call the Giants but the price was too high or they were not interested. The thing is.. If the Giants DONT take a QB now they also know a lot of needy teams will have gotten their guy this year and would have a LOT of capital next year to move up in the draft if so desired.

if we go with Chubb, the combo of Ogbah and Garrett and Chubb is really enticing

This is the trick that we fell into every year prior to this year. If the team picking first overall needs a QB, it doesn't matter how much you have to trade.

I, for one, have never doubted NYG are drafting a QB. Remember early in the season when they appeared to be trying to out lose the Browns? I believe that was called "tanking for Darnold" at the time.

After Jets blockbuster trade, Browns sitting pretty

"Things keep falling the Browns' way. Finally. If the Giants do what other teams I speak to expect – draft running back Saquon Barkley or edge rusher Bradley Chubb – then Dorsey is going to be doing backflips while simultaneously eating steamed crabs and maybe sipping from an ice cold Natty Boh Crab Shack Shandy. Dorsey is already in line to land any quarterback of his liking with the first pick, then the Giants take a non-QB, the Jets take a QB, and you have to go through Dorsey to get ahead of the QB-needy Broncos to get the best of the top three passers still available (Josh Allen, Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen in some order). Oh, and Dorsey will have the Broncos (we've seen teams trade up a single spot to get their guy, like the Bears a year ago), Bills, Cardinals, and possibly Ravens to pick from. He's always open for business and the value he gets for that fourth pick will be extreme. "All quarterback roads go through Dorsey now," said one NFC executive. "He's controlling that market now."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/la-ca...ts-colts-trade/

Yea.. Every team is chomping at the bit trying to trade with US for the 4th pick so they can get a Pro bowler in our spot instead of us taking him..

i hope we dont trade the 4th.

thats got another julio jones situation written all over it.

how many players are still on our team from that trade?

They would be trading up to draft a QB.

Jones, Wentz, Ngata, Watkins/Mack.. The list goes on and on..

So who do the Jets want at No. 3?
Posted by Mike Florio on March 17, 2018, 11:48 AM EDT

The Jets have moved to No. 3 not to be at No. 3 but to get player No. 1 on their board. So who is it?

The prevailing reaction in response to the news of the three-spot jump seems to be that the Jets want a quarterback, and that they’re fine with any of three that would be there when they pick. It may not be quite that simple.

The Jets could be hoping to get running back Saquon Barkley at No. 3, with defensive end Nick Chubb being viewed as an acceptable fallback. If just one quarterback is taken in the first two picks, they’re guaranteed to get one of the two top non-quarterbacks. If it’s bang-bang one-two quarterbacks (and don’t be shocked if the Bills now move up to No. 2 with the Giants to get a quarterback), the Jets will get Barkley.

Also, the Browns may now feel more compelled to take a quarterback at No. 1 instead of No. 4, if they think the Jets will take a quarterback. Which sets the stage for two quarterbacks being gone by the time the Jets pick.

Other factors support this possible strategy. First, the Jets signed Josh McCown and Teddy Bridgewater. Bridgewater becomes, potentially, the young quarterback who is evaluated this year with the possibility of becoming the starter in 2019. Second, G.M. Mike Maccagnan and coach Todd Bowles may feel compelled to win now. Drafting and stashing a quarterback with the third overall pick won’t help that cause; drafting an impact player who’ll start Week One at another position will.

Consider the team’s recent experiences. Last year, the Jets took safety Jamal Adams at No. 6, and he became an instant contributor. The year before, they used a second-round pick on quarterback Christian Hackenberg, who has yet to play in a regular-season game.

The idea that the Jets definitely will take a quarterback at No. 3 means that they definitely have decided that there are three of five potential first-round quarterbacks who will become franchise quarterbacks. Given the Hackenberg misadventure, it’s hard to imagine the Jets being that confident about their ability to evaluate incoming quarterbacks.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/17/so-who-do-the-jets-want-at-no-3/

The problem isn't trading down, the problem is taking bad players. If you have the faith in John Dorsey to pick the right player at pick four, you should also have the faith in him to pick the right player at pick fifteen.

I don't have the faith in him (or anyone else in the league) to make the right pick at either spot, so I'd rather have more picks to have more chances at picking the right player.

What if it is to drop down only one spot with Denver? Or if we get a bunch of picks from Buffalo.



We picked the wrong players.

I feel we should and will take a QB at #1. I like Darnold but will be on board with and respect whomever our FO decides to go with. I feel we then should stay at #4 and pick the best player available unless Denver wants to give a kings ransom to move up 1 spot. It's getting more interesting all the time.

denver is fine. moving into the back of the draft is not.

we've had this discussion before. at some point, we have to acknowledge that we aren't good picking players at the back end of the first round if it keeps recurring over and over again no matter who the FO is being ran by.

having a boat load of rookies has never worked on this team. pick the cream of the crop players.

What's Denver looking for at four?

Even if Denver wants to give us an extra seventh round pick we should trade with them. They would be trading up for a player that we don't want.

i understand why people say mayfield and Rosen at 1. especially rosen.

but darnold? the argument can be made that he needs to most work out of any of the top 5 QB's coming out. he's also played QB the least amount of time than any of the top 5 QB's coming out. he also has the most turnovers out of any of the top 5 QB's coming out.

this isn't directed at you, but it just confusing as to why people will say Lamar isn't worth #1 overall, yet the guy who needs the most work out of anybody is.

yeah agreed ... unless Elway dupes us, takes our pick then flips it lol

Trading teams don't usually tell the teams WHO they are picking from everything I have read or heard.

Right, but you can guess at what they are doing. The Broncos would not be trading up one spot, and offering more than they would regularly, for a non-QB.

NYG are taking a QB in my opinion ... no way they decline NYJ's offer for THAT much if you aren't (and you'd still get a GOOD player at 6)

I agree. Or he's hoping that he can get more as the draft gets closer.

I'd have taken the deal if I was not planning on taking a QB.