DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Holocaust Denier Arthur Jones Wins Illinois GOP Congressional Primary, Says He’s Merely an 'American Patriot’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/holocaust-denier-arthur-jones-wins-090432764.html

you know whats sad? i can't even say with certainty that he will lose.

im actually interest in seeing how many votes he will end up receiving come election day.

Now that they managed to elect Trump they think they can run anyone.

Didn't we cover this already?? He basically ran unopposed, because he's going for a district that's pretty much a Democrat Party lock. Nobody else wanted to bother spending on a loss, so this chump ran.

so, i'm interested in seeing how many votes he actually gets.

Probably less than the number he'd get if they misprinted the ballots and put a "D" behind his his name.

Well we can't roll America back to 1945 without the commies and the nazis! MAGA!

Once again, when a majority of registered voters actually show up at the polls to vote, the GOP doesn't stand a chance in hell.

The cowards who let him run unopposed deserve all the msiery their lazy arses get. I say shame to all of them who are not willing to stand up to save their community from a guy like this.

Maybe the community agrees with his stand on things.

Kinda like certain Black communities and Farrakhan.

Why waste the money? He’s not going to win, let him embarrass himself.

Receipts, please.

You can't deny this. Farrakhan has a big following.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the reason he ran unopposed is that Republicans didn't think they could win against pretty much any democrat. so why expend dollars and time on a race that they felt they couldn't win.

Makes sense, but for me, not putting someone up against him in the primary gives the impression they accept his thinking.

That's the scary thing..

It's not at all uncommon for incumbents to run opposed. When I lived in Erie we had a Congressman run unopposed for like 6 years. The Dems didn't even bother to put up a challenger as a Party. Occasionally you might have gotten someone to run against as a Dem, but they wouldn't necessarily receive the endorsement and logistical support because it would be a waste of money.

That's probably what's going on here. It's such a strong Democrat stronghold that the GOP rarely if ever puts up a candidate to run because they can't realistically overcome the numbers. Now this schmuck steps in and takes an opportunity for his 15 minutes of fame because, why the hell not?

I also think some Dawgs here forget that as a candidate when you put the R or D after your name, it isn't dependent upon the Party's endorsement or permission. If 40 ran for office there's nothing to stop him from running as a Democrat. He's just not going to get the support from the Party.

Yet you can't deny the optics on the party.

Of course not.

But you can't deny the optics aren't any different to begin with

I guess if you think of it along party lines, maybe. But one third of all voters are Independents. They are the people who actually decide elections.

When you lay out optics that look bad to them, you really put a hurt on yourself. It wouldn't cost the GOP a fortune to run someone against him in a primary and I think it would go a very long way in at least showing they're not putting their rubber stamp on this joker.

I don't think it would matter to be honest. They'd never get credit for even doing that. I seriously doubt the critics here would even care or take it in to consideration. Don't forget, according to them every one who is associated with the GOP is a racist/bigot/etc by default. No one here is going to say "Look! This Holocaust Denier is trying to run on the GOP ticket. But the GOP is doing the right thing and running someone who isn't a Denier. Mad respect for them" The focus is on the fact the guy put an R behind his name.

I've found Independents to be 1 of 2 types of people: 1) people who actually think about things on a deeper level and aren't going to be swayed by some schmuck running in a race he can't win or b) brain dead idiots waiting until the last possible moment to decide who they are going to vote for because they've never taken a deep look at any issues.

The worst thing for R's or conservatives to do is to try and appease the Left. It'll never happen because they'll constantly move the goal post.

Well if you actually don't believe that letting a neo nazi run unopposed doesn't weigh on voters who could vote either way we just disagree.

That just sounds like a poor excuse not to do the right thing. But there's a lot of that going around these days.

Somehow I never equated opposing a neo nazi as appeasing the left. That's a new twist.

This is actually a pretty fair example of what I'm talking about.

Apparently this is a race basically impossible for a R to win due to the voting demographic.

You assume you are in a position to define "doing the right thing".

If the local GOP says they do not endorse this guy, that's doing the right thing isn't it? Why should they need to do more than that? He's not running unopposed, he's running against a Democrat. But you believe they should run a candidate against him for what reason? Possibly beat him in a primary for a race he's not going to win in the end? Ok, so how much money should they spend? How many candidates should they put up in order to increase the chances of him losing in the Primary? How much is enough to demonstrate that they are "doing the right thing"?

That is what I'm talking about by appeasing the Left. The standard of "doing what is right" constantly shifts and requires more to be done than is reasonably necessary.

I guess if you feel money is more important than opposing a nazi you have a point.

I don't think opposing nazis has changed since WW2. Can you explain the constant shift there?

You're still doing it. Not to be insulting, but do you even realize you're doing it? You've just proved my point. There is no solution that someone such as yourself which would satisfy in your mind that they "did the right thing". They don't need to do anything other than publicly withold their support of him. That's it. Spending money won't change anything, it certainly won't change your mind.


And opposing Nazi's hasn't gone out of style. We still oppose them.. they just go by a new name: the American Left

See, now you've simply resorted to being insulting. We all know who carries the Nazi, skin head and KKK's vote. It isn't the left.

Of course I guess going the extra mile to show the right doesn't support them may hurt them at the poles. I mean there are some good people there, right? lmao

let me know how the next klan rally goes. i guess its a waste of time to oppose nazi's.

coming from a cop, thats a scary message you're sending.

I do find some of his comments disturbing.

Save your breath man, there are people on this board that no matter what, they are right and you are wrong.

Yeah, the GOP not putting up someone to oppose a nazi to represent their party would certainly be the wrong thing to do. In some strange universe.

Oh I know. I rarely try to "win" the discussion. It's more about exposing them. Do you think they just don't care, or are they really that ignorant to the fact that they have alot more in common with the Nazi's than they accuse everyone else of?

I'm not joking either. They may not be pushing for the mass murder of a group of people (yet. it's only a matter of time until their methods of population control evolve beyond killing the unborn) but from top to bottom their methods, their conduct, their proposals when you actually follow through to their impact... it's in lock step with the rise of Nazism. The only thing they are missing is a unique symbol to rally around.

Thanks for noticing. Glad you finally understand.

Just keep rambling on and ignore who nazi's, the KKK and skin heads actually support.

You really have no shame.

I honestly have not answer to that.

eh to be fair, you are only like when its about trump you are typically reasonable when it comes to other aspects and will hear the other side. But when trump is involved, you pretty much shut the door.

That's because on Trump, I AM RIGHT.

As you say Adolf.

Meanwhile the real Hitler is raging in Hell because he was 80 years too early. If he had people like you who were so easily led, willingly duped, and demonstrate a natural affinity for his fascist tactics... he would have been able to realize his dream.

HEY, LETS GO MURDER JEWS

there's a reason why the world fought against that.

and why the right currently has a nazi problem. you get that right? the people being duped are in your crew. facts.

The data is pretty much conclusive, the vast majority of independents vote the same way almost every time in national elections.. they just call themselves independent because it sounds more open-minded and intellectual.

If you say so man.

The lack of critical thought process from many on the Left leaves them to making claims based on fantasy. Everyday you guys employ the famous Nazi tactic of "If you tell a lie often enough..."

You and Pit are doing it now. You guys accuse me of saying it's not important to combat Nazism. That's a completely fabricated lie. But you guys will keep saying it over and over when you know full well my point is that no amount of "fighting Nazis" is ever going to be enough where people like you will admit it is enough.

I suppose living in a fantasy is easier than engaging in real life. Real life requires critical thought processes you guys are too afraid to partake in for fear you'll be exposed.

The GOP doesn't have an actual Nazi problem any more than you guys have a Communist problem. Oh, what's that? Communists? The people responsible for the murder of nearly 100 million people the last century?

the GOP certainly has an alt-right/nationalist problem.

man, i guess charlottesville didn't happen, either?

and besides, you're the one claiming that it isn't important to run against a nazi. not me, not pit.

there's a reason why those kinds of losers vote gop. did you see what happened in tennessee recently with them refusing to hear a bill denouncing white supremacy?

we all know why.

Yeah, because they're too backwoods and inbred to be sophisticated enough to realize it's progressive liberals who are getting to where they want to be.

WTH do you need a bill to denounce white supremacy? Legislative bodies aren't meant for virtue signaling.