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I don't mind watching some women's sports but in a busy world with 1000 things going on all the time... when time gets tight that is the first thing to go. It's not something I have any real commitment to and honestly, I'm not sure what they could do to get me committed to it...

It's more about the state of the game. How can one say that it's hurting the sport when it's the only real program in the entire sport that has any real following? The WNBA has such a lower fan turnout. I went to see Elena Delle Donne in Chicago during her incredible season where she posted a PER of 32 and the stadium was dead compared to a UConn game. It's just hard to think that UConn is killing the sport, when we've alienated our players to places like Yekaterinberg Russia during the season.
I think the best thing for the sport would probably be to lower the rim a foot. Basketball is most exciting when the play is above the rim and the girls should look to emulate that. I think there are still only 10 or 15 players who have ever dunked in a WNBA game. Lowering the rim would help the sport a lot imo.

Who's we? I (as well as most of America) have no interest in the WNBA, and I don't feel the least bit guilty for not spending my money on the product. If the market isn't there for your product or skills, it's time to choose another profession. I didn't "alienate" some poor females to Yekawhatever, they chose to go there. They should use that UConn education on a career that will support them.

Which WNBA team do you have season tickets for?

We = American women's basketball fans/casual observers. Maybe they should jump ship and start a career after training 15+ years for a different one.

Considering the closet women's NBA team is a two hour drive away, I do not have season tickets. Same reason I do not have Cavs season tickets. However, my favorite team is the Lynx. What is yours?

They didn't train for a career, they played a sport and got a free college education. You can't force people to be interested in something that they're not. So you don't financially support the WNBA, but you think "we" should feel guilty because these women choose to play in Russia in the off season?

I don't have a favorite team because I have no interest in the league.

Someone who watches the sport both in person and on TV, buys merch and participates in social media engagement doesn't financially support the sport? You're really off the mark today.

Also if you don't support the sport then why are you grouping yourself into a "we" that means fans?

If the interest in their sport is not large enough to pay them what YOU think they should be paid, why do you think they are entitled to more money?

Just as tne nfl, mlb, nba, nhl, nascar, etc etc etc need to live within their means (and some aren't, mind you. And, it will get worse, I believe)....what gives anyone the right to say the WNBA players aren't getting a fair shake?

These are all my posts in this thread. Where did I say that they are entitled to more money? Where did I say that they aren't getting a fair shake? Why would I say that? I'm glad these women are making money. Most of them make under $100k a season here. I'm glad they're making money. My favorite WNBA player of all time has spoken very highly about her time in Russia and now is a Russian citizen. Now, I'm not particularly happy that Russian oligarchs can shield out the American fan base from the game with ease, but I am glad they are getting paid. I did say that this is a problem with the American fan base/game and gave a possible solution to their problems. You guys are having some strange fantasies about me.

You're the one that grouped me into that when you said, "...we've alienated our players to places like Yekaterinberg Russia during the season." It sounded like you were referring to American society in general, which also would answer your question to Arch...and which was the reason I responded to this in the first place.

There you have it.

If the Browns signed every great player available in free agency, went 15-1 or 16-0 for the next 15 years while winning 13 Super Bowls and that trend would look to continue, the sport would start dying. Why should anyone care about the league outside of Cleveland?

As long as you admit it's hurting the sport and you don't care because you like winning and take pride in that, then I guess we're exactly where I said we are, an unwatchable and predictable product because the players are doing that on purpose. Sure, they are allowed to make that decision on their own, but it's stacking the deck and they know it.

If a player is good enough to make it to the WNBA, they can still get there by going to a Big10 or Pac12 school, but they don't. That's my point. You have 1 super team and everyone else. If you don't live in Connecticut, it's a worthless sport.

You said this:

Sorry, if there isn't enough interest in the league for them to make a "decent" living playing basketball.......then deal with having to go to Russia to play in the off season.

If playing basketball for a living is what they choose, then deal with what they choose. That's all I'm saying.

You made it sound like they should be entitled to make enough in a season to make them comfortable, year round.

1st how did I group you into a conversation between DC and I? I think you're flattering yourself quite a bit. 2nd, you asked me to clarify who "we" is



And I told you.



So why are you still grouping yourself in?

No, you're assuming stuff. It's sad.

I don't know about the WNBA.. I just don't think it's ever going to be much more than it is right now. You could lower the rim, that might help a little..

But college basketball I have found fairly entertaining in the past. I don't need high flying dunks to make it enjoyable..

So I don't think what UConn is doing is impacting the WNBA one way or the other because their stable of great players get distributed around the league.... but it's not doing college basketball any favors.

Generally fans like the rise of a dynasty, then they enjoy watching that dynasty dominate for a few years, then they might spend another couple years hating that dynasty and waiting for them to fail... when you're going on almost 20 years now, people have just given up.

I might be dreaming, but I think the UConn women just went down.

Ridiculous game. Notre Dame played their butts off and continued answering everything the Lady Huskies could give them.

I don't think UConn (offensively) played its best game. And I think Notre Dame played a very good game.

And that girl on Notre Dame was incredible. The girl who hit the big shots toward the end of regulation and in overtime. There's only so much you can do.

So hats off to Notre Dame, incredible game.

Last year really hurt because a play before the game winning shot by Miss State was a total bonehead move.

This one, we did everything we could do. Nothing stupid really. And Notre Dame just outplayed my ladies.

We'll see them next year I guess

what a game between Uconn/ND. ND's guard was fabulous and both teams kept going back and forth like boxers. Sucks that one of them had to lose

2nd year in a row that UCONN women couldn't finish the job. Women's and men's tourneys are proving the best team all season doesn't always win the National Championship.

In a one loss and your done tourney anything can happen. Maybe it's better to be the underdog than the powerhouse favorite, who knows?

I have a feeling that Loyola Chicago is going to beat Michigan tonight.

I hope Loyola wins, but Michigan's length at guard is pretty crazy. Their half court defense, ability to match up on the perimeter, AND ability to hit open shots against Loyola's help side defense is a HUGE difference to what they've seen before

I think Michigan wins pretty comfortably

It was a HORRIBLE game for the sport Pete ... ...

Damm ... i enjoyed the hell out of that game ... good basketball ...

I LOVE watching girls college ... fundamentals are your friend ... no thanks to the WNBA ... i love the college game ...

GO IRISH!!!!!!

Loyola is the best shooting team in college basketball. Their guards are quick and can dripple drive also.

Michigan tends to rely on the 3pt shot too much. If there not falling Michigan will be in trouble. Also, they are the worst free throw shooting team left in the tourney.

Loyola with their speed could get Michigan into foul trouble. It wouldn't surprise me if Loyola made it to the championship game.

Michigan guards are meh. They can’t get to the rim at all

Villanova or Kansas will kill either one of these teams, but it would be fun to see Loyola get a shot.

this loyola-michigan game is really good

Whoever the announcer is that just said, “give me that old time religion”, that was so cheesy. I loved it!

Midnight strikes

Pass the pumpkin pie please.

Villanova made that look easy.

Nova literally looked unbeatable last night

Well congrats to my good friend DeAndre Haynes for making it to the championship game in his first year at Michigan.

Not sure how much they have changed their system but we scouted and game planned for Villanova a couple years ago when we played them while at Kent, so it will be interesting to see what Michigans staff comes up with

Michigan matches up way better against Nova than Kansas did ... they just had no answer for the stretch 4/5's that Nova has. Wagner's versatility is a key to this next one.

I still think Nova has the better team (Brunson is WAY better than Simpson .. basically just more experienced)

I'll say Villanova wins by 10-12

The game Monday night will be really fun if the Michigan team that beat Texas A&M shows up and the Villanova team that beat Kansas last night shows up.

Michigan shot 14 or 24 from 3 that night and last night Nova shot 18 of 40 from 3.

Having 3's raining down up and down the court would be really crazy and very fun to watch.

I do not care who wins. Well, I guess I will be rooting for Michigan Zavier Simpson played school ball close to where I live.

finally game time

These announcers are frickin' cheering for Michigan!

this is over