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Hue would spend all of his time talking for the camera shot and not talking to players.

And your hate is continuing to infest all parts of the board. You've turned into the "Get off my yard" guy.

He has yet to bring up Hue in the NHL playoffs thread...

Why do his posts bother you so much?

Because Pit wants to be the "Get off my yard" guy.. he feels threatened.

Oh it doesn't bother me as much as you may think. I just feel maybe he doesn't realize just how obsessed he actually is about it. When you can't go a day without carrying on about it and it festers every forum on the board, I'm beginning to think my old friend may need help. lmao

And then:



Hmmm.....

Yeah arch, that's it. lmao

Happy Birthday DC.

Thank you.

Its not "get off my yard", dammit. Its either "get off my grass" or "get outta my yard", dammit. Its MY gig, dammit, I invented grouchy old guy on the porch.

Dammit.

Has the team to be featured officially been decided?

not yet. There aren't many teams that are eligible:


1. No playoffs from the previous year
2. No new head coach
3. Can't have been on the show the past 10 years


So that leaves who?

I see Cleveland and SF as the two best options

the eligible teams:

49ers
Browns
Broncos
Chargers
Redskins
Ravens

Redksins, 49ers and Browns have the biggest stories...

Will become official later today: Browns selected to be featured team on this summer’s Hard Knocks, per source.

Bonus Browns, more Mayfield.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/997105585492504576

According to Adam Schefter:

Adam Schefter Twitter Browns to be featured on Hard Knocks

Never thought much insight was gained from all that.. All about staged drama.

So, QB controversy, endless ongoing crap about our "perfect season," recounting # of QB's,
I sincerely hope that 'Hard Knocks' will cover the team as it is. The other junk is admittedly us as well. Just tired of endless criticism of Browns while we ignore some good stuff. The negatives are documented. Break some new and positive ground to match the nonsense you seem ready to write that has happened already.

Perfect for our head coach and defensive coordinator.

I'm still of the opinion that this could be neat but I'd prefer they just leave the Browns alone to work out their issues and become a decent team. The last thing this team needs is any added drama that a show like this can bring...

Ugggh. Wanted nothing to do with this and it made me happy to hear that Dorsey was against it as well.

Browns' John Dorsey doesn't think anything good comes out of Hard Knocks

TIM DANIELS
MAY 2, 2018

Cleveland Browns general manager John Dorsey said Wednesday said he doesn't believe there are positives that could come from being on HBO's Hard Knocks.

Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com passed along comments Dorsey made on ESPN Radio Cleveland with the Browns being one of six teams the NFL could force to appear on the annual documentary series during training camp.

"I don't believe we're on Hard Knocks," he said. "I don't think there's anything good that comes out of Hard Knocks, but we'll see."

The Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos, Los Angeles Chargers, San Francisco 49ers and Washington Redskins are the other teams who fit the NFL's criteria for the show. Interested franchises were also allowed to volunteer to appear.

Dorsey said he wouldn't fight the decision if the league chooses the team, per Cabot.

Cleveland could be an intriguing option given the storylines heading into the 2018 season.

The Browns are coming off an 0-16 campaign but decided to keep head coach Hue Jackson despite a 1-31 record across two years. He'll likely be on the hot seat, though.

Their lack of success landed them the first overall pick in the draft, which led to the selection of polarizing quarterback prospect Baker Mayfield. His style, which lands somewhere between confident and cocky, would be perfect for Hard Knocks.

Cleveland also features wide receivers Josh Gordon and Jarvis Landry, defensive end Myles Garrett, the first overall pick in last year's draft, and this year's fourth pick, cornerback Denzel Ward, for additional star power.

Meanwhile, the Browns acquired quarterback Tyrod Taylor in a trade with the Buffalo. He'll compete with Mayfield for the starting job during camp and the preseason.

So all those elements could make Cleveland a popular choice for the show, though Dorsey doesn't see it helping as the team attempts to finally turn a corner in its rebuilding efforts.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Baker Mayfield vs. Tyrod Taylor will on display this summer for all the world to see.

The Browns have been selected to be on the HBO's popular Hard Knocks this summer, in conjunction with NFL Films. They were chosen from a pool of six finalists including the 49ers, Broncos, Redskins, Chargers, and Ravens, a league source confirmed for cleveland.com.

The 16-time Sports Emmy Award-winning docu-series will include five hour-long episodes from Aug. 7th through Sept. 4th. The official title is Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Cleveland Browns.

The Browns, coming off an 0-16 season, have been asked to be on Hard Knocks several times, but have respectfully asked the NFL and HBO not to choose them for a variety of reasons, including Jackson was coming off a 1-15 season last summer.

He even stated last year that he wanted no part of the behind-the-scenes look at the Browns.

This time, they felt the timing was right. Even Browns GM John Dorsey came around.

Last month, on Browns radio partner ESPN 850, Dorsey said, "I don't think there's anything good that comes out of Hard Knocks, but we'll see.''

Later in that same interview he said, "I can go either way. It is what it is, but I'm OK with it."

Jackson and Browns defensive coordinator Gregg Williams have both been on the popular series, Jackson with the Bengals in 2013 and Williams with the Rams in 2016.

Some storylines the series this summer will be:

1. No. 1 overall pick Mayfield vs. Taylor at QB. Jackson has vowed that Taylor is the starter, but Mayfield insisted, "I'm still going to go out and try to win the job.''

2. Josh Gordon in his first full season back with the club after being suspended for 56 of his first 96 games, and for all of the 2017 offseason. In addition to coming back strong himself, Gordon will have the chance to mentor fourth-round receiver Antonio Callaway

3. Dorsey and his revamped front office in their first season on the job. The crew includes assistant GM Eliot Wolf and Vice President of Player Personnel Alonzo Highsmith.

4. Jackson coming off an 0-16 season -- and his plunge into Lake Erie on June 1st, which will likely be filmed by HBO and featured on the show. Jackson is in his first season without former Browns head of football operations Sashi Brown, who presided over an analytics-heavy front office.

5. 2016 No. 15 overall pick Corey Coleman will be battling for playing time on a receiving corps upgraded with Jarvis Landry and Callaway.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/05/browns_will_be_on_hbos_hard_kn.html

LMAO.. EXACTLY the kind of drama I just said we don't need...

MKC starts the parade. Those stories probably were not the piston driving this choice. Glad Dorsey didna favor it. If we gotta, let's just get it over with. But I would love to give them something they cannot ignore and just must write about.

Haley likes his share of drama, he was endlessly the topic of discussion in Pittsburgh being at bars and starting fights.

The worst part of this, in my view, is that the show will drive QB controversy. I think the team would like nothing more than to play Taylor and let Mayfield acclimate to the NFL. Well, maybe the team would like Mayfield to prove without doubt he's ready day 1, but my point is still that the show wants and needs drama to keep viewers interested, and nothing will provide that better than QB controversy involving the first overall draft pick. The team does not need that.

ugh, here we go

I figured this would happen. Not ideal IMO. But unavoidable.

I was hoping SF would be the pick

There isn't commentary with the show...it is what it is, an inside look at the previous week in Berea. They won't be rehashing anything in the past unless it't the players and/or coaches doing the rehashing.

I expect to see a QB room working together for a common goal, not a controversy. The players that are in that room are the reason why I say that. They are all team oriented players.

Anyone that expects to gain some secret knowledge of the team, or talking heads bashing or discussing the Browns at all will be disappointed.

Hard Knocks is a show that basically recounts the prior week in Berea and that is all..It will have access to coaches and player meetings, practices, etc. I do believe they only show practices that are open to media, so nothing will be revealed.

Entertainment, that is all this is...

I disagree, no drama will be needed to get viewers. I would lay odds this will be the highest rated Hard Knocks to date. The Browns Backers are the largest single group of fans in the NFL. It won't be hard to muster viewership. Outside that group, the hardcore NFL fans watch it no matter who is on there, I have watched every season. Then there will be the other group that wants to see all the new pieces that the Browns have obtained.

It will be a fun experience, imho. I don't think there will be anything negative to come from it.

Just imagine last season with Hard Knocks, it would be the greatest show on TV... people love blood and train wrecks...

I would start by adding some piranas in lake Erie, just in case Hue decides to jump...

HBO Sports, NFL Films and the Cleveland Browns team up for an unfiltered all-access look at what it takes to make it in the National Football League when HARD KNOCKS: TRAINING CAMP WITH THE CLEVELAND BROWNS kicks off its five-episode season this summer. Spotlighting this AFC North franchise that has the hometown region excited as a wave of new young players and veteran acquisitions get acclimated to the team, the 13th edition of the 16-time Sports Emmy® Award-winning series debuts TUESDAY, AUG. 7 (10:00-11:00 p.m. ET/PT). Other hour-long episodes of the first sports-based reality series – and one of the fastest-turnaround programs on TV – debut subsequent Tuesdays at the same time, with encore plays Wednesday nights, culminating in the Sept. 4 season finale.

“HARD KNOCKS returns with 91 football players determined to fulfill their NFL dreams, yet only 53 will succeed,” says Peter Nelson, executive vice president, HBO Sports. “The standard set by this landmark program is for fans to witness the truth as it unfolds: no staging, no second takes, no varnish. We are grateful to the Browns organization for allowing us to spend the summer with the team in what promises to be an intriguing training camp experience.”

“The storylines in Cleveland are compelling, which make the Browns an ideal partner on Hard Knocks,” says NFL Films senior executive Ross Ketover. “We’re looking forward to showing NFL fans around the world what the Haslams, John Dorsey, Hue Jackson and the coaching staff are doing to rebuild the team and reboot one of the most iconic franchises in sports.”

Camera crews will head to Berea, Ohio in the next few weeks to begin filming, with the action heating up in August when the cinema verité show focuses on the daily lives and routines of players and coaches. HARD KNOCKS: TRAINING CAMP WITH THE CLEVELAND BROWNS will chronicle head coach Hue Jackson entering his third season leading the team and an intriguing mix of young emerging stars, established veterans, free agent additions and highly-regarded rookie hopefuls throughout training camp and the preseason. The Browns compete in the hard-nosed AFC North where they maintain an intense rivalry with each of their opponents and have their sights set on ascending in the standings. Each week, viewers will get an inside look as players experience the daily rigors of an NFL training camp. Cameras will document hours of conditioning practices and meetings, while chronicling players as they compete for a roster spot and bond off the field.

“NFL Films has always been exceptional at bringing fans closer to the game and they do an outstanding job with every show they produce, including HBO’s Hard Knocks,” said Cleveland Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam. “We have been asked multiple times about being featured on Hard Knocks, and we really felt like it was our turn this year and the timing was right. We want to be great partners in this league, and we also recognize Hard Knocks gives fans a special opportunity to learn more about our team and players. Organizationally, we are confident about where we are headed, but we have a lot of work to do in order for this franchise to earn the respect of our fans on the field. We understand winning is ultimately most important to our fans. We’re looking forward to partnering with HBO and NFL Films to show how our team is working hard at training camp to prepare for the 2018 season.”

“I’ve been a part of Hard Knocks and when you experience it first hand, you come to appreciate the inside look it really gives fans,” said head coach Hue Jackson. “We are excited about what we are building within our organization and feel good about the progress we have made this offseason. Being able to bring our fans in so they can get to know our players and our organization in a different way will be a huge positive for us. I want people to see how much our players and coaches care, how hard they work and how badly they want to win for Cleveland. This will be a great opportunity for our team.”

“Like many, I was reluctant about being the featured team on Hard Knocks but once we sat down and talked about it as an organization, I feel a lot better and understand why the time is right,” said general manager John Dorsey. “Hue and I both feel like this team is in a good place and that we are in the process of building something that will lead to success. Being a part of Hard Knocks will give our fans the opportunity to see how passionate the people in our building are about winning and how excited we are about getting to work and preparing for the 2018 season.”

A 30-person NFL Films crew will be in Browns training camp at team headquarters in Berea, Ohio shooting more than 2,000 hours of footage over the course of the series. Camera and sound crews will have unencumbered access to players’ and coaches’ meeting rooms, training rooms, living quarters and practice fields.

No other sports reality series can match the production excellence, critical acclaim, awards and audience numbers posted by HARD KNOCKS, which has produced 62 memorable episodes and one anniversary special in its first 12 seasons. Episodes have averaged 3.9 million viewers over the past four seasons.

Winner of 16 Sports Emmy® Awards to date, HARD KNOCKS launched with the Baltimore Ravens in 2001, followed by the Dallas Cowboys in 2002, and resumed in 2007 with the Kansas City Chiefs, subsequently spotlighting the Cowboys (2008), Cincinnati Bengals (2009), New York Jets (2010), Miami Dolphins (2012), Bengals (2013), Atlanta Falcons (2014), Houston Texans (2015) and Los Angeles Rams (2016). The 2017 edition chronicled the NFC South Tampa Bay Buccaneers and captured the Sports Emmy® for Outstanding Serialized Documentary. HARD KNOCKS has won a Sports Emmy® every year it has aired since 2008.

Six of the last eight teams featured on HARD KNOCKS have equaled or improved their win-loss record in the regular season. Teams who have recently earned playoff berths immediately following their appearance on HARD KNOCKS include the Bengals (2009, 2013), Jets (2010) and Houston Texans (2015).

The Washington Post wrote, “Turning football players into people is what HBO’s Hard Knocks series does so well. The massive scope, meticulous editing and time-hopping special effects that highlight a production under massive time constraints are all impressive, but it’s the film crew’s access to NFL players that makes the program special.” New York’s Daily News termed it “the gold standard of sports reality programming,” while espnW wrote, “The return of the NFL season also means the return of one of the best shows on television, ‘Hard Knocks.’ This [is a] rare look at how any given moment can be the end of a season or even a career.”

Winner of 127 Sports Emmy® Awards, NFL Films remains a gold standard in sports television, providing unprecedented access to and legendary storytelling about the sport of professional football. NFL Films is a part of NFL Media, the owned and operated media division of the National Football League, which comprises NFL Network, NFL Films, NFL.com, NFL Now, NFL Mobile from Verizon and NFL RedZone.

HARD KNOCKS: TRAINING CAMP WITH THE CLEVELAND BROWNS will be narrated by Liev Schreiber. 2018 will mark the 12th season with Liev voicing the NFL weekly training camp series.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...medium=referral

https://www.hbo.com/hard-knocks

already on the official site

2017 vs. 2018 is night and day for the Cleveland Browns. There are experienced people in every aspect of the organization now. Hue is the least experienced on the team, only having 3 years of HC experience.

Gregg Williams 18 years as a DC, 2017 same
Todd Haley 8 years as a OC, 2017 Dual role HC, Hue as OC 5 years, but 4 different places
Amos Jones 8 years as a STC, 2017 had an experienced STC
Maybe most importantly, John Dorsey replaced 2nd year Sashi Brown, his 5 years as GM at Green Bay and Kansas City brought much needed help to filling the roles needed to form a sustainable team that can compete.

What they lacked in veteran leadership in 2017 has been replaced with a multitude of veterans in 2018. None more important than the QB room.

QB room: 2017-combined experience 2 years, 8 starts (that's THREE QBs), 2018 has 15 years of experience with 60 NFL starts.

This is a different team...

Awesome news. I like hard knocks except for showing the guys getting axed. That's just poor taste. I don't need to see a kids reaction when he sees all his hopes n dreams crushed. The rest is good stuff.

Love this. Can’t wait to watch.

Hopefully we get to see Gregg ripping into people and etc. Going have to gain access to HBO now, but I want to see this.

heck yeah, I'm excited!

Things that are not fair!! I don't have HBO!!