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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. good point
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I don't know what I'm so scared of about Mayfield.
1. He's not Johnny.
2. He is PFF's #1 QB in this draft, and he hits all the benchmarks.
3. He actually passes Bill Parcel's criteria for drafting a QB.
4. He's got the best stats of all the QB's.
5. He played 4 years and got better every year.
6. He looks to be a pocket passer first.
7. He seemed intelligent at the whiteboard.
8. He doesn't seem to stare down receivers.
9. He doesn't seem to have an injury history.
10. His teammates seem to love him. One even said "I'd follow that guy anywhere".
So why does he scare me? It's his height. And he was a two-time walk on. And his hands are small.
None of this crap should bother me at all! It's the sour taste Manziel left on me that sours me on Mayfield, just because of the height. But I know they're not the same guy. I'm just nervous.
I feel like I'm going to have to sell myself on this pick like I always do, and I don't want to have to do that. I want to just pick the guy who I want so that I don't have to talk myself into it. Or roll my eyes at MKC's fluff QB stories come training camp. Dude. I'm going to frame that and put it on EVERY wall in my house, including the garage and read it every time I see it. I'm gonna need it to calm myself down if we go MAYFIELD.
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But I'm NOT believing it until I hear it from Goodells mouth.
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Aaron Rodgers was 22 and he sat for 2 years.
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the biggest thing that scares me, again, is the system he ran in college. now, he absolutely excelled in the system, and he can only play the scheme which is handed to him, so that aint his fault.
but it is a concern with wondering if he can actually make the transition to the nfl. You nailed it. Even though it isn't his fault, it is a consideration. He has not had to throw into NFL-sized windows. He has not had to throw receivers open. Can he do it? No one knows. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. That is scary.
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Thats not why age matters to me ... its the fact one of them spent 5 years in college and the other one only spent 3 years in college ... thats a HUGE TWO YEARS ... HUGE ...
How much better would Sam be if he spent 2 more years in college ...
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if we take Baker I'm not sure I can do it anymore I agree this could be the straw that breaks the camels back. Having the #1 overall pick and taking a joke of a QB with real franchise type QB's on the board might be more than I can take. I think people will come around if the Browns take Mayfield, after he starts putting up touchdowns and winning games, this Fall. Highest Ceiling, BPA. God I hope they take him.
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But I'm NOT believing it until I hear it from Goodells mouth. Then I am going to vomit.
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I'm wondering, does Mayfield = Manziel?
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I think people will come around if the Browns take Mayfield, after he starts putting up touchdowns and winning games, this Fall.
Highest Ceiling, BPA. God I hope they take him. I'm with you.... I don't think he's going to sit long if at all. We beat Pittsburgh first week and anyone who "left" will come back. Although it almost sounds like people would rather lose with Darnold than win with Baker...
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I don't have a vomit bucket and I wont need one.. NO WAY in this UNIVERSE the Browns take Mayfield. The risks are WAY to high. Just to be mentioned in the same breath as Johnny Football ( not fair ) is asking for a HUGE fan and media backlash. A 6 ft Spread type QB with an attitude, is NOT Jimmy or Dee's face of the franchise with Darnold or Rosen sitting there. NOT GONNA HAPPEN !
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j/c:
Mel Kiper's final mock has also changed and has Cleveland taking Mayfield.
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I think people will come around if the Browns take Mayfield, after he starts putting up touchdowns and winning games, this Fall.
Highest Ceiling, BPA. God I hope they take him. I'm with you.... I don't think he's going to sit long if at all. We beat Pittsburgh first week and anyone who "left" will come back. Although it almost sounds like people would rather lose with Darnold than win with Baker... Insinuating this is dumb. We're all still here, holding our breaths over this draft despite all of the losing. We're all fans. If we win, everyone will be happy. Just because everyone we picked before sucked doesn't mean we wouldn't be happy if we had won.
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Maybe he's not going to sit.
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Maybe he's not going to sit. Would make the third rounder we gave up for TT a little harder to swallow, no?
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Maybe he's not going to sit. Would make the third rounder we gave up for TT a little harder to swallow, no? Yes. Some might argue that having him as a failsafe is worth it though.
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All the stats show Mayfield to be the best QB in the draft. The analytic guys and (supposedly Wolf and Highsmith) are most likely pushing for him. If Mayfield is the pick, and all signs are pointing to it being him, then I am just proud of Dorsey for overlooking the arbitrary height requirements that have been put on QBs. He’s taking who he feels is the best player. Let’s be real, if Mayfield is two inches taller he’d be a near slam dunk first overall pick. I'd say that rather the stats say that Mayfield has the best stats of all the QBs. College doesn't have anything resembling parity, so the stats aren't really apples to apples. He could end up the best QB, but it won't be as simple as because he had the best stats.
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Maybe he's not going to sit. Would make the third rounder we gave up for TT a little harder to swallow, no? Yes. Some might argue that having him as a failsafe is worth it though. No doubt. I just think we could have gotten TT for less consdering it was obvious the Bills no longer had him in their plans. But TT as a back up is not bad thing in itself.
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The risks are WAY to high. Actually, Mayfield has the lowest risk of all the quarterbacks.
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if we start our rookie QB week 1, and it aint due to injury, then everybody needs to be fired.
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j/c: It's my feeling, barring any unexpected new info or proposals surfacing & based off multiple conversations I've had on & off the record up through the crack of dawn this am, that the #Browns have settled on Okla QB Baker Mayfield for the #1 pick in the #NFL Draft tonight at 8pm.
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Insinuating this is dumb. We're all still here, holding our breaths over this draft despite all of the losing. We're all fans.
If we win, everyone will be happy. Just because everyone we picked before sucked doesn't mean we wouldn't be happy if we had won.
This is fair. But it sounds like a lot of people puking. Some say this is the straw that broke the camel's back. I have friends texting me they're done. Granted the pick hasn't been made...
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It's my feeling, barring any unexpected new info or proposals surfacing & based off multiple conversations I've had on & off the record up through the crack of dawn this am, that the #Browns have settled on Okla QB Baker Mayfield for the #1 pick in the #NFL Draft tonight at 8pm. It's a done deal. Everyone is reporting it at this point and it makes sense. The timeline fits. The reports were that John Dorsey was going to let the staff know Wednesday night, last night Baker Mayfield's name started popping up more and more. This morning everyone is switching their mocks to show Baker Mayfield as the pick and all the insiders are saying it's Baker Mayfield.
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It's my feeling, barring any unexpected new info or proposals surfacing & based off multiple conversations I've had on & off the record up through the crack of dawn this am, that the #Browns have settled on Okla QB Baker Mayfield for the #1 pick in the #NFL Draft tonight at 8pm. It's a done deal. Everyone is reporting it at this point and it makes sense. The timeline fits. The reports were that John Dorsey was going to let the staff know Wednesday night, last night Baker Mayfield's name started popping up more and more. This morning everyone is switching their mocks to show Baker Mayfield as the pick and all the insiders are saying it's Baker Mayfield. Yes, I tend to agree with this reasoning.
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Is there anyone more happy that devicedawg right now?
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Side note: Isn't Mayfield not even attending the draft?
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Side note: Isn't Mayfield not even attending the draft? He is not. Just like Myles Garrett and Joe Thomas. A pattern!
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Is there anyone more happy that devicedawg right now? I'm happy for him, if this ends up being true. A lot of people unnecessarily gave him hell for his opinion.
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Setting a 19 or 20 year old a year or two is one thing. Setting a 23 year old that long is another.
I don't think he or anyone else is drafted to start day one. Maybe he's not going to sit. Kizer did not sit, neither did Cody Kessler, I won't believe it until I hear it from Goodells mouth also, and Because it's Cleveland, I still won't feel safe until the 1st is over because of a phillip Rivers take him then trade him type of scenario. I think I should just take a deep breath, breath in to a paper bag, and, if I don't watch, it is stil going to be the same result tomorrow, whether I watch or not.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Is there anyone more happy that devicedawg right now? I'm happy for him, if this ends up being true. A lot of people unnecessarily gave him hell for his opinion. I blocked him because I couldn't stand the incessant Baker Mayfield talk! (I just unblocked him.)
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if we start our rookie QB week 1, and it aint due to injury, then everybody needs to be fired. Seems this franchise gets what it deserves.
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if we start our rookie QB week 1, and it aint due to injury, then everybody needs to be fired. I think Mayfield has a legitimate chance to beat out Tyrod as the starting quarterback... And based on his past, I think he does it. No one should be fired for that.
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What will bother me most if the take Mayfield is this, remembering Johnny walking across the stage and looking like a midget next to Goodell. That will be exactly the same tonight if they take Mayfield. Yes, there are a a few(very few) quarterbacks that have made it at the professional level that are this short. What are the odds the BROWNS get LUCKY enough to pick the one guy in a thousand that can succeed at that stature and height? They should make the SAFE choice and choose either Darnold, or Rosen. But it's their ass on the line. If they take Mayfield then they live and die by him. He BETTER be the next Brett Favre. He BETTER not screw up off the field. One TINY litte misstep and EVERYONE is fired. There is ZERO wiggle room with a Mayfield pick. You take the shortest QB in the draft. The shortest and smallest QB in our division... you BETTER be right! He better stay healthy too. In my minds eye I see him getting killled repeatedly here in Cleveland where we get QB's killed at a FAR higher rate than any other team.
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Is there anyone more happy that devicedawg right now? I'm happy for him, if this ends up being true. A lot of people unnecessarily gave him hell for his opinion. I blocked him because I couldn't stand the incessant Baker Mayfield talk! (I just unblocked him.) But now it might REALLY pick up! 
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I blocked him because I couldn't stand the incessant Baker Mayfield talk!
(I just unblocked him.)
How rude! 
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Is there anyone more happy that devicedawg right now? I'm happy for him, if this ends up being true. A lot of people unnecessarily gave him hell for his opinion. I blocked him because I couldn't stand the incessant Baker Mayfield talk! (I just unblocked him.) But now it might REALLY pick up! At least it'll be about a player that'll be on our team. Before I thought it was just noise.
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if we start our rookie QB week 1, and it aint due to injury, then everybody needs to be fired. I think Mayfield has a legitimate chance to beat out Tyrod as the starting quarterback... And based on his past, I think he does it. No one should be fired for that. Sure, we should just cut Tyrod right now... Mayfield is the greatest QB to ever lacethem up... *snicker* Fine, but he BETTER be. He BETTER be the next Brett Favre. Or EVERYONE is fired. BET on THAT. They screw this up by taking the smallest QB in our division and he gets hurt, or sucks? Fire them all immediately. Our offense will have to be straight out of the college game. Mayfield will have to be in shotgun every snap. That means we can't run the ball and THAT means every team in the league will be blitzing left right and center. Mayfield will be getting hit early and often. So we will see if a guy that small can take getting blasted over and over and over again. He better hold up to it.
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