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If it is Mayfield, we need to remember he could not out run those cops chasing him and tackled him to the ground.

The pick hasn't been made and if it does in fact become Mayfield, it's not an "I told you so" moment, I just want the best quarterback for my team. And he's certainly that...

My emotions will be my death if we don't draft him now. I was bummed the last couple days when it seemed as though it was Darnold, but I would have been fine with that pick as well. This one is just better.


I know we vetted all the quarterbacks and had serious consideration for other quarterbacks, but I seriously couldn't be the only person in the universe that put two and two together when we hired Mccloughan?

mayfield isn't beating out Tyrod.

Mac? Didn't you post this same exact post about 2 and a half months ago? Kudos to you if you were to end up being right that early.

Oh and if he screws up one TINY little bit off the field? He's done and so is this regime. This fanbase will crucify them for bringing us another Johnny. Fair or not, he has NO wiggle room to screw around. He better be first in last out every day of his career. He better throw his phone out the window tonight and NEVER tweet or post to Instagram. His entire life better be Cleveland Browns football. Or it's everyones ass! Dorsey will just be another bad memory we all sigh at...

We'll see.

I'm 100% prepared for Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.
Darnold would have me feeling fine.
Rosen would leave me a tad bit doubtful.
Mayfield would have me feeling VERY doubtful and a bit terrified.

I was so disgusted with the product we had on the field last year that I walked away from the team for a few weeks. I survived, and know I can do it again.

i do have to laugh at everybody trying to downplay the incident.

if that would've been another player, yall would've crucified him and said no way should we draft a guy with off the field problems.

i like baker too, but the same half ass excuses being made for him were the same ones being made for manziel.

its also hilarious, because i've seen what half of yall say in these cop threads about people running from the cops.

but because it's mayfield...

You say he's the best quarterback? So that means we DON'T have to build an offense JUST for him? I can expect him to play under center, to stay in the pocket and throw from there? He's going to THROW for us, not run around getting HURT? Great. But if we have to go to a college offense and change everthing just to suit ONE player then he wasn't the best.

Is there a new rule that says teams can't run out of the shotgun?

There is basically no difference in yards per carry when running out of the shotgun versus running from under center. Some players are better at one, some players are better at the other. For example, last year Duke Johnson, currently our starting running back, had 5.2 yards per carry out of the shotgun and 2.7 yards per carry from under center.

I ain't giving him a pass. I would not take him, mainly because of that. I think he is immature.

I like Sam Darnold but whomever our FO picks as our future QB I will support him. Any one of the top 5 QB's in this draft has a chance to be good and I'm sure John Dorsey knows more about drafting a QB than I do. Looking forward to 8:00 PM with much anticipation.

Here are all the SI Baker Mayfield stories, the earliest one is at the bottom:

https://www.si.com/column/Baker+Mayfield:+The+Scouting+Report

I'm still saying it's Sam Darnold. If it isn't so be it. I'll hope Baker Boy will shine...

They said RBS today that Hue was shown the board the last night. 12 hours later, all these "reports" start to come out about Mayfield, and our board. We know Hue loves a good leak.

Im thinking Dorsey was setting No Clue Hue up, and showed him a fake board. Darnold at 1.

The analytics guys love Baker, PFF has had him QB1 the entire time.

Running out of the gun is harder. The back has to stand and WAIT for the QB to get the ball, then take the time to hand it to him, THEN he can take off. Under center the back can already be RUNNING when the QB hands him the ball. In the NFL that extra second means something.

Since Duke Johnson was so awesome out of the gun last year, lets hand him the ball 25+ times a game this year, ALL out of the gun. He'll have 2000 yards rushing... right? No need for a Barkley when Duke is SO great



Name the NFL team that has lead the league in rushing running out of the gun every down? For that matter name the NFL team that has been in the gun every single down in a season... But we know better. We are the Cleveland Browns. We can do what no other team has. We can choose a short little QB and turn him into one of the VERY few that succeed at that height. Because we are SO great at developing QB's we can afford to roll the dice on our franchise QB. Sure. Mayfield will be awesome because EVERY QB barely six feet tall succeeds. We can run a straight up college system where we are in the gun every stinking down because we are SO much better than all the other teams...

If Mayfield is so damned good then he can play in OUR system. He can play IN the pocket and throw from there. He can get up under center and succeed. If he can't then the pick was a bad one and he sucks.

Everyone talks about Johnny being a bust because of the off field stuff. What makes you so certain he would have been any good even if he WAS a first in last out guy with no off field problems? It is EXTREMELY rare a guy that small makes it. MOST don't. So why so certain he would make it here in Cleveland of all places?

Its always been between Darnold and Mayfield, I just think its Darnold unless he looked like a moron when they put him infront of the board,.

I think SpiritBro77 thinks it is still 1988.

He ran like a 4.9 40, he's going to get killed if he runs. And since he can't see over the line... Yeah, this gonna be great.

Carlos Hyde was better running out of the gun then when QB took snap from under center.

Welcome back! (And back at it, I see.)

If it is Mayfield, I'll be really worried about the QB position leading into TC and the season... but I'll still root for him and the Browns.

I doubt Mayfield is going to pan out, but I'll still hope he does.

If it is Baker that's fine. At least there are no accuracy issues with him.

By Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com --

When listening to John Dorsey describe what he is looking for in a quarterback, the first word he said was "win." He also said "feet" and "accuracy" are important. Those three words sum up Oklahoma's Baker Mayfield as a prospect.

He went 34-6 as a starter for the Sooners, leading the team to three Big 12 titles and two appearances in the College Football Playoffs. He moves well to create second-chance plays and his accuracy downfield would have worked in any conference.

So all the recent Mayfield-to-Cleveland rumors shouldn't be a surprise.

Bottom line on Mayfield as a prospect, after breaking down his film, you simply run out of reasons why he can't thrive in the NFL. We'll soon find out, likely with Mayfield as a member of the Browns.

Updated: 12:45 p.m. ET, April 26

1. Cleveland Browns: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma (6-0, 214, 4.75)

All of the noise coming out of Berea are pointed toward the Browns drafting Mayfield, which wouldn't be a surprise. General manager John Dorsey was in Green Bay during Brett Favre's tenure as the Packers' quarterback and Mayfield has the same competitive make-up.

2. New York Giants: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (6-0, 233, 4.40)

General manager Dave Gettleman is looking for "impact" with this pick and has a draft history of targeting skill players on offense and front-seven disruptors. Penn State's Saquon Barkley and NC State's Bradley Chubb are both in play with this pick.

3. New York Jets: Sam Darnold, QB, USC (6-3, 221, 4.85)

When the Jets traded up to the No. 3 pick from No. 6, I doubt they anticipated Darnold being available with this pick. But it looks much more possible now, giving New York a legitimate long-term answer at the position.

COMPARE MOCKS: Rob Rang's FINAL mock
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4. Cleveland Browns: Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State (6-4, 269, 4.65)
The most important position on the roster is quarterback, which Cleveland will address at No. 1. The second-most important position? The position that gets after the quarterback. And Chubb is the best pass rusher in the draft.

https://www.themaven.net/nfldraftscout/m...lyqqdNQ/?full=1

The only thing Johnny and Baker have in common is being drafted by the Browns.*

Off the field they aren't similar. On the field they aren't similar. They aren't the same size. They don't even play the game the same way.

Eli was arrested in college and he turned out all right. Dak Prescott was arrested for DUI prior to the draft. Rivers was said to be immature and had on field antics... yet 2 are hall of famers and 1 is a promising young quarterback.


*Assuming Baker is the guy

j/c:

Dane Bruegler also changed his final mock draft to Mayfield. If it doesn't go down this way, Dorsey will have punked the entire NFL world.

Baker Mayfield seems to be the marriage of analytics and old school scouting methods.

I'm not betting against it, would you?

Which would be pretty impressive.

i would. and i like baker.

but i think no matter what, they are starting tyrod week one, barring injury.

To be fair, hindsight is 20/20 about johnny, we knew he drank, but we had no idea come draft day to the extent of his issues with alcohol and drugs.

The difference between Johnny and Baker, Johnny wanted to famous and was using football to become famous. Baker wants to a football player to that gets famous.

I agree, unless whoever we take is a freak in camp ala R.Wilson, but I would put that chance at about .05%