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Jcamm #1443227 04/26/18 04:38 PM
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So.... the odds are now in favor of us taking a kid who..... ran from the cops..... beaned an opposing player in the head with the football during pre game warm ups and was grabbing himself in the crotch during a game.

Only in Cleveland.


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Dorsey has not had a problem drafting players with concerns off the field.


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I just listed three things he's done that would ALL land him an NFL suspension. Now if people want to act like he's going to be some shiny new toy and ignore his lack of self control that would be worthy of being suspended in the NFL, you go ahead and do that.


Take a READING lesson.

I ADDED to your comments.

I see Franchise DISASTER if we take this twit.

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If the first pick is not Darnold or Barkley, Dorsey should take the next flight out of town.

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Vegas odds on Mayfield went from like +1600 to -600 in the last hour.

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Should have put that $100 down that I was thinking about doing.


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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I know, and I don't care.

Too many red flags with Baker.

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I'll say it again, I hope we take Darnold #1. He has the skills, size with a lot of upside and no baggage or injury concerns. The fumbling problem can be improved. He has leadership traits and seems to love the game. JMO

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Beating out JonnyFF? That is a tall order. Crazy night coming to Berea.


Nothing about Johnny is tall.


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I guess it is about time to start drinking.

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I hope he plants a browns flag in the middle of ketchup stadium!

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I'll say it again, I hope we take Darnold #1. He has the skills, size with a lot of upside and no baggage or injury concerns. The fumbling problem can be improved. He has leadership traits and seems to love the game. JMO


He didn't look good under pressure against Ohio State, that's the one the few games I've seen of him and he looked like a huge mess.


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I'm not excited about Mayfield at #1, but if he's the guy, he's the guy and I'll support him and the team. What I like most about the kid is he has a fire and love for the game that might be unmatched in the draft (at least from all I've seen and read about all the players. If he ends up a Brown, I pray he's more Brees than Manziel.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
I know, and I don't care.

Too many red flags with Baker.


What are those red flags?


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I hope he plants a browns flag in the middle of ketchup stadium!

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Well he may want to make sure it's actually grass and not turf this time. It looks kind of dumb trying to plant a flag in turf. lol


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Lol smile ... I will send him one of these

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I can't do that from my phone it seems...

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Originally Posted By: kwhip
Crumbles under pressure. Did you see Rex Ryan's film a little bit ago on NFL Live? UGLY.


Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.

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Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.


In a conference where the spread offense rules, the WRs run free across the middle, and defense is an afterthought. Colt McCoy averaged 70.3 Completion Pct in the Big 12.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
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Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.


In a conference where the spread offense rules, the WRs run free across the middle, and defense is an afterthought. Colt McCoy averaged 70.3 Completion Pct in the Big 12.


When pressured. When pressured.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.


In a conference where the spread offense rules, the WRs run free across the middle, and defense is an afterthought. Colt McCoy averaged 70.3 Completion Pct in the Big 12.


When pressured. When pressured.


Sorry, here is the correct stat:


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We will draft Darnold #1 ... JMHO thumbsup


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And they're STILL running wide open. So?

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Originally Posted By: kwhip
And they're STILL running wide open. So?


It's hard to make good plays when you are under pressure. That is my only point.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.


In a conference where the spread offense rules, the WRs run free across the middle, and defense is an afterthought. Colt McCoy averaged 70.3 Completion Pct in the Big 12.


When pressured. When pressured.


Colt McCoy never faced pressure? His shoulder didn't injure itself, did it?

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Originally Posted By: Dave
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Baker Mayfield had the highest completion percentage of all the QBs when faced with pressure.


In a conference where the spread offense rules, the WRs run free across the middle, and defense is an afterthought. Colt McCoy averaged 70.3 Completion Pct in the Big 12.


When pressured. When pressured.


Colt McCoy never faced pressure? His shoulder didn't injure itself, did it?


I don't know what Colt McCoy's stats were when he was pressured.

My response was to a poster saying Baker Mayfield is not good under pressure. My only point was that Baker Mayfield has good stats when pressured.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
We will draft Darnold #1 ... JMHO thumbsup


We will draft Somebody #1... JMHO

(8:00, I thought this started at 7:00, let's get this overwith already.)


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I don't know what Colt McCoy's stats were when he was pressured.


Me neither, but at 70.3% overall, I'm guessing they were pretty good. In other words, so what?

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Been on the baker train for a good while.

Like I have said 2-3 times before, if Baker was 6"3, the only QB discussion would be about who was going after him.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Been on the baker train for a good while.

Like I have said 2-3 times before, if Baker was 6"3, the only QB discussion would be about who was going after him.



I like his game it's the other things that give me pause, I know he isn't Johnny but I just can't shake that experience, if we take him I hope he turns out to be a good citizen as much as the player I know he can be ...


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I'd bet plenty that he's expected to NOT be so impulsive and stupid.

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Been on the baker train for a good while.

Like I have said 2-3 times before, if Baker was 6"3, the only QB discussion would be about who was going after him.



I like his game it's the other things that give me pause, I know he isn't Johnny but I just can't shake that experience, if we take him I hope he turns out to be a good citizen as much as the player I know he can be ...



I don't get the Johnny comparisons except they were short by NFL norms..


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He is my 3rd choice behind Rosen and Darnold. I'm no expert so I will sit and wait to see how he turns out.


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Really Ballpeen, Getting tackled by the cops, grabbing his crotch on national TV, I'm not saying he's even close to Johnny but those things bring back some bad memories. Just Sayin'


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Big question is has he grown? I know a few guys who you'd swear we're still in high school! He's got energy and confidence and brashness but I just want to know if he can focus it like a laser on football.

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Manziel was a running QB with a drug problem that relied too much on instinct in college and couldn't get that to work in the pros. Mayfield is supposedly the smartest whiteboard QB in the draft, with possibly the best accuracy. Two of the best attributes you look for in a QB. His maturity is questionably, but Manziel he's not.

All that said, I might turn out to have the best Browns source of any reporter! Called this days ago! grin

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1438373/re-sam-darnold-chapter-3#Post1438373

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Hue needs his Pied Piper!


At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Ditto, some posters state ALL college guys get drunk, lots get tackled by cops...our GM claims the media has made him bad.....NO his stupid actions have made lots of us question whether to support him as the "Face on the Franchise". How he can be considered number one pick amazes me. Please pick Darnold and let him grow into great QB....GO Browns!!!!


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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Really Ballpeen, Getting tackled by the cops, grabbing his crotch on national TV, I'm not saying he's even close to Johnny but those things bring back some bad memories. Just Sayin'




Ok, so your're saying it isn't even close.


I am not happy with the deal with the police, but the other stuff? Heck, I could see myself doing that when I was 22.



You did see how the game started didn't you?


Here, watch this.



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But he's not 6-3, is he? So how is it helpful or meaningful to speculate on if he were. He's a relative midget in a league of giants. He's slower than a lot of D-Linemen in the NFL. But somehow, some way, guys here seem to think he's the next Drew Brees or Russell Wilson. Even though I don't equate him with Manziel, I think Mayfield is a lot closer to Johnny than he is Drew or Russell.

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