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Hurst and Guice would be awesome to me.

Will Hernandez

more guards ...just what we need

I would be running up with the card for Landry at this point in time.

went to fanspeak and did a mock draft...thoughts?

Browns get long term center, homerun threat to replace Coleman/Gordon in 2019, and RB plus some depth across the board

1: R1P1
QB BAKER MAYFIELD
OKLAHOMA
4: R1P4
CB DENZEL WARD
OHIO STATE
33: R2P1
C JAMES DANIELS
IOWA
35: R2P3
WR D.J. CHARK
LSU
64: R2P32
RB NICK CHUBB
GEORGIA
114: R4P14
EDGE DUKE EJIOFOR
WAKE FOREST
150: R5P13
CB TONY BROWN
ALABAMA
175: R6P1
S DESHON ELLIOTT
TEXAS
188: R6P14
DL BREELAND SPEAKS
OLE MISS

Mike Silver reported the Browns loved Penny and would have taken him at 33 if not for Seattle selecting him at 27.

I wouldn't be too sure the Browns are against adding a RB. Hyde has an out at 1 year - $5.5M and Duke Johnson is off contract.

So, essentially, the Browns have two running backs who could both realistically be in the final year of their contract.

Guice might be hard to pass up.

well, we could go a long way to help our offense IF we are okay with Guice and Sutton

Oof. Replace Sutton with Anthony Miller and I can get down with that for sure.

If I'm drafting a receiver, that's who I want in the early 2nd

Why would it matter to a team that thinks of running the football as an afterthought? If it were me I would RUN to the podium and take Guice with the first pick in the second. They won't. Because running the ball isn't important to them. It's just something they HAVE to do to keep the D honest. They will be content with what we have at the moment. If we take a RB it will be late and he will be a ham and egger.

I've heard there's questions about Guice's maturity and character. That and he supposedly lied about NFL Executives Questions.


I don't want another Trent Richardson.

If those concerns aren't valid, I'm all for the guy. I think he's probably the best pure runner in the draft. He runs with power and he's got shiftiness. He runs great up the middle and goes north to south. He'd certainly be a great compliment to Duke Johnson. Like a rich man's Carlos Hyde. Guice reminds me a bit of Jamal Lewis.

But I want a professional, not some guy we have to babysit

What's this Twitter to Guice about the Browns and a Promise?

Twitter won't load for me.

Anyone see it?

Couple weapons?

Guice
Sutton or Chark?

Protection for Gordon and Coleman?

Hurst and Landry still there.

No i'm not sure what this means?

This

Linebacker

If Browns take Harold Landry and Guice to start the 2nd, it's a wrap. They're back

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/989714129270312960

I thought Harold Landry was drafted already....

Depending on their physicals:
Maurice Hurst
Harold Landry

I'm good with Landry and Guice, pending health

Guice ... Oliver ....

U want an IMPROVED secondary ... there it is ... we take a GIGANTIC LEAP there ...

Ward/Oliver for the next 4 years at least .... although I will add Landry at this point makes a lot more sense than Chubb at 4 did to me .....

Replace Oliver w/ Josh Jackson

OK ... I could live with that ...

Or like i added after u replied ... im a lot more open to Landry here for the pass rush than I was for Chubb at #4 ...

You guys are on to something... I like both Oliver and Jackson... Who would have thought they'd both be there.

We might pass on Guice and go CB/DL...

Same. I've liked Landry 2016 tape better then Chubb 2016-2017 tape..

I would love Hurst though

Lamar was taken #32 by Balt.

Might be able to get Nick Chubb at 64. Heck, you might even be able to get Guice at 64, if teams are really scared off by his "negatives". Apparently, the story about him being asked if he is gay at the Combine was a total fabrication, which makes you wonder about his mental stability.

Landry is the way I'd go at 33. Barring super bad medical. We could use another fastball in our rotation.

Sutton at 35. Bully receiver who can also be an asset in the ground game.

Kerryon Johnson, if he lasts, at 64.

Don't forget that OT needs a big time look (it was rumored to be a target in the 2nd round for us)

I hope we can pick up a LT, RB, and WR in round 2.

Landry seems like the obvious pick here, although I think he is a bit undersized.

Any reports on his run defense? I know he is a heck of a pass rusher.

A note on BC edge player Harold Landry as he remains on the board: Some teams have him flagged medically (knee/back). A difference-maker at an impact position when healthy, though. Had 16.5 sacks in 2016.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/989703552556851200

Landry is an unwilling run defender and has medical concerns. Very talented, but it's a definite risk

by
Dane Brugler
7 hrs
-- By Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com --

FRISCO, Texas -- After the selection of 32 players in the highly-celebrated first round of the 2018 NFL Draft Thursday, plenty of surprisingly good names were available to reset boards for Day 2, Friday.

Several players slipped due to medicals (Harold Landry, Maurice Hurst) while others simply didn't find a spot.

For those still focused on quarterbacks, even after five were taken in first round, watch for needy teams to consider Oklahoma State's Mason Rudolph (No. 15 below) and Richmond's Kyle Lauletta (rated as No. 7 QB and No. 94 overall before draft).

According to NFLDraftScout.com rankings, here are the top-50 prospects still available entering round two.

So here is your cheat sheet when draft goes back on the air Friday at 7 p.m. ET.

--1. Harold Landry, DE, Boston College (6-2, 252, 4.64, #7)

Although his senior season didn't go as expected, due mostly to injuries, Landry still possesses the outstanding bend, shoulder dip and speed that NFL teams covet on the edges. Medical concerns could be the key reason he fell out of the first round.

--2. James Daniels, OC, Iowa (6-3, 306, 5.23, #78)

With his balance, punch and toughness, Daniels has the ingredients of a long-time NFL starter. He is quick to engage and control the point of attack, sustaining his mean streak through the whistle. Daniels had knee issues in college, is that the reason behind his fall?

--3. Will Hernandez, OG, UTEP (6-2, 327, 5.15, #76)

A mauler with elite grip strength, Hernandez loves to play the bully role regardless of the score or clock, displaying the natural power and surprising foot quickness to be a plug-and-play starter.

--4. Connor Williams, OT, Texas (6-5, 296, 5.05, #55)

The tale of two tapes: the 2016 game film for Williams shows a future top-20 draft pick, but his 2017 tape was a combination of uneven play and injuries, leading to concerns and questions. Half the league will have him on the board as a guard and the other half at tackle.

--5. Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (6-0, 196, 4.56, #15)

Jackson shows the football intelligence and ball skills to excel as an outside zone cornerback in the NFL. He would be higher on this list, but his issues in run support and press-man coverage are bothersome.

--6. Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU (6-3, 218, 4.54, #16)

No receiver prospect in this class has a higher NFL ceiling than Sutton with exceptional athletic prowess for man his size. However, there will be a massive difference between the offense at SMU and that of whichever team drafts him.

--7. Derrius Guice, RB, LSU (5-10, 224, 4.49, #5)

Guice stresses defenses with his quick, explosive cuts and his angry run style make him tough to finish, although it also leads to durability concerns. He has the competitive nature and athletic profile of a runner no NFL team wants to see in their division.

--8. Ronnie Harrison, SS, Alabama (6-2, 207, 4.57, #15)

A violent downhill player, Harrison has an outstanding closing burst and creates collisions. He shows some flaws in coverage, but he has a large tackle radius and athletic traits to be a NFL starter.

--9. Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State (6-5, 270, 4.76, #6)

His tape doesn't show a difference-maker, but Hubbard has a well-rounded skill-set with the athleticism and intelligence that fuels his versatility, projecting as a long-term starter.

--10. Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State (6-5, 256, 4.70, #86)

Goedert needs time to refine his routes and blocking, but those deficiencies are based more inexperience rather than inability. His physical skill-set and dependable ball skills make him the top tight end option in this class.

--11. Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M (5-10, 201, 4.47, #3)

--12. Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (6-5, 247, 4.54, #88)

--13. Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (6-0, 207, 4.40, #8)

--14. Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (5-10, 178, 4.32, #1)

--15. Mason Rudolph, QB, Oklahoma State (6-5, 235, 4.90, #2)

--16. Lorenzo Carter, LB, Georgia (6-5, 250, 4.46, #7)

--17. Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado (6-0, 201, 4.50, #26)

--18. Harrison Phillips, DT, Stanford (6-3, 307, 5.21, #66)

--19. Ronald Jones, RB, USC (5-11, 205, 4.49, #25)

--20. Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (6-5, 309, 5.23, #73)

--21. Rasheem Green, DL, USC (6-4, 275, 4.73, #94)

--22. DJ Chark, WR, LSU (6-3, 199, 4.34, #7)

--23. Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (5-11, 227, 4.52, #27)

--24. Mark Andrews, TE, Oklahoma (6-5, 256, 4.58, #81)

--25. Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (6-1, 206, 4.53, #6)

--26. Brian O'Neill, OT, Pittsburgh (6-7, 297, 4.80, #70)

--27. Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (5-11, 213, 4.45, #21)

--28. Kemoko Turay, DE, Rutgers (6-5, 253, 4.65, #58)

--29. Nathan Shepherd, DT, Fort Hays State (6-4, 315, 5.09, #97)

--30. Fred Warner, LB, BYU (6-3, 236, 4.64, #4)

--31. Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis (5-11, 201, 4.53, #3)

--32. Rashaan Gaulden, FS, Tennessee (6-1, 197, 4.61, #7)

--33. Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas (6-2, 236, 4.52, #46)

--34. Josh Sweat, DE/OLB, Florida State (6-5, 251, 4.53, #9)

--35. Austin Corbett, OG, Nevada (6-4, 306, 5.15, #73)

--36. B.J. Hill, DT, NC State (6-3, 311, 4.99, #98)

--37. Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (6-5, 214, 4.48, #6)

--38. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, DE, Oklahoma (6-2, 253, 4.77, #31)

--39. Jessie Bates, FS, Wake Forest (6-1, 200, 4.50, #3)

--40. Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma (6-8, 345, 5.68, #78)

--41. Josey Jewell, LB, Iowa (6-1, 234, 4.69, #43)

--42. Braden Smith, OG, Auburn (6-6, 315, 5.20, #71)

--43. Dante Pettis, WR, Washington (6-0, 186, 4.47, #8)

--44. Ian Thomas, TE, Indiana (6-4, 259, 4.65, #80)

--45. Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State (6-2, 234, 4.70, #10)

--46. Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama (5-11, 183, 4.36, #28)

--47. Arden Key, DE/OLB, LSU (6-5, 238, #49)

--48. Duke Dawson, CB, Florida (5-11, 197, 4.46, #7)

--49. Martinas Rankin, OT, Mississippi State (6-4, 308, #55)

--50. Deadrin Senat, DT, South Florida (6-0, 314, 5.16, #10)

https://www.themaven.net/nfldraftscout/n...hpGVlkA/?full=1

Too bad we don't need interior OL help

ton of talent to be had in this round. I believe there will be as many probowlers out of the 2nd as there were in the first. Guice and Sutton were 2 of my top 5 players at the end of the season. Mason rudolph was my favorite QB in this entire draft. Harold Landry imho was the best pass rusher in this draft, injuries slowed him down last year but the kid is a freak.

Hell we could see 8-10 corners come off the board in this round. WE have 4 receivers imho that are better than any receiver taken in the first last year. Crazy depth in the 2nd.

If we could get the CB/DL and get Chubb with our 3rd 2nd round pick instead of Guise I could live with that.

I think we go with Landry at 33. We make sure he heals up good, as we have great depth on the line, and he could be a steal.

In all the years that we've been at the top of the 2nd round, we've never taken the player(s) I've hoped

Thanks for the list, I was just a bout to go searching for it.

How's everyone feeling about LT? I find it hard to believe Dorsey is going to rely on Shon Coleman and Rod Johnson at LT...we will get killed every snap...with no 3rd round pick for us, We need a LT badly

I'd rather have a LT over a RB in round two...As we have two good options in Hyde and Duke.