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I thought you said at 1 time (couple, 3 weeks ago maybe? I don't keep the copious notes you do I guess), that Cohen was dumb for paying out of his pocket for stormy, and not even being re-imbursed for it?
It seems to me it was you that said it, perhaps I'm mistaken. Something about the guy (cohen) re mortgaged his house?
Maybe I'm wrong. Yes, Cohen re-mortgaged his house and for some incomprehensible reason, then funneled the money through the Trump campaign to pay her.
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Come on bro ... trumps too stupid .. he dont know howt to negotiate ... i’d much rather have PDF, OCD or Joh Kerry negotiating deals for me than Trump the moron .... Get real bro ... 
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I would think "our" "President" has better things to do than call into a morning show, or play golf, or tweet.
But hey, I can't always be right. You mean like going on the view, letterman, or playing golf with Jay-Z. didn't bother me then with Obama, don't bother me know. All presidents do this. Your hate just forgets that fact. How many days in office has Trump spent golfing? Care to compare that to Obama? I think not
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Don't know don't care. How long was Obama in office before he put us into another war? Dare to compare?
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care to comment on the actual issue?
can you explain where the money came from?
we're all waiting, Diam and 40. Ahhh, hot fresh coffee. Uh, if I knew where the money came from they wouldn't need to be spending all that money for a trial in the Southern District of NY now would they? I would simply tell them, after of course I posted it here to tell you. You still haven't explained how you think this is nothing but "false accusations" by "the Left", despite the fact that both campaign receipts paid out to Trump's prostitute as well as the NDA he forgot to sign are both public record. You wouldn't be ducking that because you know what you said was complete nonsense, would you? First you must show me where I said this Cohen/Stormy thing was false accusations by the Left. Here you go. It was in this thread, 2 hours ago. I waste no time in confronting the new world you on the Left have created for us where accusation alone is enough to lynch anyone. Why would you call it "accusation alone" when there's a mountain of public evidence showing that Trump did indeed pay his prostiute with campaign funds for a hush agreement that was unenforceable because he forgot to sign the NDA? So you got, "The Left is making it all up", from that quote? PDF fact. You should already know that a mountain of public evidence does not a guilty verdict make. A trial does that. The last guy Lynched in Alabama had a whole town as witnesses against him and an innocent man was hung. Rinse and Repeat today with you guys Lynching folks without due process. Shame!
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The receipts paid to Trump's prostiute through his campaign and the unsigned NDA are both public record, so I'm trying to understand why you called it "accusation alone"?
Also, comparing a racially motivated public murder to a senile racist idiot who got caught paying a prostitute with campaign funds because he was so dumb he forgot to sign the NDA is pretty despicable.
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Not sure how to find out, but did anyone take the 5th in the Nixon Admin?
Anyway, the real question is, what's he afraid of? Everyone in the Trump circle is innocent right? We have the RIGHT to not testify against ourselves. Guilt must be proven by the Prosecution. If my Attorney tells me to plead the 5th, I plead the 5th. If he tells me to spill my guts, I spill my guts. Whether or not I have something to hide means nothing, I have that RIGHT. What is the problem with that? Nobody is talking about his right to do it.. but in Trumps own words, him doing it implies that either he's guilty or he knows Trump is guilty and his confession would help prove that.. those are Trump's words.. not mine, not Swish's.. I've been around these boards a long long time 40.. and I've seen it over and over again.. if a black dude runs from the cops, it means he's guilty of something... he should just stay and cooperate if he's not guilty, if somebody pleads the 5th, it's because they have something to hide... they just assist in the investigation if they are innocent... Now, when it's one of your own, protecting himself and others of yours... suddenly it's ok. Just curious, when John Kerry left public life, did he leave you his flip flops?
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The last guy Lynched in Alabama had a whole town as witnesses against him and an innocent man was hung.
Rinse and Repeat today with you guys Lynching folks without due process.
Shame! 40, I'd love to hear more about why you think an innocent man being publicly murdered due to racial animus and a moron getting caught paying his prostitute with campaign funds because he forgot to sign the non-disclosure agreement was an appropriate comparison to make. Could you elaborate on that for us?
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Not sure how to find out, but did anyone take the 5th in the Nixon Admin?
Anyway, the real question is, what's he afraid of? Everyone in the Trump circle is innocent right? We have the RIGHT to not testify against ourselves. Guilt must be proven by the Prosecution. If my Attorney tells me to plead the 5th, I plead the 5th. If he tells me to spill my guts, I spill my guts. Whether or not I have something to hide means nothing, I have that RIGHT. What is the problem with that? Nobody is talking about his right to do it.. but in Trumps own words, him doing it implies that either he's guilty or he knows Trump is guilty and his confession would help prove that.. those are Trump's words.. not mine, not Swish's.. I've been around these boards a long long time 40.. and I've seen it over and over again.. if a black dude runs from the cops, it means he's guilty of something... he should just stay and cooperate if he's not guilty, if somebody pleads the 5th, it's because they have something to hide... they just assist in the investigation if they are innocent... Now, when it's one of your own, protecting himself and others of yours... suddenly it's ok. Just curious, when John Kerry left public life, did he leave you his flip flops? Hogwash! I am not protecting anyone. Trump says pleading the 5th looks like guilt to him. I disagree and stated it is our Right to plead the 5th. If a Black dude runs from the cops? What? Pleading the 5th is always ok because it is our RIGHT. It may not be a good look, but it is our RIGHT!
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Trump says pleading the 5th looks like guilt to him. I disagree and stated it is our Right to plead the 5th. Ok, you disagreed with Trump. That's all I wanted to know.
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Trump says pleading the 5th looks like guilt to him. I disagree and stated it is our Right to plead the 5th. Here's the NDA with both Cohen and Daniels signature that Trump forgot to sign because he's an idiot:  Here is the receipts for the illegal campaign payment to Trump's prostitute, funneled through an LLC Cohen created just to pay her: How, exactly, do you feel Cohen's guilt is in question, to the point where you compared him to an innocent man being publicly hung?
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Trump says pleading the 5th looks like guilt to him. I disagree and stated it is our Right to plead the 5th. Ok, you disagreed with Trump. That's all I wanted to know. Really? Man we could have saved a bunch of typing if you had just asked.
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Prosecutors seize on President Trump's comments about Cohen on 'Fox & Friends' http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/prosecuto...ory?id=54750863Prosecutors have seized on comments made by President Donald Trump on Fox News on Thursday morning that could undermine his argument that records seized in the FBI’s recent raids of his personal lawyer Michael Cohen’s properties should be subject to attorney-client privilege. In a phone interview with Fox & Friends ahead of Cohen’s appearance in federal court in New York, Trump distanced himself from Cohen’s legal woes, saying his longtime attorney and confidant handles only a “tiny, tiny little fraction” of his legal work. “I don't know his business, but this doesn't have to do with me,” Trump said of Cohen. “Michael is a businessman. He has got a business. He also practices law. I would say probably the big thing is his business, and they're looking something having to do with his business. I have nothing to do with his business, I can tell you.” PHOTO: President Donald Trump called in to speak with the hosts of Fox & Friends, April 26, 2018.FOX President Donald Trump called in to speak with the hosts of "Fox & Friends," April 26, 2018. It didn’t take long for federal prosecutors to take note. In a letter to Judge Kimba Wood filed to the court on Thursday morning, prosecutors suggested Trump may have damaged his own argument with his comments to the cable network. “President Trump reportedly said on cable television this morning that Cohen performs ‘a tiny, tiny little fraction’ of his overall legal work,” wrote U.S. Attorney Robert Khuzami. “These statements … suggest that the seized materials are unlikely to contain voluminous privileged documents, further supporting the importance of efficiency here.” Cohen has requested that a “special master” be appointed to review the seized material to weed out any potentially privileged material. President Trump’s attorneys have argued that he should get the first look at any documents that might contained privileged communications with Cohen before prosecutors are permitted to review the seized materials. PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trumps personal lawyer Michael Cohen leaves federal court in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, April 16, 2018.Lucas Jackson/Reuters U.S. President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen leaves federal court in the Manhattan borough of New York City, New York, April 16, 2018.more + “These critical decisions concerning a sacred privilege are not for a team of prosecutors to make,” Trump attorney Joanna Hendon wrote in a court filing last week. Federal prosecutors, meanwhile, have argued that appointing an outside referee would needlessly delay the investigation. They have said an internal team, separate from the investigators, is capable of reviewing the seized material without prejudice. In Thursday’s letter, prosecutors indicated they’re willing to withdraw their objections to a “special master” and proposed a compromise position that would give the special master a first look for potentially privileged materials “and then hear from both sides before making a final determination.” PHOTO: U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood presides over a federal court hearing where attorneys for President Donald Trump and Michael Cohen tried to persuade the judge to delay prosecutors from examining records and electronic devices seized in New York.Elizabeth Williams/AP U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood presides over a federal court hearing where attorneys for President Donald Trump and Michael Cohen tried to persuade the judge to delay prosecutors from examining records and electronic devices seized in New York.more + Judge Wood has signaled that the dispute will play out in public view on Thursday. “Counsel should be prepared to address the process to be undertaken by a Special Master, should one be appointed, to review claims of privilege,” Judge Wood wrote in her order summoning the parties to court.
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Simply show us who has been found guilty by a jury of his peers and the conversation ends.
I am not a Judge or Prosecutor who can address your evidence.
Due Process, not PDF thinks.
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Simply show us who has been found guilty by a jury of his peers and the conversation ends.
I am not a Judge or Prosecutor who can address your evidence.
Due Process, not PDF thinks. I just don't understand why you felt that comparing an innocent man being murdered due to racial animus and an idiot who got caught illegally paying his prostitute via his campaign was a reasonable comparison to make, especially given that Cohen's guilt is clearly spelled out with a mountain of evidence, thus why he plead the 5th. Why do you think a moron getting caught paying a hooker because he was so dumb he forgot to sign an NDA is similar to an innocent man being hung?
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In Thursday’s letter, prosecutors indicated they’re willing to withdraw their objections to a “special master” and proposed a compromise position that would give the special master a first look for potentially privileged materials “and then hear from both sides before making a final determination.”
“Counsel should be prepared to address the process to be undertaken by a Special Master, should one be appointed, to review claims of privilege,” Judge Wood wrote in her order summoning the parties to court.
So Trump and Cohen win! They get the "Special Master" they have been asking for that the Court didn't want to give them. 
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*Cohen pleads the 5th because there's indisputable public evidence that he illegally paid Trump's prostitute with campaign money* 40: Big win for Cohen! What is the phrase you like to use? Trump Derangement Syndrome
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*Cohen pleads the 5th because there's indisputable public evidence that he illegally paid Trump's prostitute with campaign money* You just made that up because he has not said that is why he is pleading the 5th. 
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*Cohen pleads the 5th because there's indisputable public evidence that he illegally paid Trump's prostitute with campaign money* You just made that up because he has not said that is why he is pleading the 5th. Once again, here is the NDA with both Cohen and Trump's prostitute's signatures:  Here are the receipts from the campaign payment to Trump's prostitute: Just a wild stab in the dark, but I'm preeeeetty sure that's why Cohen plead the 5th. Also, you haven't explained why you think an innocent man being publicly hung due to his skin color and an idiot getting caught paying a hooker via his campaign are similar. Could you flesh that out for us?
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Also, Trump stated himself weeks ago that Cohen is guilty.
Remember when he did the senile grandpa thing and obliterated his lawyer-client privilege because he claimed that Cohen acted alone when he illegally paid Trump's hooker with campaign money?
40, do you think Trump was lying when he claimed that his lawyer illegally paid his hooker? Why do you think he'd make up a story about his lawyer's guilt?
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*Cohen pleads the 5th because there's indisputable public evidence that he illegally paid Trump's prostitute with campaign money* You just made that up because he has not said that is why he is pleading the 5th. And then there is this.^^^^ You can talk and talk but you may not Lynch. Proof is in the Conviction. Just like Collusion. Just like Obstruction. Just like Trump passing a complete Physical and Mental workup and passing it with flying colors but your diagnosis differs.
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Why do you think Trump went on TV weeks ago and claimed that his lawyer illegally paid his prostitute? Do you think he was lying? Why would he make up that his lawyer committed a federal offense? Just like Trump passing a complete Physical and Mental workup and passing it with flying colors but your diagnosis differs I'll never stop laughing at 40 calling Trump being able to identify a picture of a camel as "passing with flying colors". You can talk and talk but you may not Lynch. You still haven't explained why you think a senile idiot getting caught illegally paying his hooker because he was too dumb to not shut his mouth is comparable to an innocent black man being hung because of racial animus.
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You still haven't explained why you think a senile idiot getting
Fake News! The President of the United States of America Donald Trump was given a Physical and Mental evaluation and passed with flying colors.
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You still haven't explained why you think a senile idiot getting
Fake News! The President of the United States of America Donald Trump was given a Physical and Mental evaluation and passed with flying colors. This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid, and then went on TV and waived his lawyer-client privilege because he was too stupid to know better. He most certainly is an idiot. And you didn't address my questions, maybe you missed them- Why do you think Trump went on TV a few weeks back and said that his lawyer was guilty of illegally paying Trump's hooker? Do you think Trump was lying? Why would he make up a story about his lawyer committing a federal offense? And why do you think an innocent black man being murdered is comparable to Trump getting caught paying his hooker because he and his lawyers are idiots? Also, if you don't think Trump is senile, why do you think he constantly has trouble understanding basic concepts like what health insurance is, despite people explaining it to him numerous times? Do you think he's just really dumb?
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Hey, could you explain what you meant earlier in the thread when you said it was "allegedly" racist when Trump tweeted a graphic from a white supremacy website that claimed 81% of white murder victims were killed by blacks? It's quite clearly indisputably racist, so I was wondering why you felt it was merely "alleged"?
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Trump says pleading the 5th looks like guilt to him. I disagree and stated it is our Right to plead the 5th. Ok, you disagreed with Trump. That's all I wanted to know. HISTORY has been made on Dawgtalkers!
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Come on bro ... trumps too stupid .. he dont know howt to negotiate ... i’d much rather have PDF, OCD or Joh Kerry negotiating deals for me than Trump the moron .... Get real bro ... Just so I understand... You don't think it was incredibly dumb for Trump to forget to sign the NDA agreement with his hooker, essentially giving her $130,000 for nothing? And you don't think it was dumb to go on TV and waive his lawyer-client privilege before claiming his lawyer was guilty of a federal offense? And you don't think it was dumb to funnel the hush money for his hooker through his campaign? Could you explain to us how you think these things were particularly intelligent or shrewd?
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This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid,
How DARE you denigrate 'adult film stars' like that, calling her a hooker....
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You still haven't explained why you think a senile idiot getting
Fake News! The President of the United States of America Donald Trump was given a Physical and Mental evaluation and passed with flying colors. Did they give him an IQ test?
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He passed that, as well. "Mr. President, can you identify this image:  "Eye." "Good. Now, can you identify this object:  "Cue." "Good, Mr. President. (Ronnie- pass him now, before I have to ask another question...)"
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So Michael Cohen had 16 cell phones.
Typically, you’re suppose to throw away the burner phones, but apparently we are dealing with some not so smart people.
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This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid,
How DARE you denigrate 'adult film stars' like that, calling her a hooker.... Trump paid her for sex. That's, by definition, prostitution. Had they filmed it and sold the footage for profit, that would be a film role. And I didn't denigrate sex work, it's a legitimate occupation.
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This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid,
How DARE you denigrate 'adult film stars' like that, calling her a hooker.... Trump paid her for sex. That's, by definition, prostitution. Had they filmed it and sold the footage for profit, that would be a film role. Her lawyer posted a picture of a DVD not so long ago. I'm betting Trump knows about his little film role with Stormy now.
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This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid,
How DARE you denigrate 'adult film stars' like that, calling her a hooker.... Trump paid her for sex. That's, by definition, prostitution. Had they filmed it and sold the footage for profit, that would be a film role. Her lawyer posted a picture of a DVD not so long ago. I'm betting Trump knows about his little film role with Stormy now. That was a pretty low-rent move on the lawyer's part, and if they had a video I would highly doubt they only settled for $130,000
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So Michael Cohen had 16 cell phones.
Typically, you’re suppose to throw away the burner phones, but apparently we are dealing with some not so smart people. 16 phones and 3 clients, two of them being high-profile imbeciles.
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This thread exists because Trump forgot to sign an NDA with a hooker he illegally paid,
How DARE you denigrate 'adult film stars' like that, calling her a hooker.... Trump paid her for sex. That's, by definition, prostitution. Had they filmed it and sold the footage for profit, that would be a film role. Her lawyer posted a picture of a DVD not so long ago. I'm betting Trump knows about his little film role with Stormy now. That was a pretty low-rent move on the lawyer's part, and if they had a video I would highly doubt they only settled for $130,000 Low rent? Trump & Cohen set the bar. 
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APNewsBreak: Trump lawyer loaned to taxi mogul in weed biz https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apnewsbreak-trump-lawyer-gave-loans-pot-linked-cab-044118269.htmlNEW YORK (AP) -- President Donald Trump's personal attorney, whose business dealings are being investigated by the FBI, and the lawyer's father-in-law have lent $26 million in recent years to a taxi mogul who is shifting into the legalized marijuana industry, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press. Semyon "Sam" Shtayner, a longtime business associate of Michael Cohen's father-in-law, created Nevada-based Cannaboss LLC the day before the 2016 election. A few months later, he took a majority position in a company that is provisionally licensed to cultivate medicinal marijuana and produce edibles, the records show. "He personally manages over 500 taxi medallions, but he is looking to transition from the medallion business to the cannibas (sic)," according to the personal narrative Shtayner submitted last October to city officials in Henderson, Nevada, that was obtained by the AP under the state's public records law. It's not clear whether Shtayner used any of the loans — $6 million of which have come directly from Cohen since 2014 — to finance his grow operation. Earlier this month, FBI agents searched Cohen's hotel, office and home seeking banking records, as well as records related to his dealings in the taxi industry, people familiar with the probe told the AP, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the ongoing investigation. Public records show the Ukraine-born Shtayner, 63, his wife and companies they control have used their properties in Chicago and Sunny Isles, Florida, as collateral for the loans from Cohen and his father-in-law, Fima Shusterman. Neither Cohen nor his attorney responded to phone messages or an email seeking comment about the loans. An attorney representing Shtayner in his Nevada marijuana ventures told the AP his client had no comment. Reached on his cellphone, Shusterman declined to discuss his loans or Shtayner. News of Shtayner's ties to the medical marijuana industry comes as the Trump administration finds itself somewhat split on marijuana policy. Trump recently indicated he will support a law protecting states that already have legalized the drug — a position counter to that of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who stridently opposes any such effort and in January lifted restrictions that had kept federal prosecutors from pursuing cases against those complying with state marijuana laws. Marijuana use is fully legal in Nevada, seven other states and Washington, D.C., and 38 states allow medicinal or other limited uses. It was not clear why Shtayner has decided to move out of taxis and into the grow business. But the rapid rise of ride-hailing apps such as Uber and Lyft has disrupted the taxi industry, and Shtayner is among a handful of prominent taxi owners who face lawsuits from creditors who once lent liberally to medallion owners. The value of medallions — the physical plates affixed to cabs that owners are required to display — have dropped precipitously in recent years from highs of over $1 million apiece in New York just a few years ago to nearly half that amount today. The subsequent drop has left many taxi medallion owners overleveraged. One former Cohen business partner, who managed Cohen's taxis for years, is accused in a lawsuit by creditors of hiding his assets in financial disclosures to his bank — including a luxury apartment in a Trump skyscraper. Another former cab manager of Cohen's has declared bankruptcy and is facing criminal charges from state prosecutors in New York, who accuse him of pocketing nearly $5 million in taxes. The business relationship among Cohen, Shusterman and Shtayner stretches back years. Property records in New York show that Shtayner and Shusterman were among the investors in an upper Manhattan taxi garage and auto repair shop in the 1990s. Last August, Shusterman lent at least $12 million against properties owned by Shtayner, his wife or their companies, Chicago real estate records show. In a second series of four transactions in March, Shusterman lent the Shtayners or their companies an additional $8 million. Four of the loans were made to Shtayner's wife, Yasya, and four others were directed to two Chicago taxi companies she manages, according to corporate documents. The Chicago Sun-Times first reported those transactions. Cohen has been involved in the New York City yellow cab industry since the 1990s. He has a fleet of 22 cabs in Chicago and, along with his wife and father-in-law, has owned some 30 medallions in New York after initially going into business with his father-in-law, records show. Shusterman — who, like Shtayner, started as a cab driver after emigrating from Ukraine — pleaded guilty in 1993 to federal money-laundering charges in a tax-evasion case involving cab drivers and a Brooklyn accountant. Shtayner's Chicago cab empire has grown rapidly, though records show that 99 of his medallions are in foreclosure and 15 have some sort of violation. Forty-nine have already been taken over by the city for failure to pay taxes and fees. Although Shtayner has been sued by creditors, operates a taxi business in a harrowing time for his industry and is borrowing heavily in nontraditional loans, the city of Henderson concluded that he is adequately liquid financially. The city's business operation division found that Shtayner and his business partner, a Las Vegas-based steel and aluminum provider, each had liquid assets that exceed the state's requirement that they be able to free up to $250,000 within 30 days if needed, according to the records obtained by the AP. _____________________ so.....he had millions to drop on somebody's weed business, but had to take out a equity loan to pay stormy daniels? my 9 year old daughter lies better than this.
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Ewww boy. The stupidity continues. According to Trump's own words Cohen should get the death penalty.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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