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Absolutely. He will see that he can screw up over and over and over and over again and still be a Brown. Meathead is an EXCELLENT example for the kid to follow.

He was cleared of the sexual assault stuff, but I get your point. I personally do not like the pick, because I think fairly high 4th rounders need to not be gambles. If we had got him in the 6th like we did Bryant then whatever, because if he flames out no big deal.

A 4th rounder who never contributes is a BIG freaking deal, and that could happen with this kid.

Love the talent, but hate the gamble this high in the draft

I agree.



I know the kid is good. It just depends on if he is given a chance and a rudder.



Not unlike a lot of inner city kids.

Multiple drug incidents, two felony fraud raps and a sexual assault accusation isn't "stupid", it's a pattern.

That said, third day is for taking talented players with character concerns. But I'd rather say away from anyone with assault accusations regarding a female.

Not that it matters, but the sex assault case was dropped.

How long will he STAY clean? You seem to overlook he screwed up not once, not twice, not three times not FOUR times but repeatedly. Over and over and over again. He got busted for a DUI while awaiting a suspension hearing with Goodell. He got busted immediately after coming off a years suspension. He is by FAR the DUMBEST player the Browns have EVER had. He EARNED the nickname meathead. DEAD from the neck up. So excuse me if I'm not his greatest fan like you. I'm sure you would sign him to a HUGE deal right now, wouldn't you? Because he's clean and would never ever mess up again... Well, his entire life proves that thought to be VERY naive. How can this team EVER trust him again? How can we sign him when he hits FA? Trust is EARNED and he has shown not once or twice but his entire career in both college AND the pros that just when you think he got it together, he will screw up.

I hope they keep him as far away from Callaway as possible. Only bad things can happen with those two together. The way to stay clean is to stay as far away from temptation as possible. To keep away from bad influences. I'm not sure which one is the worst influence. We sure are hell didn't need another screw-up. We already had meathead.

Those were dismissed.....don't forget that part

Or, maybe he'll see that Josh Gordon could've been making 10 million a year by now, but is stuck in his somewhere around %750,000 salary because he couldn't stay clean.

This is a really slippery slope. I feel like a solid percentage of these accusations turn out to be false.

The Brantley situation comes to mind. Also the situation with the 49ers linebacker and his ex girlfriend...

Kind of.The woman in question boycotted the hearing because the college put a football booster in charge of the case... Or so she says. Maybe she lied... I don't know the particulars or if he is, in fact, guilty but I do know that adding that together with everything else shows a serious problem. If it was JUST this, or JUST the weed or JUST the stolen credit cards... but add them all up and we just got ourselves another idiot. A guy with first round talent that is too STUPID to grab the brass ring. He would rather be a thug.

After ALL of that, after being cut from the team for an entire season he fails a drug test at the combine...

Good catch.

The fact is many Browns fans do not care about any of this. He can do anything he wants. Get suspended 100 times and fans will love him anyway. Meathead is a fine example of that. If he smokes weed this summer and gets booted yet again, fans will wait with great anticipation for the Savior's return.

Johnny beat his girlfriend so badly he ruptured her eardrum and most of you backed him anyway. So that is where we are. A player can do whatever he wants as long as you all think he is a great player... THAT is the example this young man will learn very quickly.

They were dismissed because a UF football booster was appointed to oversee the case, so the victim boycotted the hearing.

And if it was one incident, hey, who knows. But he has two felony theft convictions, and after getting arrested for possession and being suspended for a failed test, he flunked another one at the combine.

There's a difference between an incident and a pattern.

Brantley punched a woman in the mouth and knocked out one of her teeth and knocked her unconscious. The state dismissed the case because Brantley admitted to shoving her to the ground, but cited the state's "Stand Your Ground Law", asserting that he feared for his safety when the 130 pound woman lunged at him. The police maintained it was a closed mouth punch, not a shove, but the state agreed with the "Stand Your Ground" defense.

Reuben Foster just got indicted and there's video of him punching his girlfriend and dragging her by the hair.

Why on Earth would you use those two as examples?

I did a search and couldn't find a video of him punching his girlfriend and dragging her by the hair. And there better not be one, because:

'Reuben Foster's girlfriend recants domestic violence allegations against Niners' LB'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf...ions/552463002/

What happens if the opposite is true... What happens if this kid is the influence on Gordon? Meathead has stayed clean for a short while now. He sure as hell doesn't need bad influences in his life or in the WR room. We need to surround him with GOOD citizens that will help him STAY on the straight and narrow. We just put a very troubled young man into Meatheads life. If MH junior gets busted I don't really care, but losing meathead senior would really HURT this team this season. I'm hoping next year we draft a #1 WR to replace MH once he hits FA. For NOW we kind of NEED him. So rolling the dice on this seems like a very bad risk. Yes, it is entirely possible the kid comes in and stays clean and becomes a great player. But the RISK is very very big that he doesn't and I would hate for him to take meathead down with him...

I think you just try to stir the post



Serious question...are you a fan of the Browns?

Wasn't it determined that Brantley never punched the woman, just shoved her away as she was punching him?

Marijuana stays in your system for as long as 45 days.

OSU fans for being mad Florida beat them in a a few sports.



Anything Florida is no good.

The video hasn't been publicly released, as the trial hasn't started.

But it's why prosecutors aren't dropping the case despite a recantation. Usually without an accuser to testify it gets dropped.

The fact that it's not doesn't bode well for Foster as evidence of false accusations.

Yes. And I believe video and witnesses refuting the woman's claim.

Okay, maybe it wasn't as good as a catch as I once thought.

Sounds like you have been reading some fake news.

Battery complaint dismissed against Cleveland Browns' Caleb Brantley
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/b...rantley/2324230

In a press release, prosecutors said Austin and witnesses who testified on her behalf had been drinking that night and provided contradictory testimony. Austin first denied being assaulted, then couldn't remember much, if anything, about it. Neutral witnesses also supported Brantley's story — that he pushed her out of the way after she punched him.

Austin's attorneys said last month that her injuries from the fight resulted in "extensive medical treatment." But investigators said she was not seriously hurt and that "any injury she sustained is relatively minor and inconsistent with any great force having been used against her."

Reuben Foster's girlfriend says 49ers linebacker didn't injure her
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article209852989.html

Reuben Foster's girlfriend initially lied to police and the 49ers linebacker did not injure her during a February incident at his home in Los Gatos, the girlfriend's attorney said Wednesday in a statement to The Sacramento Bee.

The attorney, Stephanie Rickard, said that the injuries, including a ruptured eardrum, that sent the 28-year-old woman to the hospital were suffered in a fight with another woman and there is a video of that confrontation.

Why do you guys always trot out stuff like "sounds like fake news!" without actually looking into it?



https://deadspin.com/states-attorney-dismisses-battery-charge-against-browns-1795318147

Okay Braylon. Lol (different school, same rediculous premise)

We all (mostly all) loved Haden. At least until he started getting hurt. Just ball out and you’ll be loved. I think a player’s school comes way way down on most people’s list of why not to like a player.

Several ex-players who are now firm believers in medical cannabis are trying to get it off the banned substance as they believe it can be hugely beneficial for players (not just those who are retired but those currently playing too).

rich eisen with a good point: there's a lot of pressure on Landry (and probably a HUGE reason we've acquired him) to keep Gordon, Coleman, and now Callaway on track

Agreed.......and of all schools why would it be UF?? They haven't been nationally relevant in a decade? Alabama, Clemson, Penn St, those are all schools who have beaten or been better than us that I could see some fans being dumb about, but if anyone thinks of UF these days it's because they are a fan of the school or a bitter rival like FSU/UG......OSU is neither.

I don't like the pick because it's a 4th rounder on a guy a lot of people thought wouldn't get drafted because of character concerns. He has a TON of talent, and maybe he turns it around and realizes his potential. It's just not a gamble I would take personally.

False.

Brantley shoved her after being attacked. She was so wasted that she fell and lost teeth.



False.

Foster's girlfriend made it up. Her injuries were the result of a fight with another woman.

Your interpretation of both situations were wrong and now you have egg on your face.

Yeah, that's what it is... lmao

I wonder how that would work with credit card fraud?

How else you gonna buy it?

And the charges have been dropped? Yes or no?



It's not my interpretation.

Brantley, a 300 pound man, knocked a 120 pound woman unconscious and busted her tooth.

Brantley admits this happened. Brantley's attorney admits this happened. The State attorney admits this happened.

The only differing story comes from the police, who claimed he punched, not shoved her.

You're trying to paint him as a victim of false accusations, and you're claiming I have egg on my face?



I'm still marveling that someone would actually try to argue that a 300 pound man throwing a woman to the ground and knocking her unconscious is a victim. Like, Jesus Christ.