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You keep bringing up the number of indictments when ZERO have anything to do with Trump. How many have flipped? Well let's see, I ASSUME none because he still has NOTHING on Trump.

Comey....lmao....Rosenstien (sp) recommended the firing but Trump fired him over the fake Russian thing...gmab.

You are 100% correct, Trump runs his mouth, however, he's right more than he's wrong.

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You act as if you know what they do or don't have against Trump. I have news for you. None of us do.


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Originally Posted By: daytnabacker
You are 100% correct, Trump runs his mouth, however, he's right more than he's wrong.


This is laughably absurd.

Trump is a senile idiot who has no idea what's going on around him.

What is he right about, let alone understanding of what's happening in reality?

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You are 100% correct, Trump runs his mouth, however, he's right more than he's wrong.


This is laughably absurd.

Trump is a senile idiot who has no idea what's going on around him.

What is he right about, let alone understanding of what's happening in reality?


I did a quick search and daytnabacker is the guy who once tried to argue that Trump was a successful businessman and that we could all learn something from reading "Art of the Deal".

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Dude you figured out the search function?

My dumbass still can’t properly use it.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Dude you figured out the search function?

My dumbass still can’t properly use it.


Some of us are too busy having jobs to understand how Google works.

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C'mon man....some of us have the ability to decipher the BS, some of us don't. I guess that's why some people can operate a successful business while some are only capable of pushing a broom for a living.

A quick story; back in 2007 I took over the house payments for a guy who was going to jail for insurance fraud. It was a table-top closing which means neither a Title company nor an attorney was involved, only a notary. We placed the property in a Land Trust and me as the Trustee giving me complete control of the property. I held this property for over a year collecting the spread from rent. I sold the property and made over 80k.

I received a call from an attorney representing the previous owner. They were going to sue me for the 80k on the basis our original transaction was null and void because the notary was not present and the doc's were stamped after the fact. Full disclosure, I wasn't at the transaction. I was told by my representative that he had his dad (the notary) stamp the doc's the next day.

His attorney tried to strong arm me and was using language that if I was standing in front of him, well...use your imagination. After he was done running his mouth, I laughed and told him what a dumbass he is. My exact words; let's see, you have a convicted felon for fraud as a client. Hmmm, I wonder what the notary will say when asked if he was present at the transaction? My guess is he'll say he was so he doesn't lose his license. I wonder who the judge will believe? Or, I can bury this case in litigation so damn long, your client will be bankrupt. I already know he can't afford your retainer lmfao. Go straight to hell you weak minded bitch! Never heard a word from him again.

The moral, I know how the GAME is played man....Mueller has NOTHING!

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Yeah, your real estate deal is so close to what we're talking about. lmao

Let me give you a clue here. Prosecutors start at the bottom of the food chain and work their way up. Now I have no clue what they do or don't have on Trump. But the FACT of the matter is neither do you. Your real estate deal is nothing even in the neighborhood of this. Why you even brought it up is beyond me. Maybe you should look at how criminal investigations go down rather than try to compare it to a civil lawsuit threat?

So far a lot of criminal activity has been found in Trumps underlings. If there is anything on Trump, they will be used to help build the case. Nothing will be done to Trump, if there is anything there, until they have worked their way up the chain.

The fact that you're trying to claim victory with the score tied zero to zero half way through the fourth inning says a lot. It says you're listening to everything being spoon fed to you by the people you choose to listen to.

You have no clue what they have thus far on Trump. Neither do I. But unlike you, I'm not naive enough to listen to either side. I'm not trying to predict the outcome of something I can't see behind the scene of. People on both sides who claim otherwise only appear to be foolish.


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you know how the game is played?

so you've gone through obstruction of justice and russian collusion investigations before?

man, we have a lot of experienced people on this board!


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Interesting, you think there is no correlation, well there is. Lawyers play the same damn game regardless if it's criminal or civil.

Thanks for the education on how prosecutors start at the bottom....man, I had no clue of this rofl

Like I said, some people aren't qualified to run a lemonade stand....got that PDF?

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And you lack the qualifications to say what evidence Mueller does or doesn't have against Trump. So there's that.....


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Originally Posted By: Swish
you know how the game is played?

so you've gone through obstruction of justice and russian collusion investigations before?

man, we have a lot of experienced people on this board!


Man the ignorance amazes me....the GAME is litigation. I don't give a damn if you're obstructing justice, dealing drugs, committing bank fraud or murder. THE GAME IS PLAYED THE SAME WAY!

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And you lack the qualifications to say what evidence Mueller does or doesn't have against Trump. So there's that.....


So you're ok with wasting millions upon millions of dollars on this? Only government gives someone a blank check and unlimited time to invent a crime. Again, you'll bankrupt a lemonade stand!

Show me something NOW! Oh I forgot, it's not YOUR money they're playing with, or is it?

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yea, i highly doubt getting caught smoking a joint is played the same as obstructing justice at the federal level.


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So you're ok with wasting millions upon millions of dollars on this? Only government gives someone a blank check and unlimited time to invent a crime. Again, you'll bankrupt a lemonade stand!

Show me something NOW! Oh I forgot, it's not YOUR money they're playing with, or is it?


Funny thing, when people mention Hillary your side promotes this.

And like I said, you have no idea what evidence they do or don't have. You have no idea if it's a waste or not. That's just your political beliefs.


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Political beliefs my ass. I say the same thing about Clinton's impeachment....it's all BS! I'm a dollars and cents guy. If it don't make dollars, it don't make SENSE.

I said in an earlier post about Judge Ellis chastising Mueller, let this set a precedence for ALL future special counsels, STAY ON POINT!

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yea, i highly doubt getting caught smoking a joint is played the same as obstructing justice at the federal level.



You may want to consider putting the pipe down man. You might learn something. Sad thing is Swish, you're a smart guy. There's a lot I can agree with you on.

You've corrected me a couple times and I acknowledged you for it. Unlike some on here, they refuse to learn and just argue.

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The point is, it won't make a difference. The warrants were legal and the criminal activity was real. Manafort will go to trial and most likely be convicted.

You do realize that if your theory were applied, most of the Mofia, organized crime and major drug operations in our nation would never have been convicted or even brought to trial. Because those investigations took years.


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The point is, it won't make a difference. The warrants were legal and the criminal activity was real. Manafort will go to trial and most likely be convicted.

You do realize that if your theory were applied, most of the Mofia, organized crime and major drug operations in our nation would never have been convicted or even brought to trial. Because those investigations took years.


Ummm no they weren't. Fisa app-fraud, come to find out the FBI says Flynn didn't lie, Comey's lies, Rosenstein two-faced BS etc...Proof of so much abuse.

You do know Manaforts crime was back in 2005 and was closed case? Correct me if I'm wrong but Mueller reopened that to squeeze him. What a load of crap. This man is abusing his power, terrorizing families at 4am at gunpoint....for what? To get them to turn on Trump.

Funny you bring up the mafia, who was at the helm of the blundered Whitey Bulger case?

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i learn a lot.

like i learned on friday that Nunes, the guy running interference for trump, doesnt even read the documents he request.

people talk about perjury traps, without realizing that Trump traps himself every time he tweets or calls in to fox and friends.

how many different versions of this 130k payment are we gonna get from Trump and his team? every day it seems like they change it up.

i mean damn bro, maybe you should HIT the pipe, cause only a trump supporter would think that jr's meeting was about russian adoption.

remember that one? that was a hilarious excuse they tried to pull.


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Warrants don't get issued without evidence. Manafort's attorney tried to ask why Manaforts case wasn't kicked to the NY AG like Cohen's case was because none of the charges were Russian Collusion or Obstruction related... The answer was basically that there were strong ties to the Russian Collusion part of the investigation. Hmmm.



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LOL I do from time to time, love some good crippy man. Makes me fall asleep after a stressful day. I don't drink so...

Told ya man, we agree on some things thumbsup

I can give a damn about Stormy Daniels....

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i dont care about him smashing a pornstar and paying her off either.

the problem isnt the payment, the problem is where did it come from.

and even then, i highly doubt cohen got raided by the feds over a hush money payment. there's way more going on than what any of us commoners know about.


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Warrants don't get issued without evidence. Manafort's attorney tried to ask why Manaforts case wasn't kicked to the NY AG like Cohen's case was because none of the charges were Russian Collusion or Obstruction related... The answer was basically that there were strong ties to the Russian Collusion part of the investigation. Hmmm.


You're right OCD, but isn't that evidence being questioned? I recall a glove showing up behind OJ's house....

Difference between me and a lot of you guys, I don't trust anything about this hate based investigation.

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I see you say a lot without any evidence to back it up. You do know that many cases are re-opened later and convicted, right? You also do know that the only way a case can't be re-opened is if that case was tried and the accused was found not guilty, right?


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Again Pit, thanks for the education. Now tell me SPECIFICALLY why the case was reopened.

You're confusing me with PDF

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interesting

GOP lawmaker: Mueller should be allowed to follow Russia probe 'wherever it takes him'

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/38633...obe-wherever-it

GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) said this week that special counsel Robert Mueller should be allowed to follow his investigation into Russian meddling “wherever it takes him.”

In an interview with the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, Murkowski said she “firmly” believes that Trump should not be permitted to “meddle” in the investigation.

“I believe very, very firmly in that. And I think any efforts to thwart that are dangerous,” she said. “If the investigation takes them to an additional turn that needs to be followed, I think this is what we're asking for when we ask for an independent investigation.”


”That means that the president can't meddle,” she added. “That means that the attorney general can't meddle. That means that the United States Senate can't meddle.”

Murkowski also diverted from Trump’s claims that the probe is a “witch hunt,” and said that she would support legislation intended to protect Mueller from the president.

"I do not subscribe that this is some kind of a witch hunt," she told the paper.

She also praised the FBI’s “serious and significant role” in the investigation, and expressed concern that Trump’s rhetoric attacking the agency is hurting morale among agents.

“I’m worried about the morale of the agency and their ability to do their job and to do their job independent, as I think most of us believe that they should be acting, and not being influenced by the politics of the moment or the administration," she said.


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Warrants don't get issued without evidence. Manafort's attorney tried to ask why Manaforts case wasn't kicked to the NY AG like Cohen's case was because none of the charges were Russian Collusion or Obstruction related... The answer was basically that there were strong ties to the Russian Collusion part of the investigation. Hmmm.


You're right OCD, but isn't that evidence being questioned? I recall a glove showing up behind OJ's house....

Difference between me and a lot of you guys, I don't trust anything about this hate based investigation.


Hate based? Yep. Americans hate having their elections corrupted by buffoons and Russians.

The real hate here is the right who elected a traitorous president hating on the left for expecting the facts and truth from our leaders. The hate is then compounded by the right's all out war on the integrity of the FBI, AGs Office, and Justice department of the USA. I guess the most honorable people in our government have all suddenly formed a group to pull off a coup d'etat. Puh-lease. GMAB.

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You mean treason like this?

John Kerry under fire for reported 'shadow diplomacy' to save Iran deal

Former Secretary of State John Kerry is under fire over a report claiming that he has been engaged in “shadow diplomacy” with officials from Iran and Europe as part of a final attempt to save the seemingly doomed 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

The Boston Globe reported Friday that Kerry sat down twice with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif in recent months to strategize in a bid to save the deal, as part of what the Globe described as “an aggressive yet stealthy” mission to put pressure on the Trump administration to keep the deal in some form.

Kerry’s reported actions immediately sparked criticism and raised claims that such dealings with Iranian and European officials could violate the Logan Act.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/...-iran-deal.html

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good.

i hope Kerry succeeds in saving these idiots from themselves.

lost in the fake outrage is the fact that the european leadership willingly met with Kerry.

that should tell everyone what our allies thinks of trump's negotiating "skills".

make a separate thread about it.


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You mean treason like this?

John Kerry under fire for reported 'shadow diplomacy' to save Iran deal

Former Secretary of State John Kerry is under fire over a report claiming that he has been engaged in “shadow diplomacy” with officials from Iran and Europe as part of a final attempt to save the seemingly doomed 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

The Boston Globe reported Friday that Kerry sat down twice with Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif in recent months to strategize in a bid to save the deal, as part of what the Globe described as “an aggressive yet stealthy” mission to put pressure on the Trump administration to keep the deal in some form.

Kerry’s reported actions immediately sparked criticism and raised claims that such dealings with Iranian and European officials could violate the Logan Act.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/...-iran-deal.html


It should be investigated and if he is guilty he should hang for it. Same with Trump.

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good.

i hope Kerry succeeds in saving these idiots from themselves.

lost in the fake outrage is the fact that the european leadership willingly met with Kerry.

that should tell everyone what our allies thinks of trump's negotiating "skills".

make a separate thread about it.


"Kerry working with foreign governments to save the flawed #IranDeal certainly raises Logan Act questions. Plus, imagine if former Sec. Rice had done this to Obama. What would the reaction have been?"
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Hate based?


Yep....you prove the hate with the rest of your post;

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The real hate here is the right who elected a traitorous president hating on the left for expecting the facts and truth from our leaders. The hate is then compounded by the right's all out war on the integrity of the FBI, AGs Office, and Justice department of the USA. I guess the most honorable people in our government have all suddenly formed a group to pull off a coup d'etat. Puh-lease. GMAB.


Hmmm where are all those HONORABLE people now? Lisa Page, Peter Strock (sp) Comey...etc...


Hatred towards Trump started this period!

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Hate based?


Yep....you prove the hate with the rest of your post;

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The real hate here is the right who elected a traitorous president hating on the left for expecting the facts and truth from our leaders. The hate is then compounded by the right's all out war on the integrity of the FBI, AGs Office, and Justice department of the USA. I guess the most honorable people in our government have all suddenly formed a group to pull off a coup d'etat. Puh-lease. GMAB.


Hmmm where are all those HONORABLE people now? Lisa Page, Peter Strock (sp) Comey...etc...


Hatred towards Trump started this period!


Page and Strock's text prove that they disliked Trump's candidacy like 60% of the rest of America did. I have yet to see proof of any actions taken by them to prevent Trump from being elected. Just a bunch of cons butt hurt because they don't like dear leader.

Comey should never have been fired for the true reasons he was fired. And I'm not saying Comey did nothing wrong, but Trump fired him over Russian Investigation pressure.

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Hmmm where are all those HONORABLE people now? Lisa Page, Peter Strock (sp) Comey...etc...


Hatred towards Trump started this period!


When Trump was angry with his first wife, he paid his mistress $250K to give a quote to the Post saying Trump was good at sex, and then brought his mistress along to ski with his wife and the mother of children.

I could go on and on, but the idea that Trump is "honorable" is a hundred times more laughable than the idea that Trump isn't an obvious moron blathering incoherently.

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Also, you made the insane claim that "Trump is right more than he's wrong".

Can you name a single time he's been right?

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good.

i hope Kerry succeeds in saving these idiots from themselves.

lost in the fake outrage is the fact that the european leadership willingly met with Kerry.

that should tell everyone what our allies thinks of trump's negotiating "skills".

make a separate thread about it.


"Kerry working with foreign governments to save the flawed #IranDeal certainly raises Logan Act questions. Plus, imagine if former Sec. Rice had done this to Obama. What would the reaction have been?"
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I wonder where Kerry’s gonna get the cash to buy the Iranians off this time .... thumbsdown ...




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Also, you made the insane claim that "Trump is right more than he's wrong".

Can you name a single time he's been right?


PDF you are nothing but a joke and a waste of time. I have a few seconds to waste on you so here goes;

Fox News P.O.S. Sheppard Smith; Trump says his Tower was wire tapped, he has no evidence mind you. Smith belittled him on air. Alas, the Tower was wire tapped. Still waiting for an apology Smith.

There's your one man now go get bent.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
good.

i hope Kerry succeeds in saving these idiots from themselves.

lost in the fake outrage is the fact that the european leadership willingly met with Kerry.

that should tell everyone what our allies thinks of trump's negotiating "skills".

make a separate thread about it.


"Kerry working with foreign governments to save the flawed #IranDeal certainly raises Logan Act questions. Plus, imagine if former Sec. Rice had done this to Obama. What would the reaction have been?"
-Marco Rubio



I wonder where Kerry’s gonna get the cash to buy the Iranians off this time .... thumbsdown ...



Wanna place a wager on who sent Kerry?
Seems someone got that third term in office they wanted.
SHAME!

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