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Trump administration ends protections for 57,000 Hondurans


Alan Gomez, USA TODAY Published 3:04 p.m. ET May 4, 2018 | Updated 3:30 p.m. ET May 4, 2018

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...rans/572528002/

The Trump administration on Friday ended a special immigration program for 57,000 Hondurans who have legally lived and worked in the U.S. for two decades, giving them 18 months to leave the country.

The announcement is the latest step by the administration to phase out Temporary Protected Status (TPS), which is granted to foreign nationals whose countries are decimated by hurricanes, earthquakes and civil wars.

By cutting off TPS for Hondurans, the administration has now ended the program for 98% of the roughly 317,000 immigrants from six countries who had been legally residing in the U.S., some for nearly 30 years.

Honduras was first granted TPS in 1999 after Hurricane Mitch devastated the Central American nation. The Department of Homeland Security concluded that conditions in Honduras have improved to the point that the country is ready to absorb the return of tens of thousands of citizens.

The Honduran Embassy and supporters argue the country has been besieged by gang violence and drug cartels, which is already prompting tens of thousands of Hondurans to flee north to find refuge in the U.S. Adding so many more people, they say, will only make matters worse.

"Forcing their return to a country that is wracked by endemic violence and poverty will put their lives in danger, separate families, and have devastating effects on communities both in Honduras and the United States," said Sister Patricia McDermott, president of the Sisters of Mercy of the Americas.

Hondurans who had benefited from the program must now decide by January 2020 whether to return to their home countries, or remain in the U.S. as undocumented immigrants.



Complicating that decision is the fact that those Hondurans have given birth to about 53,500 children, all U.S. citizens, according to estimates from the Center for American Progress. Parents will have to decide whether to take their children to a country they've never known, leave them behind in the U.S., or stay as a unit in the U.S. constantly at risk of deportation.

Losing Hondurans with work permits will also cost the U.S. about $31 billion over 10 years, according to the Center for American Progress.

Temporary Protected Status was created by Congress in 1990 to allow people from countries that have been hit by natural disasters or armed conflicts to legally live in the U.S. while their home countries recover.

Haitians qualified for the status after the 2010 earthquake, Central American countries qualified after Hurricane Mitch ravaged several nations there in 1998, and people from Sudan qualified in 1997 after civil war overwhelmed their country.

Republican and Democratic presidents have extended these protections, concluding that each of the countries on the list had not recovered enough to absorb tens of thousands more residents. The Trump administration has taken a different approach, arguing that the program has been extended too many times and that conditions have improved enough in each country to end the emergency designations.

One by one, the administration has ended TPS for Nicaraguans, Sudanese, Haitians, Salvadorans and Hondurans. It also ended a similar program for about 745 Liberians last month.

The president's supporters have cheered each decision by repeating a common phrase: "T" is for "temporary." In a White House speech this month, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen said it's time to wind down the program.

"We ended so-called temporary immigration programs that were either constitutionally dubious or were administered in a manner that was inconsistent with the purpose of the law or contrary to the intent of Congress," she said.

Defenders of the program say that cold calculation may be accurate, but it ignores the hundreds of thousands of families who will be devastated if they must leave the U.S. They argue that it would've been understandable to end the TPS designations after two or three years but that it's cruel to do so after 20 or 30 years.

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The Trump administration on Friday ended a special immigration program for 57,000 Hondurans who have legally lived and worked in the U.S. for two decades, giving them 18 months to leave the country.

The announcement is the latest step by the administration to phase out Temporary Protected Status (TPS), which is granted to foreign nationals whose countries are decimated by hurricanes, earthquakes and civil wars.

By cutting off TPS for Hondurans, the administration has now ended the program for 98% of the roughly 317,000 immigrants from six countries who had been legally residing in the U.S., some for nearly 30 years.

This is a major flaw in our system.. you should not be able to live a country for decades or "nearly 30 years" under a program called TEMPORARY Protected Status...

I'm not opposed to taking in immigrants or refugees but if you are going to bring them in, then make it a damn path toward citizenship, not a program where they live in limbo for the rest of their lives...

That said, Trump ending the program without providing for the people who are already here is ice cold and serves no purpose.


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yea!!! kick those brown people out!!!

america is for WHITE PEOPLE ONLY!!


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Originally Posted By: Swish
yea!!! kick those brown people out!!!

america is for WHITE PEOPLE ONLY!!



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The Trump administration on Friday ended a special immigration program for 57,000 Hondurans who have legally lived and worked in the U.S. for two decades, giving them 18 months to leave the country.

The announcement is the latest step by the administration to phase out Temporary Protected Status (TPS), which is granted to foreign nationals whose countries are decimated by hurricanes, earthquakes and civil wars.

By cutting off TPS for Hondurans, the administration has now ended the program for 98% of the roughly 317,000 immigrants from six countries who had been legally residing in the U.S., some for nearly 30 years.

This is a major flaw in our system.. you should not be able to live a country for decades or "nearly 30 years" under a program called TEMPORARY Protected Status...

I'm not opposed to taking in immigrants or refugees but if you are going to bring them in, then make it a damn path toward citizenship, not a program where they live in limbo for the rest of their lives...

That said, Trump ending the program without providing for the people who are already here is ice cold and serves no purpose.


Disagree.
If you bring in Hurricane victims from other countries "Temporarily", then home they go afterwards.
They do not need a path to citizenship, they need to go home eventually.

Now I also think many of you miss what is actually going on here with the Trumpster.

During the campaign he said we need to fix immigration.
He tried but Congress does not have the will to take it on, especially the Democrats.

So now Trump is basically saying ok, then it falls on me to do something about it. Everybody out of the pool! The program is ended so go home.

Now everyone is crying. What a mean man! He is ice cold!
He is doing this because of the Caravan from Honduras!

Now if I know my Trumpster, he is waiting for the crying to die down and the Congress to begin to act on these matters.
Let the negotiations begin. Again.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
yea!!! kick those brown people out!!!

america is for WHITE PEOPLE ONLY!!


I don't think so. My Daughter in law is 50 percent white, and 50 percent black. Which makes my grandaughter 50 percent "Who gives a firetruck"


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Originally Posted By: Vambo
Originally Posted By: Swish
yea!!! kick those brown people out!!!

america is for WHITE PEOPLE ONLY!!





YOU have a lot of gall. ^Definition of Irony.

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YOU have a lot of gall. ^Definition of Irony.


Now the " I know you are but what am I" ...

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YOU have a lot of gall. ^Definition of Irony.


Now the " I know you are but what am I" ...


Yes because I retreat to that all the time... Calling you what you deserve gets me banned. So I will just say this, an argument with you is literally child's play. You engage in a witless battle of the wits against the left and wonder why we laugh at you. It's really just too pathetic to engage most days.

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You cry so well when Vambo beats you at your own game. rofl

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You cry so well when Vambo beats you at your own game. rofl


Only a Trump supporter would consider that winning.

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In TrumpWorld, this makes total sense. Gotta make room for all those Nowegians who don't want to come here.


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In TrumpWorld, this makes total sense. Gotta make room for all those Nowegians who don't want to come here.


Only in your world TEMPORARY means permanent. saywhat

"phase out Temporary Protected Status"

Not sure where you people get color of skin and Nowegians?

Guilty feelings perhaps?

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I never mentioned skin color at all.

Honduras and Norway are countries.
Assume much?
Of course you do.

But please.... let's all look ^^^up^^^ at that nice little quote near the roof of my post to see who actually did...

... mention skin color.
... and 'you people.'

Sit down and take your lesson.

You got triggered and played at the same time.
Because you hoisted up the original post as bait in the first place... exposing your original intent- before even one post was added to the thread. I was on to you when you dropped this steaming pile in the first place. I just decided to wait my time. And use your own words/motivations to expose you.

chess/tic-tac-toe.

You make this stuff look easy.


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Well whatever could that mean? smdh

Some people don't even try to hide it.

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and sadly, some other people don't even realize it's actually a thing.

That's how much work remains.

For folks who seem genuinely interested in hearing about another American's experience, I'm pretty much an open book. I want them to understand WHY I see my country as I do... in hopes that they will see their country from a wider lens by having known me. They in turn become a new story that helps me readjust my own focus, as well. It's how everybody learns... and raises the tide that lifts all boats.

For folks who only want to SlamDance on a superficial level: I'll play that from time to time, as well.

I'd rather do the former.



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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
and sadly, some other people don't even realize it's actually a thing.

That's how much work remains.



Clem, to be honest I had to go through that transformation. That's why it's become very personal to me. I was never a hardcore bigot like the white supremacists and Trumps of the world, but I was raised in an environment where slights like "you people" were commonplace and nobody ever even knew how offensive they were.

Fortunately my path in life gave me a very diverse set of friends and acquaintances and I was able to grow as a person by learning from the errors of my ways. Imagine feeling like a good person but finding out the your words and actions that were meant to be innocent can hurt another deeply. This is when you either change your ways and grow, or just decide to be a bigot.

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If all of us are living as we should, we should all be saying this about whatever individual weaknesses our souls have. Self-improvement is a product of commitment. It is a discipline, to be applied daily, as one would his trade or profession. The positive spiritual results are always the product of hard work.

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Well whatever could that mean? smdh

Some people don't even try to hide it.


You people as in the people on this board using skin color as a reason..."yea!!! kick those brown people out!!!

america is for WHITE PEOPLE ONLY!!
But this is OK but you people is not. saywhat

I guess you'll have the PC people where you have to watch every word as not to be taken as a slur some people try to nick pick.

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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Not sure where you people get color of skin and Nowegians?



I never mentioned skin color at all.

Honduras and Norway are countries.
Assume much?
Of course you do.

But please.... let's all look ^^^up^^^ at that nice little quote near the roof of my post to see who actually did...

... mention skin color.
... and 'you people.'

Sit down and take your lesson.

You got triggered and played at the same time.
Because you hoisted up the original post as bait in the first place... exposing your original intent- before even one post was added to the thread. I was on to you when you dropped this steaming pile in the first place. I just decided to wait my time. And use your own words/motivations to expose you.

chess/tic-tac-toe.

You make this stuff look easy.



If you didn't mention skin color why did you say this?..."Gotta make room for all those Nowegians"


Actually this thread is about the immigration issue some people try to make it about race.

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So, Clem, when you clearly implied that the government was prepared to boot out many South American immigrants, helpfully and of course non-racially identified as "brown people", and would prefer to replace them with people from Norway, them there "nowegians", which would be a people nearly universally identified and understood to be almost exclusively blond-haired, blue-eyed, stereotypical examples of "white people", what precisely other than skin color was the difference you were intending to highlight?

Are there different work ethics or religious affiliations that would significantly affect their suitability for immigration?

Some other factor, perhaps?

Your claim is BS. You were referring to skin color. It is transparent as glass.

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What?

You don't recognize your own President's sentiments? When he talked about 'ess'-hole countries, he wondered why we couldn't get people from...

...Norway.

And we all know your POTUS is the "least racist person you'll ever meet."


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
What?

You don't recognize your own President's sentiments? When he talked about 'ess'-hole countries, he wondered why we couldn't get people from...

...Norway.

And we all know your POTUS is the "least racist person you'll ever meet."



That's it?
He wasn't referring to educational, professional and skill levels in crap hole countries compared to other countries?

Ever see Honduras?
Ever see Guatemala or Haiti?
Ever see France or Italy or Norway?

He was referring to brown skinned people?

Hate truly blinds.

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What?

You don't recognize your own President's sentiments? When he talked about 'ess'-hole countries, he wondered why we couldn't get people from...

...Norway.

And we all know your POTUS is the "least racist person you'll ever meet."



That's it?
He wasn't referring to educational, professional and skill levels in crap hole countries compared to other countries?

Ever see Honduras?
Ever see Guatemala or Haiti?
Ever see France or Italy or Norway?

He was referring to brown skinned people?

Hate truly blinds.




He's a well-documented racist. He's been fined repeatedly for his racist business practices. He's said out loud that he doesn't trust black people handling his money.

When a guy has a long history of vile racist words and actions, it's not hard to parse what he meant when he said he wanted more immigrants from places like Norway.

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So, you are saying that your comment was NOT mentioning skin color, because Trump's very similar comment WAS?

Is establishing the degree and extent of racism in every single human utterance the sole item of importance in any discussion or action of any kind?

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So, you are saying that your comment was NOT mentioning skin color, because Trump's very similar comment WAS?

Is establishing the degree and extent of racism in every single human utterance the sole item of importance in any discussion or action of any kind?

"What color shoes are you wearing?"


Why are you making it sound like trivial nitpicking?

Trump is undeniably very racist, and a terrible human being by any metric. I get that you guys have to stumble and stammer to pretend he isn't, but I've never understood the "mountain of a molehill" thing you all limply trot out.

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So, you are saying that your comment was NOT mentioning skin color, because Trump's very similar comment WAS?

Is establishing the degree and extent of racism in every single human utterance the sole item of importance in any discussion or action of any kind?

"What color shoes are you wearing?"


Why are you making it sound like trivial nitpicking?

Trump is undeniably very racist, and a terrible human being by any metric. I get that you guys have to stumble and stammer to pretend he isn't, but I've never understood the "mountain of a molehill" thing you all limply trot out.



Sweden to fly 80,000 immigrants out of the country in chartered jets, as minister says almost HALF of all asylum claims of migrants who make it there are rejected

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...e-rejected.html


The minister must be racist. saywhat

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Israel orders African refugees to leave country within three months or face prison

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...t-a8138961.html


Norway's tough-love approach to the refugee crisis

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/norway-is-hard-on-migrants-but-tough-love-works/

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Israel orders African refugees to leave country within three months or face prison

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...t-a8138961.html


Norway's tough-love approach to the refugee crisis

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/norway-is-hard-on-migrants-but-tough-love-works/



You should really post news stories as they happen lmao

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So, Clem, when you clearly implied that the government was prepared to boot out many South American immigrants, helpfully and of course non-racially identified as "brown people", and would prefer to replace them with people from Norway, them there "nowegians", which would be a people nearly universally identified and understood to be almost exclusively blond-haired, blue-eyed, stereotypical examples of "white people", what precisely other than skin color was the difference you were intending to highlight?

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Are there different work ethics or religious affiliations that would significantly affect their suitability for immigration?



From the same post. I am dead.

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Originally Posted By: Nelson37
So, Clem, when you clearly implied that the government was prepared to boot out many South American immigrants, helpfully and of course non-racially identified as "brown people", and would prefer to replace them with people from Norway, them there "nowegians", which would be a people nearly universally identified and understood to be almost exclusively blond-haired, blue-eyed, stereotypical examples of "white people", what precisely other than skin color was the difference you were intending to highlight?

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Are there different work ethics or religious affiliations that would significantly affect their suitability for immigration?


From the same post. I am dead.


The funniest part is that they're seemingly oblivious to their obvious racism.

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It's not about skin color. It's about culture. See? No racism involved.

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It's not about skin color. It's about culture. See? No racism involved.


"Are they lazy or Muslim?".

I laughed out loud.

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Perhaps the schoolteacher and the former professional writer could identify exactly what they are congratulating themselves for?

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Perhaps the schoolteacher and the former professional writer could identify exactly what they are congratulating themselves for?


Congratulating yourself and making jokes are two different things no matter how hard the White House Correspondence's beg to differ.

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Perhaps the schoolteacher and the former professional writer could identify exactly what they are congratulating themselves for?


Still a professional writer, chief.

And we're not congratulating each other, we're mocking you.

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