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There were reports that the Ravens were also trying to get him.

I'm glad we beat them to it.

Providing a different view/opinion isn't always arguing. A concept often lost on this board, unfortunately.

When I think of Corey Coleman as a WR, I remember 4th and 2 vs the Steelers. Around their 30 yard line. Down by 4. Inside 2 minutes. Kizer throws one on the money to an open Coleman. Through the hands and off the face. Locks up the 0-16.

Until he does something to overshadow that, that is how I see Corey Coleman.

Let's get over the bashing of Landry and questioning why the Fins didn't keep him.

It was simply a matter of them being somewhat pressed against the cap and having to make hard decisions.

We had the cap to spare, so it worked out to our good. Give it another 2-3 years, we are going to face some of those same decisions.


Heck, we probably will next year. Do we sign Gordon or not? We probably trade Gordon before we do Coleman.

As for Coleman, I see no need to give up on the kid at this point. He has flashed when healthy. He has had 2 broken hands. I see that as more a freak injury than a chronic condition like always pulling a hammy.


My theory is that once a player is drafted, let them play out. Maybe the guy we drafted in round one doesn't live up to the draft position. If he is still a good player, take it for what it is rather than what you think think it should have been.

I always go back to Gerard Warren. We picked him #3 in the 1st round. It wasn't his fault we did that. He did go on to play maybe 15 years as a starter on every team he played for, besides us.....I think Denver, the Raiders, and New England. He was a good solid NFL starter, but we had the expectations he was going to be the next Warren Sapp or Joe Green.


Maybe he wasn't that, but none the less, he was a solid player who had a long career as a starter for multiple teams.

Wow, I don't see that at all. Gordon will be an RFA next off-season. I see no way we trade him at this point, not after waiting for him to straighten out, now that it appears that he just might have done so.

As Spotrac puts it, if Landry was a disaster for some reason or Cleveland just didn’t want to pay him any more, his contract comes down to being 2 years, $34 million guaranteed. After that, the team can, in essence, opt out (as is the case with many NFL contracts).

WHO CARES why Miami gave him away ... i could CARE LESS weather they gave him away cause they thought he wasn’t good or cause they couldn’t afford him ...

I’m just THRILLED HE’S HERE ....

This dudes a VERY GOOD WR ... i could care less if hes a slot reciever either ... label him however u want the MAN CAN PLAY ... he’s a weapon guys ... hes not gonna take it to the house from any where on the field .. but hes gonna keep them damm chains moving ... u best account for him ... if not, you’ll pay over the course of the afternoon ... i imagine a lot of DC’s at some point in the 2nd half are mumbling “ him again ” ...

Man .. i just don’t get it ... some folks are NEVER HAPPY (not u ... although in the grumpy department u aren’t exactly aging well ... ... ) ..... he also just happens to be just what the doctor ordered for one Mr. Gordon ...

Anyone know what i like most about him .....

HE CATCHES THE F’N BALL!!!!!!!!!!!

but the cost!!!!

Seems OK to disagree or see the same thing differently.

Just a reminder or few: The Fish's loss is our gain, arguably until we prove otherwise with Landry. Moving the chains regularly is considered the norm for many clubs. And finally, I checked, it is still OK to use vets effectively, and it is still OK to win games, even in the Land.

I do not care who wins us games. But I am up for a "shock and awe" season after the "none for all" outing we insisted on putting together.

You know I have the same play and the same memory burnt into my brain .... and I agree he is on notice to show us or leave.

That said I always had high hopes for the kid, and while he's struggled with some hand injuries and issues, and he's struggled to be consistent - he has shown flashes of game changing play making. I think we'd be totally foolish to let him go and trade him at this point. He's never had consistent QB play, or a WR group that opened up the field like (potentially) Gordon, Landry and Callaway does. Gordon Callaway and Coleman are all fast - 4.40 speed - and my gut says Haley is going to find a way to use those guys to showcase their strengths.

Agreed. I'll add one more thing. I said it then and I'll say it now, he should never have been taken that high.

The cost for Landry was what? A 4th round pick (and the salary)?

If we were lucky in the 4th round, we get a good backup and ST player

but... but... the CAP!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, its the nature of the beast bro ...

If u want quality your going to have to overpay ....

He cost a lot cause he CATCHES THE F’N BALL!!!!! .... had to get it in ... ...

No doubt it will be nice having a reliable chain mover working underneath.

First Down!! Here we go Brownies, here we go

j/c

When it comes to Landry maybe I'm missing something. We needed impact players. Proven impact players. We got one. No skeletons in the closet, good hands and a reliable player. I have no clue what there is to complain about. This was yet another poor WR class and we avoided the trap we fell into in 2016.

When it comes to Coleman we can show a strong case for why we went out and got a WR in the FA market like Landry. Coleman shows what happens when you force a high draft pick in a poor WR draft class. Landry is the perfect example of how you avoid doing that.

Agreed. How novel; a Browns WR that can actually catch the ball.

Ya, u are ... BIGLY ....



U missin da fact that man has GREAT HANDS ... not good hands but GREAT HANDS ...

Get it, got it, GOOOOOOD ...

Now repeat after me ....

HE CATCHES THE F’N BALL!!!!!!

are you saying he can catch a football?

He has big hands too.

His combine hand measurement was 10.25". Those are some serious mitts.

wow.. how big are colemens? 4 inch nubbs?

9"

Ironically .... the same size as Antonio Brown.

You are probably right. That was a last moment comment to my broader comment. We are going to have some decisions to make.

only catch like there 4 inch nubbs then?

Coleman looked very good at the beginning of last season. Breaking his hand again set him back. I'm not giving up on him, I think if healthy, he can be good.

it's imperative he stay healthy during TC and be available

Agreed. He needs to be healthy during training camp so he can gel with this offense.

This is year three, the year that makes or breaks WRs IMO.


From what I've seen, it's confusing. He showed promise his rookie year before the hand injury and never got back in rhythm afterwards. Since then, he hasn't impressed in my book.

For a guy who was supposed to be so athletic, he simply isn't getting separation. He's shown a knack for making some tough catches (but then he also drops the ball at critical times).

But the biggest thing is, he's a poor route runner. For all that speed and toughness he's supposed to have, he isn't getting open. It's been very disappointing so far. Hopefully things click this year as he matures and sees more of the game.

Because, as was said, this is a big one for the guy

He was not getting much separation but he was laying out to make some good catches. You can't guard when a WR is doing that on top of the QB having the trust. IMO, one more injury and that'll about do it for me. However, *IF* Gordon and Calloway can stay straight with Juice Landry - he may not even get much time anyway. He hasn't done anything to prove much other than being cautious with soft tissue injuries and others.

j/c

I'm curious to see what the new WR coach does with these guys.

I think Coleman is going to have a career resurgence BUT he won't be able to put up the numbers to show it.

He's going to be the runt of the litter only eating after Gordon, Landry, Njoku and DJ eat.

Could be. Interesting thought.


Just to counter, maybe he is the guy the other team doesn't cover up as tightly and he thrives.


Either way, I think we are in pretty good shape in the passing game.

I hope Njoku takes a big step. I haven't really paid attention to how Taylor used his TE option with the Bills.

Last year Taylor targeted Charles Clay 74 times in the 13 games that Clay played. Clay caught 49 for 558 yds (11.4), with 2 TDs.

Don't forget Hyde was also a big part of the passing game in SF as well. He's going to get his fair share of catches too.

I don't think any 1 pass catcher is going to put up a big number of catches because there are just going to be too many mouths to feed. Coleman is going to at least start off at a disadvantage unless he put a lot of work into his route tree in the offseason.

would not be surprised to see Coleman traded in the preseason especially if another team loses a starter in the middle of August
Dorsey already jettisoned one under achiever to New England
trading Coleman would not be shocking to a team like Dallas or Green Bay

Nobody mentions Devalve... It is all Njoku, Njoku, Njoku. Devalve was second on the team in catches last year; Is he still on the roster ?

Devalve isnt all that. the Browns barely had any downfield threats last season and Devalve was a checkdown option.
i felt he went down easy on 1st contact and is not one to break tackles or really blow past safties or OLBs.
hes really over rated around here

But, he made tremendous improvement from his rookie year to his second year.

What's to say he won't improve some more this year?


I like Devalve. I think he'll do fine, but he's going to have to make the most of his opportunities when they come. Same with Coleman.

It's been mentioned on here by some other posters, but is something i completely agree with.


The best way to get these players more catches (and carries) is to have more successful drives. The more our offense has the ball by generating 1st downs and keeping drives alive, the more opportunities our players will have.


That and the more stops our defense makes (obviously). But the offense doing better, will be better for everyone as a whole. Generally how it works

No doubt that moving the chains and making defensive stops increases the number of offensive plays run.