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My nicknames were not ethnic related. Before facial hair and mostly my Black friends would call me Cochise. After facial hair...Serpico. College a couple different ones. EO being one of them and TAB was in HS for a special few.
Duke, not to minimize him as a runner. I just like to note to all he was our TOP WR for 2016 and 2017 - he is something special out in space. Not blinding speed but can break anyone's ankles. Great explosion. I would love to see him out in the slot or even wide. It doesn't mean we can't utilize him in some Jet Sweeps or even cut them up off tackle. But for me...the Running game will be in the hands of Hyde and Chubb.
Please look up Charlie Taylor. I see a similar future for Duke. Also it would lengthen his career to his 10-15 seasons if he keeps in great shape. Wear and tear as a WR is no where close to that of a RB. Actually I hope he takes on the role that we should of had Metcalf play in!
jmho...I love Duke and think he can become a HOF WR. Not many WR can do what he does AFTER HE CATCHES THE BALL and he sure can CATCH!
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I always thought that he would be deadly on screen passes, especially center screens. With TT, some throwbacks and such where he gets a wide open ball could be special. But our chuckleheads do not seem to be able to dial up space for him or to get him outside. I sure hope to see a differing palette of offensive plays this season.
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Assume that was a joke right?
For the record I believe he spelled it Charley Taylor
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Duke can become a hall of fame receiver?
I think that Duke Johnson is in his nitch as a RB that presents a matchup with a LBer in coverage. Thats is something that doesn't need fixing imo ...
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I think Johnson will make the ProBowl this year. With competent QB play, and recievers that require attention, I look for Duke to be the star of this offense. JMHO
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I think Johnson will make the ProBowl this year. With competent QB play, and recievers that require attention, I look for Duke to be the star of this offense. JMHO I don't think he will ONLY on account that Hyde and Chubb will each need carries and he just won't simply get enough. Now... maybe Todd does what everyone hasn't and increases his reps and etc, but then can Duke's body be expected to be prolonged?
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I think Johnson will make the ProBowl this year. With competent QB play, and recievers that require attention, I look for Duke to be the star of this offense. JMHO I don't think he will ONLY on account that Hyde and Chubb will each need carries and he just won't simply get enough. Now... maybe Todd does what everyone hasn't and increases his reps and etc, but then can Duke's body be expected to be prolonged? I predict that Hyde will only be here one season (I think we can basically get rid of him with nothing owed). That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
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That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
But is that a significant improvement from Duke and Crow? I think that may be a retrograde step and don't immediately see how that helps us... 
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That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
But is that a significant improvement from Duke and Crow? I think that may be a retrograde step and don't immediately see how that helps us... it obviously just depends how Chubb turns out. He might be better than Crow.
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I think Chubb can be better than Crow. In Crows defense, he never really got the carries.
That said, Hyde, Chubb, and Duke make a pretty solid backfield. We will probably keep Vitale, and one of other backs....Dayes? Not sure who else is on the roster.
I think there is a good chance that Dayes or whoever might make the final roster for a day or two, then get cut in favor of a more experienced back who was cut. Look for a Chiefs or Packers late cut to be picked up.
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I actually thought Dayes showed some promise, but I think he had some mental errors that indicated his lack of trust
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Duke can become a hall of fame receiver?
Again when I mention Duke I keep on bringing up Charley Taylor.
Charley Taylor was a RB his first two seasons with similar effect that Duke had. It was in his 3rd season that the Redskins switched him FULL TIME TO WR. It is what I'm asking of the Browns to do with Duke. In all my football knowledge I think he can become a great WR. He has great hands, runs great routes and he is amazing in space and can get YAC like only a RB can. Its a RB heaven...running against DBs. This will lengthen his career. He already has stated that he would love the transition to WR.
HOF...I threw that out there for the simple reason that Charley Taylor was elected into the HOF. I'm stating that Duke can mirror the career of Charley Taylor, why not include the end result HOF.
Is it possible, yep. Is there a link....nope If you do not provide me with the venue to state HOF career as pure speculation. Then you are also TELLING every poster on this board, don't you dare state HOF career in describing a player cause according to you it is not allowed.
Or is that just for me?
So to answer to your question ASSuming it was a real question and not just a chance to insult me.
YES, Duke can become a HOF WR. That comes with a lot of "IFs" involved starting with him being included in our WR corp. If he is he is our 3rd WR behind Gordon, Landry, then it would be Duke, Callaway, with Coleman who will not be on our roster come September. Somebody will eventually offer us a 2020 7th round pick for him and we will trade him or release him come September.
Is it my opinion. Am I going out on a limb and having much speculation? Sure. Am I to be mocked by that. Why?
Do I know it will be happening...Nope. But I'm making a statement.
If we indeed do that. Whether by name (WR) or still list him as RB...I think our leading WR for the 2016 and 2017 campaigns deserves a shot as our #3 WR...can care less what he is listed as in position groups. As long as he gets to go into the WR meetings as well as RBs...fine with me.
On record if a full time WR...I think over time he can have a HOF career at the position! Laugh at me all you want, Mock me all you want. I said what I believe and in the end...my reasons of football are sound and logical.
Hope that answers your question. I indeed don't expect you to agree but please don't just mock me. Give me football reasoning. Your choice.
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I think Johnson will make the ProBowl this year. With competent QB play, and recievers that require attention, I look for Duke to be the star of this offense. JMHO I don't think he will ONLY on account that Hyde and Chubb will each need carries and he just won't simply get enough. Now... maybe Todd does what everyone hasn't and increases his reps and etc, but then can Duke's body be expected to be prolonged? I predict that Hyde will only be here one season (I think we can basically get rid of him with nothing owed). That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch It's definitely a situation I can see happening. I was making a comment about the poster's comment regarding Duke, the pro bowl and this year though. We have too many quality chefs in the kitchen IMO to think Duke would get enough to warrant a pro bowl section. Chubb and Duke, now I can see it happening.
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I think there has been way too much talk about how Duke could be this or that or that he has been under-utilized.
I think he has been used almost perfectly. He's a situational player that excels out of the backfield or occasionally lining up in the slot or out wide.
Duke should NOT get many more touches. He is not physically capable of holding up. He's put up very nice numbers because he is being utilized properly.
He is a change of pace RB who can catch passes out of the backfield or if he lines up occasionally as a receiver. Thinking he can be the focal point of the offense and receive a ton of touches is delusional.
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I think there has been way too much talk about how Duke could be this or that or that he has been under-utilized.
I think he has been used almost perfectly. He's a situational player that excels out of the backfield or occasionally lining up in the slot or out wide.
Duke should NOT get many more touches. He is not physically capable of holding up. He's put up very nice numbers because he is being utilized properly.
He is a change of pace RB who can catch passes out of the backfield or if he lines up occasionally as a receiver. Thinking he can be the focal point of the offense and receive a ton of touches is delusional. I am curious what makes him incapable of holding up to more touches?
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That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
But is that a significant improvement from Duke and Crow? I think that may be a retrograde step and don't immediately see how that helps us... Wasn't Crow already gone in FA before the Draft? If so then your point is moot. I like Crow as a RB, but I Chubb too and I dont see him as a retrograde.
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That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
But is that a significant improvement from Duke and Crow? I think that may be a retrograde step and don't immediately see how that helps us... Wasn't Crow already gone in FA before the Draft? If so then your point is moot. I like Crow as a RB, but I Chubb too and I dont see him as a retrograde. Apparently I wasn't clear in stating my point which was that a Hyde-Chubb-Duke combo was superior to a Chubb-Duke pairing. Cutting Hyde was the "retrograde" I was referring to. My bad...
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That will leave Chubb and Duke as the 1-2 punch
But is that a significant improvement from Duke and Crow? I think that may be a retrograde step and don't immediately see how that helps us... Wasn't Crow already gone in FA before the Draft? If so then your point is moot. I like Crow as a RB, but I Chubb too and I dont see him as a retrograde. Apparently I wasn't clear in stating my point which was that a Hyde-Chubb-Duke combo was superior to a Chubb-Duke pairing. Cutting Hyde was the "retrograde" I was referring to. My bad... I think that having all three RBs makes us a stronger team. I agree 
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Agreed. I'm a believer in having 2 or 3 good running backs to keep them fresh and wear down a D late in the game. I also feel the same about rotating D linemen to keep them fresh to stop the run or pass rush. Whatever is needed late in the game.
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But how are we going to Hyde Chubbs Johnson?
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But how are we going to Hyde Chubbs Johnson? That's all on Chubb. He needs to show a little modesty. Just last week he decided to Schobert and Flash Gordon.
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But how are we going to Hyde Chubbs Johnson? 
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I am not going to make fun of you, but I think comparing him to Charley Taylor is a stretch.
Duke is 5'9". Charley was 6"3". Duke has 4.51 speed. I can't find any numbers on CT's speed, but I was alive when he played and he was one of the faster players in the league. Hard not to be in the 4.4's.
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We all like to make player comparisons, but in reality not one is fully alike. Some see certain characteristics in another light than others.
Making comparisons with Duke is fun, because he is a unique player in that in some ways you can look at his production and find others with similar production, but unlike the run of the mill RBs', it's more about what things he does in the process of his production that seem to be uniquely Duke.
I would like to see him get resigned before this coming season, so that there is no drama there.
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We all like to make player comparisons, but in reality not one is fully alike. Some see certain characteristics in another light than others.
Making comparisons with Duke is fun, because he is a unique player in that in some ways you can look at his production and find others with similar production, but unlike the run of the mill RBs', it's more about what things he does in the process of his production that seem to be uniquely Duke.
I would like to see him get resigned before this coming season, so that there is no drama there. I would like to get him locked up over the next few weeks as well. He is a weapon. I just don't know we are looking at him as a 5'9" wide receiver. He is a change of pace back who is better than your average change of pace back.
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He is a missmatch as we have used him.
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But how are we going to Hyde Chubbs Johnson? That's all on Chubb. He needs to show a little modesty. Just last week he decided to Schobert and Flash Gordon. Major, major props!
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But how are we going to Hyde Chubbs Johnson? That's all on Chubb. He needs to show a little modesty. Just last week he decided to Schobert and Flash Gordon. Major, major props! You guys got my crying lol
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I just hope they don't wind up Tanking for Dayes, like in years past.
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I haven't seen Chubb play as much as some of you. He seems like a pretty good back in the tackles; not sure about out of the backfield.
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I haven't seen Chubb play as much as some of you. He seems like a pretty good back in the tackles; not sure about out of the backfield. He didn't do it much at Georgia, although at the combine he supposedly looked good, and then from what I remember (Via Podcast) he was dropping passes at OTA's. But, keep in mind, it seemed like the Crow dropped a lot of passes his rookie year. He slowly got more comfortable catching the ball with time in the league. Something better for Chubb would be to make sure he shores up his blocking technique. He needs to make sure he knows the playbook, his assignment, and becomes a good blocker. That'll help him get on the field. Personally, while I'm very happy about the Nick Chubb pick, I'm hoping that so long as Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson are healthy, he can have time to learn the position before being thrust into an important role. Hyde is a tough runner, can block, and he can catch. Duke can do it all too (just can't handle the amount of carries that Hyde/Chubb can). We really have a strong backfield, which is a luxury when it comes to Chubb. Let's get the offense gelling and rolling and bring Chubb/Mayfield in slowly (or in Mayfield's case, later on, as the season continues)
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I haven't seen Chubb play as much as some of you. He seems like a pretty good back in the tackles; not sure about out of the backfield. He didn't do it much at Georgia, although at the combine he supposedly looked good, and then from what I remember (Via Podcast) he was dropping passes at OTA's. But, keep in mind, it seemed like the Crow dropped a lot of passes his rookie year. He slowly got more comfortable catching the ball with time in the league. Something better for Chubb would be to make sure he shores up his blocking technique. He needs to make sure he knows the playbook, his assignment, and becomes a good blocker. That'll help him get on the field. Personally, while I'm very happy about the Nick Chubb pick, I'm hoping that so long as Carlos Hyde and Duke Johnson are healthy, he can have time to learn the position before being thrust into an important role. Hyde is a tough runner, can block, and he can catch. Duke can do it all too (just can't handle the amount of carries that Hyde/Chubb can). We really have a strong backfield, which is a luxury when it comes to Chubb. Let's get the offense gelling and rolling and bring Chubb/Mayfield in slowly (or in Mayfield's case, later on, as the season continues) thanks for the run down. I trust your judgment; let's hope he turns out!
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The RB spot is the one position in the NFL where you can adapt quickly. If we didn't have Hyde, Chubb could start day 1.
Not worried about Chubb's ability to catch the ball. That's easy.
Biggest thing is making sure he can block; that is with any back.
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