If you truly valued his life then you would hold yourself accountable for child endangerment and his death.
Did my wife throw herself down the stairs, punch herself in the stomach, take poison to kill our child? No she did nothing to cause the miscarriage. Did I do anything to cause his death. Hell no.
Thanks for the disgusting comment though. Still love ya bro.
That's right. The same way an old person who dies of natural causes is not anybody's fault. But if the old person is shot, hit over the head with a hammer, or is stabbed with a knife and dies its murder.
That's right. The same way an old person who dies of natural causes is not anybody's fault. But if the old person is shot, hit over the head with a hammer, or is stabbed with a knife and dies its murder.
Or if a child dies from exposure to toxic mold, their parent would be held accountable. Yes, violently visceral crimes are horrendous, but so are crimes of slow violence, like being slowly injected with poison over a course of a month.
Or if a child dies from exposure to toxic mold, their parent would be held accountable. Yes, violently visceral crimes are horrendous, but so are crimes of slow violence, like being slowly injected with poison over a course of a month.
Anybody who slowly injects another person with poison over the course of a month and causes them to die is a murderer as well.
Or if a child dies from exposure to toxic mold, their parent would be held accountable. Yes, violently visceral crimes are horrendous, but so are crimes of slow violence, like being slowly injected with poison over a course of a month.
Anybody who slowly injects another person with poison over the course of a month and causes them to die is a murderer as well.
Agreed. and the people who do it, whether they're aware of the poisoning or not, should be held criminally accountable.
The point is that I honestly can’t disagree with parents who don’t want the burden of dealing with a mentally handicapped child.
Don't be so sure having a D.D. child is such a burden. It may be a blessing. Look bro I don't chime in when you talk about your military experience because I don't have the same experience you do, and I have no clue what I would be talking about.
I have an Aunt who is D.D. my wife has worked with folks who are D.D. for years. I have been around lots of them for all of my life. Many of them have such a love of life that they can be infectious to all those around them.
Again bro, I apllaud the people able to do it. If they choose to have a DD kid, then that’s amazing and I hope it all works out.
But I still support the people who also DONT want to have a DD kid.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
So back to this thread title, prohibiting certain words and speech, especially in doctoring and health wrangling, is OK? Is this something like a new PC with agenda party line - driven prohibitions?
This is denial of free speech.
Wow. The new hypocrisy. Do as I say, not as I do.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Did you seriously just equate miscarriage to murder?
No, not at all. I don't consider a fetus to be a human being, because it's scientifically not.
Miscarriage and abortion are completely and totally different topics. I disagree with abortion, but people can have their opinions one way or the other. There is no "opinion" to be had on miscarriage, and to compare the 2 shows how far you are willing to go to "win" an arguement.
If you truly valued his life then you would hold yourself accountable for child endangerment and his death.
I've tried to catch up but I have to admit, I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about... are you saying a parent should be held accountable for a miscarriage as if it was murder or intentional?
Miscarriage is literally known as spontaneous abortion. To say they're incomparable is being dishonest. If people want to call those who have abortions murderers, then they should handle their claims being taken seriously.
If you truly valued his life then you would hold yourself accountable for child endangerment and his death.
I've tried to catch up but I have to admit, I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about... are you saying a parent should be held accountable for a miscarriage as if it was murder or intentional?
I think that would be a very understanding position if you thought a fetus was a human being.
If you truly valued his life then you would hold yourself accountable for child endangerment and his death.
I've tried to catch up but I have to admit, I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about... are you saying a parent should be held accountable for a miscarriage as if it was murder or intentional?
I think that would be a very understanding position if you thought a fetus was a human being.
No, I think it's an asinine position unless the mother was on drugs or engaging in some dangerous activities that could cause the miscarriage.. If the mother is taking reasonably good care of herself and has a miscarriage then it is an unfortunate event, much like a child dying from SIDS or some other thing that is outside of the parents control...
Agreed. There are certainly some cases where enough environmental factors causes a miscarriage. I understand that miscarriage is a difficult experience to talk about, I know how it can even ruin relationships. However, if we're going to assume that a fetus is a human, then it can be a victim of negligence and manslaughter.
Agreed. There are certainly some cases where enough environmental factors causes a miscarriage. I understand that miscarriage is a difficult experience to talk about, I know how it can even ruin relationships. However, if we're going to assume that a fetus is a human, then it can be a victim of negligence and manslaughter.
Yes. Which is why if a man abuses a pregnant woman and causes her to miscarry, it is considered manslaughter, even today.
Agreed. There are certainly some cases where enough environmental factors causes a miscarriage. I understand that miscarriage is a difficult experience to talk about, I know how it can even ruin relationships. However, if we're going to assume that a fetus is a human, then it can be a victim of negligence and manslaughter.
Yes. Which is why if a man abuses a pregnant woman and causes her to miscarry, it is considered manslaughter, even today.
Has it ever been attempted to try a woman for manslaughter for risky behavior that led to a miscarriage?
Miscarriage is literally known as spontaneous abortion. To say they're incomparable is being dishonest. If people want to call those who have abortions murderers, then they should handle their claims being taken seriously.
A vast majority of miscarriages are caused by factors that the parents can't control. Abortion can 100% be controlled. If a mother knowingly and willingly participates in an activity that can harm a fetus then she should be held accountable but a normal unfortunate miscarriage is nothing like an abortion.
In trying to prove your point and to prove you're right, you've shown yourself to be a disgusting human being.
Miscarriage is literally known as spontaneous abortion. To say they're incomparable is being dishonest. If people want to call those who have abortions murderers, then they should handle their claims being taken seriously.
A vast majority of miscarriages are caused by factors that the parents can't control. Abortion can 100% be controlled. If a mother knowingly and willingly participates in an activity that can harm a fetus then she should be held accountable but a normal unfortunate miscarriage is nothing like an abortion.
In trying to prove your point and to prove you're right, you've shown yourself to be a disgusting human being.
So we agree that women who have miscarriages who participate in risky behaviors are culpable of manslaughter. Not sure why that is so hard to admit.
OK timeout WTF are you talking about. You have gone off the deep end bro.
I like you, I respect you, but your diving off the deep end when you cant swim. I want ot ask you an honest question bro. Are you OK. I am worried about you.
Yes, I'm not the one calling fellow posters murderers. Are you?
Yes I am. I call them as I see them just like I always have. IMO if you kill a baby then your a murderer. Plain and simple no questions asked. It's easy for everybody to see. I am as clear, to see, and to understand as anybody.
Let me ask you this.... if you suffocate a baby who is one day old are you a murderer of not???
If life is so precious and especially a child's life (which I agree), then why does the right condone the killing of thousands of civilians with bombs. Why does the right condone a system that refuses to feed the poorest and weakest among us? Why does the right support not providing medical care, shelter, clothing,or a quality education to this same child?
Before you point a finger at the left and call us baby murderers, look in the mirror for the hypocrite.
It's so funny to see them call people murderers yet celebrate Israel that literally dropped tear gas on an 8 month old child two Fridays ago. They couldn't be more transparent if they were made of glass.
Miscarriage is literally known as spontaneous abortion. To say they're incomparable is being dishonest. If people want to call those who have abortions murderers, then they should handle their claims being taken seriously.
A vast majority of miscarriages are caused by factors that the parents can't control. Abortion can 100% be controlled. If a mother knowingly and willingly participates in an activity that can harm a fetus then she should be held accountable but a normal unfortunate miscarriage is nothing like an abortion.
In trying to prove your point and to prove you're right, you've shown yourself to be a disgusting human being.
So we agree that women who have miscarriages who participate in risky behaviors are culpable of manslaughter. Not sure why that is so hard to admit.
Your original comment about GM's situation said nothing about risky behavior. You simply said women who have miscarriages should be held accountable.
Why is it so hard to admit you made a ridiculous, absurd comment just to try to prove a point? You're wrong here, plain and simple.
If a natural miscarriage occurs there's no one to be held accountable, unless they participated in risky behavior, which increased the likelihood of a miscarriage.
If life is so precious and especially a child's life (which I agree), then why does the right condone the killing of thousands of civilians with bombs. Why does the right condone a system that refuses to feed the poorest and weakest among us? Why does the right support not providing medical care, shelter, clothing,or a quality education to this same child?
Before you point a finger at the left and call us baby murderers, look in the mirror for the hypocrite.
I have no idea why the right does what it does as I don't agree with them. I also have no idea why the left does what they do as I have no idea what they think they are doing.
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If life is so precious and especially a child's life (which I agree), then why does the right condone the killing of thousands of civilians with bombs. Why does the right condone a system that refuses to feed the poorest and weakest among us?
Why in the hell would you ask me??????
Your changing the conversation 1000 percent. Stop running away and stick to the subject bro. Your not afraid of a dumb old redneck are you????
Yes. Good things fetuses are not babies and are just as capable of living outside the body as your tumour is.
Guess what not a single 1 day old infant can live on it's own outside of the womb so according to you it's not a baby. I mean hell it can't live on it's own.
If a natural miscarriage occurs there's no one to be held accountable, unless they participated in risky behavior, which increased the likelihood of a miscarriage.
So if a woman makes a decision that 100% will harm the fetus, nothing?
