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Ya ... nice article ...

One thing ...

James Clapper ADMITTED they spied on his campaign ...

And how many times are u guys going to be WRONG about him before u start giving him credit for not being a complete bafoon ....

Your HATRED has completely blinded u ...

And guys ... BOUNCING BALL ...

- yesterday the 17th hostage/prisoner was released under the Trump admin ...

Thank You Mr. President some of us have a clue as to where the bouncing ball is ...

Please keep up the good work ... thumbsup


No no no. Sorry man. Clapper did not admit they spied on Trump. That's what Trump twisted what Clapper said into.

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/25/17380212/spygate-trump-russia-spy-stefan-halper-fbi-explained

Read it if you want a little truth and counter balance. Trump is lying and twisting the truth and you are drinking the koolaid. There isn't a different way to frame the situation.

Go ahead and love Trump for what he's doing to unwind the Obama legacy. What he's done with tariffs or ICE .... that's all fine and subject to opinion and debate. . . . What Clapper said, and what Trump claimed afterwards isn't.
So you say you don't believe a word trump says cause he lies when on tv, cool ok. But you believe a word clapper said who has lied under oath to congress...........makes a lot of sense thumbsup

To anyone actually paying attention - yep, makes a ton of sense.

Trump has lied constantly since taking office. Do you want to dispute that? You want to make a case for him having the largest inauguration crowds in history (we may as well start with the first whopper)... or any of the hundreds of lies since?

Your statement as if it was a fact that Clapper lied under oath to congress ... is based on what? Something Trump said ? LOL.... Clapper said they had someone go in and ask a bunch of questions. He explained they had to investigate what was happening and by doing so, it was not what you would usually call "Spying" ..... Clapper has lead a long and distinguished career in the intelligence community. . . . He think's Trump is a douche bag based on his inside knowledge. You must be drinking the fantasy kool-aid & believe hook line and sink that there's a Deep State - Ala Mueller, Clapper et al - controlling the system and all secretly working against Trump.


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First, off, I didn't dispute trump lied. You did. all politicians lie. All president lie.

Secondly, your talking about clapper in a completely different scenario I am was referring too. Look into Snowden and how Clapper and company LIED to congress about invading AMERICAN CITIZENS privacy. Its well known. You are out of your element, because you don't even know what topic you are replying too.

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http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

I guess as long as Trump is alienating the world and making Murica great .... it does not matter that he's lied so much??

I get that they all lie .... at some point .... but come on.

Here's a list of 50 Obama lies over 2 terms .... and the list of 50 was fact checked and claims that these were all lies is not accurate... but lets say all 50 were lies. 50 in 8 year vs 3000+ in 18 months. Pfft. So Yeah, I'll take Clapper's word over Trumps.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obamas-50-lies/

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
First, off, I didn't dispute trump lied. You did. all politicians lie. All president lie.

Secondly, your talking about clapper in a completely different scenario I am was referring too. Look into Snowden and how Clapper and company LIED to congress about invading AMERICAN CITIZENS privacy. Its well known. You are out of your element, because you don't even know what topic you are replying too.


Well maybe you need to put a little meat on your bones. And I'll still take Clapper's word over Trump's every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

I guess as long as Trump is alienating the world and making Murica great .... it does not matter that he's lied so much??

I get that they all lie .... at some point .... but come on.

Here's a list of 50 Obama lies over 2 terms .... and the list of 50 was fact checked and claims that these were all lies is not accurate... but lets say all 50 were lies. 50 in 8 year vs 3000+ in 18 months. Pfft. So Yeah, I'll take Clapper's word over Trumps.
hmmm, I got scolded for comparing trump and Obama, yet you do it when it suits you.....ok.....fair?

AGAIN I never disputed anything about trump lying. IDK why you keep trying to post that. I am saying that your hypocrisy in the matter is astounding. Trump lies ok, don't believe him. But then Clapper lies to congress and you use him as your example. It holds no water or common sense, except that you are turning a blind eye towards clapper to fit your agenda. Disgusting.

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J\C Accept one liar over another cause it fits their agenda....whatta a great standard to live by..... LMFAO


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All I know is that the US Government would never lie to me. Not the President, not the FBI, not the CIA or the DHS. You make it to the top spots in America, especially politics and federal law enforcement, by being an honest and good man.

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Yeah damit! Accepting deplorable behavior from our leaders like separating kids from their parents and other inhuman policies are the 'Murica' standards to live by now! Get on the crazy train or die by the hands of the SS.


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AH.... Another liberal pleasantry ...what the f ever.

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