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I am not belittling them, I am besmarting them.

I think there is a lot of lawyer speech going on in there, so no it's not the exact truth, but close enough to not self incriminate them to the extreme. But I do think Child Services instantly tries to gain custody of the child, if they were given illegal drugs (CS is a federal agency and refer to the Federal laws on all drugs.) by a parent. I do not know if they had any prior experience with child's services.

Did they smoke weed too?

Yes, that's what the book is about.

Thanks for answering. And bro.........you're better off ignoring Vambo. I've dealt w/his crap for years in Pure Football. He refuses to play fair.

Agreed, his exile to the smack shack has done a lot for him over the last decade. The thing about Vambo is that he's a masochist, who is missing Steelers fans dunking on him 24/7. I just thought I'd keep him company until they return for the new season.

Your as close to a Steeler fan as they come, keep up the good work!

masochisism

as of now, theres no reason to think they're lying, or at least lying about the main issue here.

take a look at this:


Here’s a look at the current state of Georgia marijuana laws.
Marijuana Under Georgia Law

The possession, sale, trafficking, and cultivation of marijuana is illegal in most states, although a few states tightly regulate its recreational use (with varying approaches to retail sales and home cultivation). However, roughly half of all states allow the medicinal use of cannabis. Georgia marijuana laws are relatively strict, but many counties in the state offer alternative sentencing programs for offenders, which offer treatment in lieu of jail time. Possession of more than 1 ounce of marijuana is a felony in Georgia, punishable by one to 10 years in prison.

Georgia Marijuana Statutes

The following chart highlights the main provisions of Georgia marijuana laws.

Code Section

16-13-30, et seq.

Possession

1 oz or less: misdemeanor, 1 yr. or $1,000 fine; more than 1 oz (but less than 10 lbs.): felony, 1-10 yrs.; over 10 lbs. is considered trafficking

Medical Marijuana Eligible patients may possess up to 20 ounces of low-THC (high-CBD) cannabis oil; possession of the whole plant is not allowed, nor is cultivation. Although low-TCH cannabis oil is legal in the state, it is not clear how it should be obtained.
Sale or Trafficking

Felony. 10 lbs or less: 1-10 yrs; 10-2000 lbs.: 5 yrs. and mandatory $100,000; 2000-10,000 lbs.: 7 yrs. and mandatory $250,000; Over 10,000 lbs.: 15 yrs. and mandatory $1,000,000

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/georgia-law/georgia-marijuana-laws.html

notice the catch 22 there? technically you can have it...but the parent isn't the patient; the child is, which is why they caught heat from the law.

now, i was already aware of this, but Georgia, a bible belt state, has some of the strictest cannabis laws in this country. most states in the south do, in general.

so just possessing weed will get you no less than a misdemeanor. while they aren't locking up people left in right, especially in atlanta (Eve can attest to that), you're looking at an automatic charge on your record.

so combine that with CPS, who tend to be overzealous or under, depending on the state and who's in charge of the case, i can absolutely see things going down the way the parents said it went down.

now, Vers? do you normally buy a beer or liquor without trying it out first? like maybe you bought a shot of a specific type of vodka on date night with wifey, thought it was good and decided to hit the shop and buy it?

thats what everybody does with pretty much anything they are potentially buying.

i sincerely hope nobody on here bought a car before test driving it.

you do the same thing with weed. i do it all the time. why do you do it?

test the quality, and in this case, make sure it aint BS. sometimes if you don't know the dealer, they will try and scam you with a bag of oregano, spray some stuff that smells like weed on there (it exist).

or as a parent in this, i'm trying to make sure it isnt that synthetic crap that has people going crazy, having seizures and stuff, cause ya know...its the very thing he's trying to stop with his kid.

so yea, testing the product is purchasing 101. the fact that we got people on this board who don't understand that concept (not you, but you seen the post) lets me know we have some truly gullible people in this world.

so again, as of now there's no reason to think the parents are lying. because this isn't the first time a story like this happened, where parents caught heat from the law for trying to use cannabis to stop their kids seizures. not even remotely.

Intelligent and informative reply. I like that even if we disagree a bit. Great argument.

I completely understand what you are saying. My skepticism [and there is no proof that I'm correct] comes from how hard it is to actually remove abused/neglected children from a home.

Bro, I can tell you horror stories that would make your skin crawl and those kids were not removed from the home.

I'm speculating that there has to be way more to this story than what is being reported. I could be wrong.

But, this has been a pretty good conversation w/you and CHS. I appreciate that.

for sure bro.

i understand your point about CPS for sure. that agency truly is one of the most inconsistent agencies out there. so many times it seems to be based on the judgement of the person in charge of the case, not so much a set standard of what protocol should be followed.

for all we know, the next follow up article about this could show exactly your concerns; maybe they found a whole lot of something else not named cannabis in the house.

but in a state with strict drug laws, and then seeing how other parents have been treated by law enforcement when it comes to this very specific issue, i can certainly see why a CPS in Georgia would be quick to try and remove a child who's parents have weed in the house.

i mean what if it's a case where the guy is an ex felon, and maybe they found a weapon in the house or something? while it has nothing to do with treating the kid for seizures, those things adds up and gives reason for CPS to come knocking.

The biggest problem w/the agency is just how overwhelmed they are. There are so many horrific cases that they can't keep up. It takes a lot of time and paperwork to remove a kid from a parent's home.

I think we are agreeing on this topic. I totally agree w/you that it would be complete BS if they removed the kid due to failed weed test. LOL.........give me a break. And I think you agree w/me that there may be more to the story.

Good conversation and again, I do appreciate the informative facts that you presented in your earlier post.

You shouldn't think of yourself that way.

Spoken like somebody that NEVER served. Tell the Greatest Generation how that constitution protected us from the Nazi's the first time around.

Sick burn.

If you don't like the laws of your state get them changed or move to one that suits you better.

I don't support the recreation use of pot at all but medicine is medicine and those who NEED it should be able to have it. After all there are many poisons that in low enough doses have medicinal value too. Let the doctors do their jobs without their hands tied.

Quit trying to make sick, and suffering folks suffer even more because of your will that they should continue to suffer.

Who was the nosey Nellie that called CPS????

I will say that the parents had the choice to move to a state that meet their needs if GA couldn’t. That would not be illegal and people le move for medical reasons all the time.

The tale of this family is tragic.
I do not speak of my will but of the law of the land.
You break those laws at your own risk so don't go blaming others when you get busted.

Change the laws if you can but don't justify breaking them if you don't agree with them.

So much for "Right to Try"

Right to Try is for the dying.

If you wish to play Witch Doctor with yourself or your family by giving them an illegal drug then understand the consequences.

The kid is already on Doctor approved meds. Now you throw MJ on top of that and you could easily effect how those other meds work.

Most people don't realize that simply eating Grapefruit with many meds can double or halve the effects of those drugs.

If you are on a blood thinners and decide to load up on say, vitamin D, you could bleed out internally if that D also works as a blood thinner.

The doctor approved meds weren’t working. Lets not act like they didn’t try the meds first before exploring this option. It clearly wasn’t working.

You love ignoring that.

j/c

I think it's funny the twists and turns this thread has taken.

Actually, I think very few have suggested that it was okay for these people to have broken the law. What I'm surprised wasn't brought up is how some may not understand that some people can't afford to just pick up and move. How some of big pharmas prescriptions can cost thousands and weed is much more affordable and in the case of preventing seizures, much more effective.

But the entire point I was trying to make is none of those things. The point I was trying to make is that there is leeway in punishment of laws. Minimum and maximum sentences that can be imposed. That in theory our courts are supposed to consider both the letter of the law and the spirit of the law when doling out punishment.

So it's not that the parents should walk away scot free. It's the extreme the court went to in order to remove the child from parents who were actually doing the best thing for the child.

Someone should just carve 'jury nullification' in the courtroom stalls tbh

Bro...........we have only heard the parent's side on this. I know you want to believe them, but frankly, I don't that story is even close to being true.

I have seen kids remain in homes for far worse crimes, including physical abuse, sexual abuse, and neglect that is frightening.

I ain't buying their story.

Yes it is. They found a way to stop their kids suffering, and the government steps in and makes sure the kids has to go through hell again while people like you applaud them for it. That is not only tragic, it's sickening and immoral.

LMFAO ya like thats so great. Here son take these expensive man made drugs that don't work, get you addicted, and cause so many side effects we have to spend 20 seconds of a 30 second commercial explaining them. But what ever you do dont use a cheap natural remedy that works because we can't rape you for our profit if you do that.

Time for you to step away from FOX news..

Whether it's for the dying or not is not the point. It's an attempt by parents to help their child..

Only a conservative windbag like Sessions or Trump (whos not really a conservative, but more like a Nazi)would deny parents the ability to help their child let alone taking the kid away.

j\c

I'm a 100 % for medical weed and the fact that is that the parents were smoking it also and that to me is what really opened the can of worms in this case.

I'm not sure if it's true or not. What I can say is I know that childrens services and how they operate vary from place to place. I came from a small, rural community. They would snatch children from homes in a heartbeat. Yet the next county over they would allow things that would never fly in my county.

So I don't believe there's a steadfast rule as to how childrens services operates. At least not from my experience. And in this case, it may be the court actually behind the child being removed more than anything else.