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We have to win the next one to keep hope alive.

I really don't know how we can beat this team.

Pretty much what I expected after the way game 1 ended. If we're going to use the slogan "whatever it takes" then we need to start roughing their guys up.

I think its time we see hood in there.

Clarkson needs to be sitting, he has been garbage

We really need to hit open shots.

this was one of those games that no matter what, you just were not going to beat GS. They have those. They were making everything. we just could not put together a couple straight stops to climb into it. everytime we would get a stop or two, they would go on another small run to keep the game 10+ it seemed. They were shooting lights out, and did whatever they wanted on off.

Clarkson hasn't proven anything to get the minutes he gets. Hood is a guy that can create his own shot and can hit the 3 at a high clip. Clarkson is a black hole with the ball in his hand.

Korver is getting too many minutes as well..He has consistently been invisible against golden state, even last year...he simply isn't quick enough to get his shot..have to run elaborate picks and pin downs to free him up and he still isn't getting good looks or missing.

If Korver and JR aren't going to score, you play hood and osman, at least with osman you'll get defense and hustle. Not to mention actually playing like he wants to be there.

Agree with that. There was one game where Clarkson got the ball with something like 12 seconds left before the half or quarter ended, and I was like, "Well, we know how this is going to end". Sure enough, he never passed the ball, put up some sort of contested jumper and missed. If you want him out there because he's fast and can cover Curry, great. Then tell him you're going to fine him whenever he shoots the ball.



Don't know if I agree with that though. Korver is a streaky shooter. Same with JR. If you get them going, they can be great. I just think Lue keeps them in there way too long hoping they'll catch fire when they aren't. Or he'll put them in there for 5 minutes to spell someone else, they'll hit a 3 right at the end of their shift, and he still pulls them.



I kind of agree with that. If JR and Korver aren't getting hot, then go with a lineup of something like TT, Osman, Hood and Hill. Just go with the Lebron and Four offense, and let them play some hustle defense. I don't know, try to mix things up a bit? That's my biggest problem with with Lue is that his lineups are head-scratching, and he sticks with them far too long when they aren't working. Try something different?

NBA Officials Acknowledge Missing Foul Call Against the Warriors in Game 2 on Twitter


On Monday, the official Twitter account of the NBA Officials said it missed a foul call against the Warriors late in the third quarter when a player undercut LeBron James while James was trying to catch a pass in the open court.

The play happened with about four minutes remaining in the quarter while Golden State held an 81-73 lead over the Cavaliers. James jumped to catch a pass near Cleveland's three-point line as Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson surrounded him on either side. As James came down with the ball, Curry was in front of James and undercut him on his landing. This caused James to lose his balance and control of the ball before stumbling out of bounds for what was called a turnover on the court.

During the game, James, and fans watching at home all immediately reacted feeling that James was fouled considering how Curry tripped him from the front and because Thompson also made contact from behind that appeared to help knock James into Curry.

The officials say that Curry undercutting James warranted a foul, but the ref, "had a closed look at the point of contact," which prevented him from making the call.




Cavaliers coach Tyronn Lue was given a technical foul for arguing over that play, and the Warriors outscored Cleveland by two to close the quarter and take a 90-80 lead into the fourth. From there, Golden State went on to win the game 122-103.

This comes after a controversial block call in Game 1, in which James initially drew a charge against Kevin Durant late in the fourth quarter with Cleveland up two. The officials decided to review the play to see if James was outside of the restricted area, but after the review, although James was clearly outside of the restricted area, the call was switched from a charge to a block because James had not established legal guarding position at the time of contact.

Game 3 of the series will be Wednesday at 9 p.m. ET in Cleveland. The Warriors hld a 2-0 lead.

Last night's loss was pretty deflating for me. Each news media outlet has JR Smith something related, refs bad calls, video of LBJ looking upset over stupid moves and just all kinds of stats that depress ya.

I love the fact we've made it to the finals. Some, me included, didn't think we'd make it beyond Indiana. If this is LBJ's last year, then thank you for coming back home and making us something worth watching and etc. Thank you for the championship we, as a city, desperately needed.

Best thing we can do is to win one and avoid a sweeping imo. Sad, but truth. Golden State is just a stacked team that plays beyond well together, and we just have LBJ. Simply not enough.

NBA officiating is such a joke.

I think what bothers me the most, is we finally get a team capable of winning championships, and another super team comes along that we can't beat. Cleveland sports has the worst luck.

If the Warriors sweep, I wonder if this will boil over on the NBA. Outside of Cleveland and GS fans, who is tired of this match up in the finals? If GSW looks unstoppable, who is going to keep watching next year?

I remember getting board with baseball back when it was the Yankees every year. I wonder how many NBA fans are starting to feel the same way.

But overall, the NBA system sucks and needs to be evened out in some fashion.

I agree, the NBA has a flawed system. Epically boring for 99% of people to watch the same 2 super teams year after year.

The fact that there can even be a few superteams ruins it. All those other cities have nothing to root for except some scraps.

Unless the Cavs can have some kind of major overhaul, they aren't winning the ECF next season because we won't beat the celtics with Kyrie and Hayward.

So, at least there will be some small change.

But overall, the NBA system sucks and needs to be evened out in some fashion.

They should probably have a "max", "star max" and "super-star max" salary structure. One guy can make $35 mil a year, one guy can make $25 mil a year, and everyone else tops out at something like $15 million. It would disperse the superstars a little more through-out the league, and prevent them from teaming up to form super-teams. You think Steph Curry is going to take a $10 million a year pay hit so he can play with Durant? You think Klay Thompson will take $15 mil a year when he could be making $25M or even $35M elsewhere? Teams would have to be a little smarter with their money too. You know some team out there would sign a guy like Al Horford to a super-star max, and be stuck with him for several years.

with this suggestion, there would be 75 million per season allotted to those three star players ... why wouldn't those guys just agree to all take 25

seeing the video of the huddle going into OT: clearly the body language indicated we knew we were done

But, did they even talk about anything?? Lol ... no discussion? strategy? suggestion? substitution? weird.

strategy, subs? did you forget who our coach is? lol.. But that video looks like lebron said I'm done.. I have nothing left to give. This will go down as one of the worst losses in cavs history.

seeing the video of the huddle going into OT: clearly the body language indicated we knew we were done

But, did they even talk about anything?? Lol ... no discussion? strategy? suggestion? substitution? weird.

Just think of the Cavs as an uncoached team and everything will make more sense.

When is the last time we traded for or signed a player, and they maintained or improved their play from their previous team?

Just think of the Cavs as an uncoached team and everything will make more sense.

When is the last time we traded for or signed a player, and they maintained or improved their play from their previous team?

So they admit to one? Even Tom Brady thinks the Cavs are getting screwed.

Yeah, in the industry it would be called a monopoly. We need a lot more elites to be on the same level as GS. We have Love and LBJ, they have... everyone lol. The NBA seems okay with it because the super teams started when LBJ went to the Heat. Jersey's are selling in them cities.

So does Chris Bosh and some other NBA players.. I know I'm a fan and I get emotional and it's normal to see calls one-sided as a fan.. but when other pros in the sport are validating your opinion, it's hard to ignore.

Just think of the Cavs as an uncoached team and everything will make more sense.

When is the last time we traded for or signed a player, and they maintained or improved their play from their previous team?

Just looking at that video, you can see that Lue is a huge problem. He's doing who-knows-what for 90% of that time-out and then pops in for the last couple seconds to say a few things, and then rolls everyone back out there. They were toast at that point. Lebron looks like he doesn't even want to try anymore and poor JR looks shell-shocked.

A real coach would of pulled them in right after the buzzer, told them to shake it off, and tell them they still have a good chance to win it. He would of seen JRs face and immediately put someone else in there for him.