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I gave you the link providing the law that shows that going to a legal border crossing to apply for asylum is the legal method by law and you ignored it. So what good does showing you proof do anyway?


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Aren’t you late for a book burning?


Nope proving you wrong is much more fun! rofl


So you agree...it’s ok to separate children from their families based on there origin and ethnic background and send them to prison camps ...gotcha. Sig heil!


Never said that


You didn’t have to.


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Aren’t you late for a book burning?


Nope proving you wrong is much more fun! rofl


So you agree...it’s ok to separate children from their families based on there origin and ethnic background and send them to prison camps ...gotcha. Sig heil!


Never said that


You didn’t have to.


Making up BS just comes natural to you. Got it! thumbsup

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Aren’t you late for a book burning?


Nope proving you wrong is much more fun! rofl


So you agree...it’s ok to separate children from their families based on there origin and ethnic background and send them to prison camps ...gotcha. Sig heil!


Never said that


You didn’t have to.


Making up BS just comes natural to you. Got it! thumbsup


So it’s BS that the USA has separated children from their families while seeking asylum which you have gone out of your way to support the deplorable policy here over and over. got itrofl


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I posted the definition of kidnapping for you. Sorry you couldn't comprehend the words.

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So it’s BS that the USA has separated children from their families while seeking asylum which you have gone out of your way to support the deplorable policy here over and over. got itrofl


Making up fake kidnapping is BS. boo

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I posted the definition of kidnapping for you. Sorry you couldn't comprehend the words.


You didn't prove kidnapping. tsktsk

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So we've gone from separating children from their families awaiting deportation...

to..

kidnapping and prison camps..

The left has a very hard time selling their message without injecting a ton of emotional conjecture and poetic license into it...


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I gave you the link providing the law that shows that going to a legal border crossing to apply for asylum is the legal method by law and you ignored it. So what good does showing you proof do anyway?


Children Separated From Families at Border

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Arrests Drop at U.S.-Mexico Border in June, but Cause Unclear

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...t-cause-unclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people arrested at the U.S.-Mexico border fell 18 percent in June from May, following the implementation of President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, the Department of Homeland Security said on Thursday.

But it noted that the decline in border apprehensions, to 34,114 individuals in June from 40,338 in May, "follows the overall downward trend for this time of year," making it unclear how much the controversial policy helped reduce the numbers.

Trump's zero tolerance policy, implemented in May, calls on federal agencies to work together to prosecute all immigrants apprehended entering the United States illegally.

Under the policy, parents are held in federal detention pending prosecution, while their children are sent to shelters or foster homes, often far from their parents and with no clear way to contact them.

The drop in border apprehensions in June could be a response to the policy or a result of normal month-to-month fluctuations. The reduction in numbers is far less dramatic than in the months following Trump's taking office in January 2017.

Trump administration officials have said the zero tolerance policy is needed to secure the border and deter illegal immigration. It has resulted in more than 2,000 children being separated from their parents, and Trump has faced enormous political pressure to reverse course.

On June 20, he partly walked the policy back, issuing an executive order calling for families to be detained together. A federal judge in San Diego ordered the government last week to rapidly reunite separated families.

Border apprehensions plummeted during the first few months of Trump's presidency, to a low of 11,126 in April 2017, but have since crept back up to levels comparable with those during the Obama administration. The May 2018 figure is the highest number since Trump took office.

Randy Capps, director of research for U.S. programs at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan group, said last week that 34,000 arrests at the southern border in June would be almost the same number of arrests as in June 2016, and twice as high as June 2017.

"There is no evidence yet that zero tolerance has substantially affected either the level of apprehensions this month or the seasonal pattern of slight declines from May to June," Capps wrote in an email.

The government is moving some migrant parents to detention sites closer to the young children they were separated from when crossing the border to meet a court-imposed deadline to reunify families, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said on Thursday.

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So we've gone from separating children from their families awaiting deportation...

to..

kidnapping and prison camps..

The left has a very hard time selling their message without injecting a ton of emotional conjecture and poetic license into it...




Housing them in caged Wal Marts doesn't exactly have the same ring to it...

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So we've gone from separating children from their families awaiting deportation...

to..

kidnapping and prison camps..

The left has a very hard time selling their message without injecting a ton of emotional conjecture and poetic license into it...




Housing them in caged Wal Marts doesn't exactly have the same ring to it...

Neither does "fenced in area".. that doesn't sound nearly as much like you are treating them like dogs, which I know is what they are going for...


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Yeah, Gaza is a fenced in area and no one cares about them. Fenced in makes it sound like they're half way to the American dream.

Look at 40 and Vambo's posts, "We feed them, educate them, give them medical care. We even gave them a fence! We're so merciful."

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Arrests Drop at U.S.-Mexico Border in June, but Cause Unclear

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...t-cause-unclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people arrested at the U.S.-Mexico border fell 18 percent in June from May, following the implementation of President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, the Department of Homeland Security said on Thursday.

But it noted that the decline in border apprehensions, to 34,114 individuals in June from 40,338 in May, "follows the overall downward trend for this time of year," making it unclear how much the controversial policy helped reduce the numbers.

Trump's zero tolerance policy, implemented in May, calls on federal agencies to work together to prosecute all immigrants apprehended entering the United States illegally.

Under the policy, parents are held in federal detention pending prosecution, while their children are sent to shelters or foster homes, often far from their parents and with no clear way to contact them.

The drop in border apprehensions in June could be a response to the policy or a result of normal month-to-month fluctuations. The reduction in numbers is far less dramatic than in the months following Trump's taking office in January 2017.

Trump administration officials have said the zero tolerance policy is needed to secure the border and deter illegal immigration. It has resulted in more than 2,000 children being separated from their parents, and Trump has faced enormous political pressure to reverse course.

On June 20, he partly walked the policy back, issuing an executive order calling for families to be detained together. A federal judge in San Diego ordered the government last week to rapidly reunite separated families.

Border apprehensions plummeted during the first few months of Trump's presidency, to a low of 11,126 in April 2017, but have since crept back up to levels comparable with those during the Obama administration. The May 2018 figure is the highest number since Trump took office.

Randy Capps, director of research for U.S. programs at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan group, said last week that 34,000 arrests at the southern border in June would be almost the same number of arrests as in June 2016, and twice as high as June 2017.

"There is no evidence yet that zero tolerance has substantially affected either the level of apprehensions this month or the seasonal pattern of slight declines from May to June," Capps wrote in an email.

The government is moving some migrant parents to detention sites closer to the young children they were separated from when crossing the border to meet a court-imposed deadline to reunify families, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said on Thursday.


They don't have facilities to house them all, that's why arrests are down.

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So we've gone from separating children from their families awaiting deportation...

to..

kidnapping and prison camps..

The left has a very hard time selling their message without injecting a ton of emotional conjecture and poetic license into it...




Housing them in caged Wal Marts doesn't exactly have the same ring to it...

Neither does "fenced in area".. that doesn't sound nearly as much like you are treating them like dogs, which I know is what they are going for...


Fenced in area? That sounds like some kind of gated camp. They are locked in cages made of chain link fencing, forced to sleep on concrete floors and given mylar blankets. Mylar is used to make aluminum looking balloons, just FYI.

Jail sounds better if you ask me. At least in Jail you are off the floor and have a wool blanket.

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Arrests Drop at U.S.-Mexico Border in June, but Cause Unclear

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...t-cause-unclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people arrested at the U.S.-Mexico border fell 18 percent in June from May, following the implementation of President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, the Department of Homeland Security said on Thursday.

But it noted that the decline in border apprehensions, to 34,114 individuals in June from 40,338 in May, "follows the overall downward trend for this time of year," making it unclear how much the controversial policy helped reduce the numbers.

Trump's zero tolerance policy, implemented in May, calls on federal agencies to work together to prosecute all immigrants apprehended entering the United States illegally.

Under the policy, parents are held in federal detention pending prosecution, while their children are sent to shelters or foster homes, often far from their parents and with no clear way to contact them.

The drop in border apprehensions in June could be a response to the policy or a result of normal month-to-month fluctuations. The reduction in numbers is far less dramatic than in the months following Trump's taking office in January 2017.

Trump administration officials have said the zero tolerance policy is needed to secure the border and deter illegal immigration. It has resulted in more than 2,000 children being separated from their parents, and Trump has faced enormous political pressure to reverse course.

On June 20, he partly walked the policy back, issuing an executive order calling for families to be detained together. A federal judge in San Diego ordered the government last week to rapidly reunite separated families.

Border apprehensions plummeted during the first few months of Trump's presidency, to a low of 11,126 in April 2017, but have since crept back up to levels comparable with those during the Obama administration. The May 2018 figure is the highest number since Trump took office.

Randy Capps, director of research for U.S. programs at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan group, said last week that 34,000 arrests at the southern border in June would be almost the same number of arrests as in June 2016, and twice as high as June 2017.

"There is no evidence yet that zero tolerance has substantially affected either the level of apprehensions this month or the seasonal pattern of slight declines from May to June," Capps wrote in an email.

The government is moving some migrant parents to detention sites closer to the young children they were separated from when crossing the border to meet a court-imposed deadline to reunify families, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said on Thursday.


They don't have facilities to house them all, that's why arrests are down.


Link please or just more made up BS?

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Arrests Drop at U.S.-Mexico Border in June, but Cause Unclear

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...t-cause-unclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people arrested at the U.S.-Mexico border fell 18 percent in June from May, following the implementation of President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, the Department of Homeland Security said on Thursday.

But it noted that the decline in border apprehensions, to 34,114 individuals in June from 40,338 in May, "follows the overall downward trend for this time of year," making it unclear how much the controversial policy helped reduce the numbers.

Trump's zero tolerance policy, implemented in May, calls on federal agencies to work together to prosecute all immigrants apprehended entering the United States illegally.

Under the policy, parents are held in federal detention pending prosecution, while their children are sent to shelters or foster homes, often far from their parents and with no clear way to contact them.

The drop in border apprehensions in June could be a response to the policy or a result of normal month-to-month fluctuations. The reduction in numbers is far less dramatic than in the months following Trump's taking office in January 2017.

Trump administration officials have said the zero tolerance policy is needed to secure the border and deter illegal immigration. It has resulted in more than 2,000 children being separated from their parents, and Trump has faced enormous political pressure to reverse course.

On June 20, he partly walked the policy back, issuing an executive order calling for families to be detained together. A federal judge in San Diego ordered the government last week to rapidly reunite separated families.

Border apprehensions plummeted during the first few months of Trump's presidency, to a low of 11,126 in April 2017, but have since crept back up to levels comparable with those during the Obama administration. The May 2018 figure is the highest number since Trump took office.

Randy Capps, director of research for U.S. programs at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan group, said last week that 34,000 arrests at the southern border in June would be almost the same number of arrests as in June 2016, and twice as high as June 2017.

"There is no evidence yet that zero tolerance has substantially affected either the level of apprehensions this month or the seasonal pattern of slight declines from May to June," Capps wrote in an email.

The government is moving some migrant parents to detention sites closer to the young children they were separated from when crossing the border to meet a court-imposed deadline to reunify families, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said on Thursday.


They don't have facilities to house them all, that's why arrests are down.


Link please or just more made up BS?


Google is your friend, I am not.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/in-a-de...federal-prisons

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Arrests Drop at U.S.-Mexico Border in June, but Cause Unclear

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...t-cause-unclear

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of people arrested at the U.S.-Mexico border fell 18 percent in June from May, following the implementation of President Donald Trump's "zero tolerance" immigration policy, the Department of Homeland Security said on Thursday.

But it noted that the decline in border apprehensions, to 34,114 individuals in June from 40,338 in May, "follows the overall downward trend for this time of year," making it unclear how much the controversial policy helped reduce the numbers.

Trump's zero tolerance policy, implemented in May, calls on federal agencies to work together to prosecute all immigrants apprehended entering the United States illegally.

Under the policy, parents are held in federal detention pending prosecution, while their children are sent to shelters or foster homes, often far from their parents and with no clear way to contact them.

The drop in border apprehensions in June could be a response to the policy or a result of normal month-to-month fluctuations. The reduction in numbers is far less dramatic than in the months following Trump's taking office in January 2017.

Trump administration officials have said the zero tolerance policy is needed to secure the border and deter illegal immigration. It has resulted in more than 2,000 children being separated from their parents, and Trump has faced enormous political pressure to reverse course.

On June 20, he partly walked the policy back, issuing an executive order calling for families to be detained together. A federal judge in San Diego ordered the government last week to rapidly reunite separated families.

Border apprehensions plummeted during the first few months of Trump's presidency, to a low of 11,126 in April 2017, but have since crept back up to levels comparable with those during the Obama administration. The May 2018 figure is the highest number since Trump took office.

Randy Capps, director of research for U.S. programs at the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan group, said last week that 34,000 arrests at the southern border in June would be almost the same number of arrests as in June 2016, and twice as high as June 2017.

"There is no evidence yet that zero tolerance has substantially affected either the level of apprehensions this month or the seasonal pattern of slight declines from May to June," Capps wrote in an email.

The government is moving some migrant parents to detention sites closer to the young children they were separated from when crossing the border to meet a court-imposed deadline to reunify families, U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar said on Thursday.


They don't have facilities to house them all, that's why arrests are down.


Link please or just more made up BS?


Google is your friend, I am not.

https://psmag.com/social-justice/in-a-de...federal-prisons


Nothing relates it to fewer arrests but good try. rofl

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It's called simple math... puh-lease. Sometimes I think you have the critical thinking of a chimp, but given even the slightest chance you prove the chimp more intelligent.

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It's called simple math... puh-lease. Sometimes I think you have the critical thinking of a chimp, but given even the slightest chance you prove the chimp more intelligent.


You need to take a class from Diam. the Chimps are so far ahead of you! tsktsk

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Fenced in area? That sounds like some kind of gated camp. They are locked in cages made of chain link fencing,

Cage? That sounds like something the dog sleeps in thats barely big enough to stand up or turn around..

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forced to sleep on concrete floors and given mylar blankets. Mylar is used to make aluminum looking balloons, just FYI.

I know what Mylar is, it's the blanket policy that Obama started years ago..

If I'm not mistaken, Trump signed an order stopping this separation of children and "inhumane" detainment that Obama started. You should be congratulating him.


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Fenced in area? That sounds like some kind of gated camp. They are locked in cages made of chain link fencing,

Cage? That sounds like something the dog sleeps in thats barely big enough to stand up or turn around..

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forced to sleep on concrete floors and given mylar blankets. Mylar is used to make aluminum looking balloons, just FYI.

I know what Mylar is, it's the blanket policy that Obama started years ago..

If I'm not mistaken, Trump signed an order stopping this separation of children and "inhumane" detainment that Obama started. You should be congratulating him.


You are mistaken.

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Fenced in area? That sounds like some kind of gated camp. They are locked in cages made of chain link fencing,

Cage? That sounds like something the dog sleeps in thats barely big enough to stand up or turn around..

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forced to sleep on concrete floors and given mylar blankets. Mylar is used to make aluminum looking balloons, just FYI.

I know what Mylar is, it's the blanket policy that Obama started years ago..

If I'm not mistaken, Trump signed an order stopping this separation of children and "inhumane" detainment that Obama started. You should be congratulating him.


You are mistaken.

Are you sure?


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How is that possible? He swore he couldn't do that without congress acting. He said he didn't have the power to stop it. Oh that's right, he was lying again.


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How is that possible? He swore he couldn't do that without congress acting. He said he didn't have the power to stop it. Oh that's right, he was lying again.


Not lying, being forced to do it himself...

Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a flick of his pen.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/393069-schumer-rejects-gop-proposal-to-address-border-crisis

Now you and they cry that he flicked his pen. notallthere

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How is that possible? He swore he couldn't do that without congress acting. He said he didn't have the power to stop it. Oh that's right, he was lying again.


Not lying, being forced to do it himself...

Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Tuesday dismissed a legislative proposal backed by Republican leaders to keep immigrant families together at the border, arguing that President Trump could fix the problem more easily with a flick of his pen.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/393069-schumer-rejects-gop-proposal-to-address-border-crisis

Now you and they cry that he flicked his pen. notallthere

Chuck Schumer just flat out doesn't want to have his name associated with anything that the people want and the President will sign...

This is the level of non-cooperation we have reached.. something that is almost universally desired by the people, something the President wants to sign.. and Chucky won't get behind it because he can't be seen by his peeps doing anything that even remotely resembles working with the President.


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Yes agreed.

It seems a bit Unhinged.

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I'm not crying that he flicked his pen. I'm laughing because he claimed he couldn't fix it before he did and people like you buy into his lies.


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I just wasted a 1/2 hour reading this thread.

I was hoping to learn what was going on with Nicaragua and Daniel Ortega (there's a blast from the past).

Boy was I mistaken. You should all be taken out back and beaten.


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I'm not crying that he flicked his pen. I'm laughing because he claimed he couldn't fix it before he did and people like you buy into his lies.


It's a bandage temporary it's not LAW. It's not FIXED until the LAW is changed.

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You guys need to make your mind up. Either he helped stop the problem or he didn't. He said there was "nothing he could do". It appears there was something he could do and he did it.


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You guys need to make your mind up. Either he helped stop the problem or he didn't. He said there was "nothing he could do". It appears there was something he could do and he did it.
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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You guys need to make your mind up. Either he helped stop the problem or he didn't. He said there was "nothing he could do". It appears there was something he could do and he did it.

My mind is made up... Trump said recently he couldn't fix it with an executive order, then he fixed it with an executive order... but to really fix it permanently, congress needs to debate, vote, and pass a law that can be signed... so they need to get on it..

I don't ever remember a presidency where congress seems so irrelevant and is discussed so little...


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