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Certainly. I’m just defining why a pro athlete would use a professional instead of picking up a random at a club.
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I never understood people with tons of fame and money going to a prostitute. A lot of these guys could get girls without much trouble at all, especially with a famous name like "Kellen Winslow". For most of them, they aren't paying for sex, they are paying for discretion. Sure many of them could go to a bar or a club and get with a different woman every night.. and have it all over snapchat and instagram... they don't want that... especially the ones that are married.
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He should've worn a Ron Mexico jersey, then everyone would have thought he was Mike Vick.
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I never understood people with tons of fame and money going to a prostitute. A lot of these guys could get girls without much trouble at all, especially with a famous name like "Kellen Winslow". They dont pay for the sex they pay them to leave 
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That would have been a great headline.
Kellen Winslow Dresses Up As Mike Vick To Avoid Suspicion After Raping A Homeless Hooker
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Former TE Winslow in jail, accused of lewd acts https://es.pn/2XEdUebvia @ESPN App Former TE Winslow in jail, accused of lewd acts Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Email 11:40 AM ET ESPN Former NFL tight end Kellen Winslow II has been jailed without bail after he allegedly performed lewd actions in front of a 77-year-old woman at a California gym. Deputy District Attorney Dan Owens told The San Diego Union-Tribune that Winslow is accused of a pair of lewd actions toward the same woman at a Carlsbad gym in February. Winslow allegedly touched himself in front of the woman and touched the woman on her arm and foot in a hot tub in separate incidents nine days apart. Winslow, 35, is facing misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct (two counts), battery of an elder (one count) and willful cruelty to an elder (one count). He had been on house arrest stemming from charges that include kidnapping and rape from an alleged March 2018 crime spree. Winslow has pleaded not guilty to the 2018 charges, and trial is scheduled for April. If convicted, Winslow could face a maximum sentence of life in prison. Winslow spent 10 seasons in the NFL from 2004 to 2013 with Cleveland, Tampa Bay, New England and the New York Jets.
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He's on house arrest but can still go to the gym? Money can pay for a lot of things.
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Winslow.
I remember when we drafted him. Made me sick. That was the year Ben was right there. We ended with Charlie Frye.
Such a deal. On top Winslow was always a brat. A person of privilege and low character.
I hope justice is served.
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I thought he was already locked up. That's some sick stuff he's accused of.
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On top Winslow was always a brat He would tell you he's a soulja.
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Winslow.
I remember when we drafted him. Made me sick. That was the year Ben was right there... A person of ... low character.
I hope justice is served.
So would have Ben’s accusers. I agree with the premise. I also understand Ben could have made our fortunes as fans much more enjoyable over his career as a Brown... Had it gone down that way. But Ben is a creep and a predator. He’s avoided the law but he’s been accused far too often, beginning in college, for me to not believe some of what he’s been accused of. On some level. So while Winslow is a scumbag, using Ben as any kind of an example of his opposite is not the approach I’d take. Lol
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At that time Ben was just a talented prospect.
Winslow was also an amazing talent.
Ben reached his potential. Winslow did not.
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He's on house arrest but can still go to the gym? Money can pay for a lot of things. No. That is probably a big part of why he isn't allowed bail. Everybody on house arrest isn't required to wear a bracelet.
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I remember when we drafted him. Made me sick.
Same here. The one time Millen owned someone on a trade. Gave up a high 2nd round pick to move up one spot to take a guy the team we traded with wasn't going to take anyway. Botch Davis struck again.
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much.
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much. It's easy for men with money to get young women, it's much more difficult to get a woman's who's wrinkles can hold a 3 day rain.
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much. Maybe he is going for insanity plea on the other charges?
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much. Are you prejudice against old white ladies? 
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much. Are you prejudice against old white ladies?  No, and the old white ladies want him to stop it also.
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Well my wife is almost 60 so I felt the need to defend old white ladies. 
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This one was 77. She has 17 years on your wife. She OLD.
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With any luck at all I'll still be with my wife when she's 77. She certainly won't be getting younger. Don't turn a joke into a fight...... again.
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Not trying to fight. Just trying to point out Winslows nasty ass kink.
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Go read some Freud. Stop making us think about this lol
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He's on house arrest but can still go to the gym? Money can pay for a lot of things. No. That is probably a big part of why he isn't allowed bail. Everybody on house arrest isn't required to wear a bracelet. From the article: "He had been on house arrest stemming from charges that include kidnapping and rape from an alleged March 2018 crime spree."So I think he's in jail now, no more house arrest. (?)
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77 is hardly a cougar. 48 to 58 might be the range for a 25-40 year old guy.
After that, it just two older people agreeing on sex.
At one point the age doesn't matter. The urge is all that matters.
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I wasnt really trying to justify his behavior. Or calling her a cougar. I dont really consider a 77 year old a cougar.
She pressed charges against him. Clearly not cougaring.
I was trying to say: WTF is wrong with this guy.
The reason he is under house arrest is for raping elderly homeless women.
He has a screw loose.
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I wasnt really trying to justify his behavior. Or calling her a cougar. I dont really consider a 77 year old a cougar.
She pressed charges against him. Clearly not cougaring.
I was trying to say: WTF is wrong with this guy.
The reason he is under house arrest is for raping elderly homeless women.
He has a screw loose. I would have thought he wouldn't have been released after what went down last year.
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77 is hardly a cougar. 48 to 58 might be the range for a 25-40 year old guy.
After that, it just two older people agreeing on sex.
At one point the age doesn't matter. The urge is all that matters. Sorry peen, I can't help but laugh that you actually, for real, maybe are a DT expert on cougar-ism. It just struck me funny. Damn though, KW2 balled out for a year or two. Joking aside.
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Damn though, KW2 balled out for a year or two. That's why he's in trouble with the gym.
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He was making sure that she was of age. Under aged would be illegal and nasty.
Do you think he just lost a bet or something? And it required some hot tub to bubble up the mood?
Kinked.
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Why with the old ladies? Why?
I understand that some men like cougars. But an old lady kink is just too much. Not for 80 year old men 
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