DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus A new bill aims to send masked Antifa activists to jail for 15 years

Did anyone even read the actual law? It does not specify any certain group or faction. It clearly says that if a person commits acts of violence while wearing a mask, they can face additional penalties of 15 years. That would include antifa, the kkk, black panthers or any other protester. It does not say you can't wear a mask to protect your identity, as long as they're peaceful.

You can tell how paranoid someone's news have them, when you see the examples they list.

Meaning what exactly? I went and read the bill. The only news I've read on this have been from people's opinions here. I got my news directly from the source.

The Black Panther Party For Self Defense officially dissolved in 1982. That is what CHS is referring to.

They also weren't big on masks. But this is what happens when you have these fears fed to you over the years and you eat it up happily.

Presumptuious again. I picked the 3 traditionally more violent protest groups in the country. Sorry I forgot to add the word "new" to one of them.

Black Panthers are police murders.

Wasn't replying to you...just pointing out that this day in age, its becoming more and more dangerous to put your views out there in a public setting without taking some kind of precautions to protect yourself from repercussions, which could be physical, financial, or social in nature.

So, wearing a mask during a protest could be a necessity to protect your job, your business, or even the lives of you and your family.

We are living in an increasingly polarized world, and there are threats of retaliation that come with something as fundamental as sharing your views with the world.

I used our internet forums as an example, we don't use our real names on here.....and in a public setting where ppl can see your face....a mask is becoming a necessity.

The sad thing is you think you're making your case better.

No, the sad thing is that you think you might be right in any way, shape, or form. Their reasons for wearing masks are the exact same reasons the klan used to wear masks while inciting violence. They expect to get away with their crimes due to anonymity. I can't see why anyone would be for this type of behavior. If a person truly believes their cause is just, why would they hide? They'd put everything on the line for their cause, just like the civil rights protesters of the 1960s.

I'll state my concern again. The term "intimidate" is very subjective in nature. It's my concern that this word alone will allow law enforcement and our court system to use this word in a way that will punish one side or the other depending upon location by using their own interpretation of what they feel this to mean.

Is yelling back at someone who is yelling at you intimidation? I just don't like loose terms that can be twisted and not have a strict policy that leaves nothing to chance. These type of laws open the door for misuse on an epic scale.

But they don't wear masks. That's what you don't understand.

I guess berets and leather jackets now qualify as masks.

Erik, I have known you going on 20 years. You are a smart guy with flaming red hair. You have to understand that many on here aren't all that bright and don't read all that well. They read what they want.

I like Eric and your calling him a 20 year old flamer is offensive!

He knows what I am talking about....lol

Sorry, but I have brown eyes and hair, and you wouldn't notice me in a crowd if you knew me. My wife has the flaming red hair.

https://goo.gl/images/1JUKbs

Whatever you say. They wear them when it suits them.

No, I get that.


I understand that... I don't know the actual stats (or if they even exist), but I would guess that the likelihood of a peaceful protest/rally turning violent or destructive goes up considerably when protesters are allowed to conceal their identity.. is that a reasonable assumption to make? So perhaps this isn't about punishing.. as much as it is prevention... isn't that the desired result? To prevent violence from happening? To prevent fires from being set? To prevent stores from being destroyed and looted? To prevent people from being hurt?

So maybe 15 years is too much, perfectly willing to have that conversation, perhaps 5 years is enough... but if you are going to a protest rally and you plan to cover your face.. you should know that if it gets out of hand and you get caught... the punishment will be more severe...

You certainly proved me wrong. By the way, I love the related images. Especially the picture with black panther and Superman. You know those are fictional stories though...

Prevention of crime is the best tool power has to dismantle our rights. I'm sure someone could argue that we shouldn't have secret political ballots because it harder to stop voter fraud.

Gosh. What a coincidence. The recent release and constant news stories about that movie couldn't possibly have anything to do with that Google search, huh?

Right-wing media called him a leftist terrorist. He appears to be a pro-gun conservative


by Tom Kludt @tomkludt
July 20, 2018: 5:02 PM ET


After he was arrested earlier this week by authorities in South Dakota, Mark Einerwold immediately became a character in an ongoing narrative within conservative media, where he was depicted as the latest example of a left-wing domestic terror threat.

Headlines from a variety of right-leaning outlets asserted that Einerwold was a member of "Antifa," the radical anti-fascist group that has reportedly been accused of domestic terrorism by the Department of Homeland Security and has been the subject of stories on the likes of Fox News and Breitbart.



Einerwold was arrested on Tuesday in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, on burglary charges for thefts in surrounding communities. Law enforcement there said they found bomb-making materials and illegal guns in his home, as well as a two-page anti-government document and a jacket that contained the word "Antifa" in his car.

But a cursory glance at Einerwold's Facebook account suggests that he is anything but supportive of Antifa. The profile is littered with pro-Second Amendment memes, and posts that lionize the American flag and criticize welfare recipients.

His "likes" include the Tea Party, online conservative personality Graham Allen and the pro-police movement Blue Lives Matter. Just last month, in fact, Einerwold posted a news report about Antifa -- though he hardly endorsed the group. "This is what the social justice looks like," he wrote. "These are the people taking over our campuses. They are militant, they are dangerous."




Minnehaha County Sheriff Mike Milstead told CNN that local reporters spotted the jacket as police removed it from Einerwold's vehicle.

The day after the arrest, Minnehaha County Sheriff's Captain Jason Gearman said at a press briefing that the "association with Antifa really concerns us."

Milstead said the jacket remains Einerwold's "only link" to Antifa, but that singular detail soon echoed throughout the right-wing media sphere.

The fringe website Gateway Pundit picked up on the story, running the headline: "Leftist Antifa Terrorist Arrested with Bombs with Plans to Sell to Friends to Kill Law Enforcement." The conspiratorial website InfoWars ran a similar headline for a story written by editor-at-large Paul Joseph Watson: "Cop-Hating Antifa Terrorist Caught With Explosives." And the narrative was pushed by Laura Loomer, a far-right personality, who claimed that Einerwold is representative of the anti-Trump movement.

"This is the 'resistance' the Democrats keep telling you to become a member of!" Loomer tweeted to her 196,000 followers.

Jim Hoft, the proprietor of Gateway Pundit, could not be reached because his voicemail inbox is full. Watson did not respond to a request for comment.

Loomer, who tweeted out a piece about Einerwold that was published by Big League Politics, responded to a direct message on Twitter by pointing out that she "didn't write the story."

She said in a subsequent message that she would cover the matter even if Einerwold turned out to be a supporter of President Donald Trump.

"It's all newsworthy," Loomer said. "We shall see."

Luke Rohlfing, the author of the Big League Politics story, did not respond to a request for comment.

Meanwhile, Einerwold's brother, Bob, insists that all of these descriptions are wildly off the mark. "He's conservative, he's pro-gun rights," Bob Einerwold told the Argus Leader of Sioux Falls. "He can't stand liberals." As for the Antifa" jacket, Bob said, "He didn't wear it out of pride, I can tell you that."

Bob Einerwold could not be reached for comment.

In an interview with CNN on Friday morning, Milstead said the coverage of the arrest went beyond the scope of his department's current findings. He said investigators are aware of Einerwold's social media footprint.

"We never definitively said he's a terrorist but that's what's being reported in some places," Milstead said. "We don't know what his intent was."

"It's something that we've learned is uncontrollable," he said of the media coverage. "People will take stories and it's a little like uncontrolled filtering; it gets changed every time it's told. But that's something we have no control over. We're in the middle of an investigation."

We see it on here all the time. Even if one of their own say anything that doesn't promote the Trumpian jargon, they'll devour their own.

Most of the vandalism is done as false flags. I think project veritas even sponsored them