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Trump's Wall Could Run Up Billions In Unforeseen Costs, Watchdog Report WarnsHuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago Reactions Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email President Donald Trump’s proposed wall on the U.S.-Mexico border could cost billions of dollars more than initially estimated, a watchdog agency warned on Monday. The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, which is part of Congress’ oversight arm, said in a report released on Monday that the Trump administration failed to fully account for several factors in its estimate of the project, including how land ownership, varying topography, and the location of construction could affect the cost of putting up barriers along the border. As a result, the agency warned, the Department of Homeland Security “faces an increased risk” that the proposed wall “will cost more than projected, take longer than planned, or not fully perform as expected.” The Department of Homeland Security initially estimated the wall could cost about $21.6 billion, not including maintenance. But other estimates, including one compiled by Democrats, pegged the cost higher ― as much as $70 billion. “This report exposes what we have suspected would happen for over a year,” Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), the senior Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee, who requested the report, said in a statement. “The Trump Administration, fixated on campaign promises no matter the cost or consequences, is rushing the construction of the President’s completely unnecessary border ‘wall.’ In moving too fast, they have ignored necessary and established acquisitions protocols and plan to build a multi-billion dollar border wall where their own analysis shows it is not a priority.” A DHS spokesman said it would be “misleading and inaccurate for GAO to say that progress is not being documented or to imply that progress is not being tracked.” Trump promised hundreds of times on the campaign trail that Mexico would pay for the wall. Yet he has repeatedly threatened to shut down the government if Democrats do not agree to appropriate U.S. taxpayer funding to build it. Republicans have urged Trump not to shut down the government over wall funding before the November midterm elections, fearing that a government funding lapse could spark a backlash against the party, as with previous budget standoffs. Trump has also claimed ― falsely ― that construction of the wall has already begun. “We started building our wall. I’m so proud of it. We started. We started. We have $1.6 billion, and we’ve already started,” he said during a speech in April. A budget deal he signed this year, however, included funding to build only 33 miles of barrier and fencing along the border in areas that are currently unsecured. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apos-wall-could-could-220516066.html I find the entire Wall story infuriating. We have people complaining about Akron having to co-pay for LeBron's school, yet we are wasting money on some dumb-ass project that will never work. I say: Tear Down the Wall!!!
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Well you have to choose between spending that money for the wall or spending even more for welfare for illegals and law enforcement for the criminal element they bring with them.
Choose wisely.
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Hey, whatever happened to Mexico cutting the check for the wall?
Now us taxpayers gotta cover for a wall that won’t work? He wants to shut down the government over something he said another country was gonna pay for?
And everybody knew that stupid ass Wall was gonna be so expensive, it wouldn’t be worth it. Remember, trump kept changing the price of the wall DURING the campaign. It kept steadily rising with each speech.
I dunno who’s more clueless: trump advocating for a wall, or people thinking Mexico was actually gonna cut the check for it.
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Actually, I have already chosen.
The illegal immigrants are just like any other group. There are good folks searching for a better opportunity and bad folks who prey on others.
The ones I have met are extremely hard working people. They have jobs such as doing landscaping services, working in restaurants, nurseries, on farms picking crops, and many service industries.
You know, the jobs that most Americans do not want to do.
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Well, so much for the wisely part.
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Hey, whatever happened to Mexico cutting the check for the wall? LOL.........I was thinking the same thing. I do wonder if how many of his supporters ever believed that? The dude goes around telling one lie after another. And he really doesn't have any shame. He plays on the hate and bias of his followers. And somehow, all is good. We gotta get this guy out of office in the next election.
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Actually, I have already chosen.
The illegal immigrants are just like any other group. There are good folks searching for a better opportunity and bad folks who prey on others.
The ones I have met are extremely hard working people. They have jobs such as doing landscaping services, working in restaurants, nurseries, on farms picking crops, and many service industries.
You know, the jobs that most Americans do not want to do. One Illegal Alien Inmate Has Cost This Utah County Jail $1 MILLION In Medical Bills https://www.mrctv.org/blog/one-illegal-a...n-medical-billsAn illegal alien from Mexico charged with sexually abusing an 8-year-old girl has racked up nearly $1 million in medical bills, courtesy of the American taxpayer.
In fact, 49-year-old Gerardo Valerio-Romero’s tab for cancer treatment has all but bankrupted the local jail in Utah County, where he’s being held awaiting trial for six counts of assaulting his own young stepdaughter, along with eight felony charges for forgery and one count of illegally possessing someone else’s I.D. -- all while getting free medical treatment on the taxpayer's dime. The Washington Post reports: Even at a discount, Valerio-Romero’s cancer treatments have drained the county jail’s medical budget. His case is set for trial early next month, and he’s caught the interest of federal immigration officials who will look at possibly deporting him if he’s acquitted. Until then, he’s in Utah’s court system, where his case is stalled and costs from his treatment continue to climb. Valerio-Romero was arrested back in March of last year, but his trial was postponed twice after he requested a new lawyer and again when he turned down a plea deal, the Post reports. In the meantime, he's managed to cost the county nearly a million bucks in cancer treatments. The criminal alien’s medical bills have threatened the county jail’s bottom line so bad, in fact, that Sheriff Jim Tracy announced he was resigning effective August 3, largely thanks to budgetary stress stemming from having to fork over Valerio-Romero’s medical costs and figuring out which governmental body bears responsibility for paying it. Now, the County Commission is scrambling to shift tax dollars around from other public services so they can cover this one inmate’s mounting expenses – despite the fact that he shouldn’t even be here in the first place. Keep in mind (if you can stand to hear it) that this is just one illegal alien inmate in a sea of similar stories across the country. The Center for Immigration Studies estimates illegal aliens make up roughly 28 percent of all federal inmates. Given there are about 183,800 total inmates in our federal prisons, this puts the illegal alien population at about 51,500 individuals. According to the Federal Register, each of those prisoners costs an average of $31,977.65 per year, meaning that illegal alien felons alone cost American taxpayers about $1.6 billion annually.And this doesn’t even begin to count those being held in state prisons and local jails, including Valerio-Romero.
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He should just order sandbags and shovels for his base and let them go build the damn thing. They are the only people clamoring for it after all, why should my tax dollars go to it? They don't want their tax dollars used for anything that helps people. We need to start being dicks too.
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Like I said earlier, there are good and bad people in all groups.
I choose to be open-minded. You choose to lump them altogether.
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Like I said earlier, there are good and bad people in all groups.
I choose to be open-minded. You choose to lump them altogether. Vambo hides when he sees his shadow. Dark people scare him.
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We have folks complaining that LeBron is not footing the "entire" bill for his school to help at-risk children. Those same children would attend schools that are being funded by tax dollars no matter what. Yet, those same folks seem to have no problem w/our tax dollars being spent on separating children from their parents and putting them in detention centers.
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Like I said earlier, there are good and bad people in all groups.
I choose to be open-minded. You choose to lump them altogether. I know he's your hommie. 
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Like I said earlier, there are good and bad people in all groups.
I choose to be open-minded. You choose to lump them altogether. Vambo hides when he sees his shadow. Dark people scare him. 
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Well you have to choose between spending that money for the wall or spending even more for bladda bladda bladda... No, we don't. We can choose to spend that money on anything else... on everything else. Because Mexico is going to pay for it.Trump promised. You MAGA GaGa's chanted. The pact was signed in blood, and sealed with your votes. MEXICONot me. Not you. Not any American, Rep or Dem Indy or Non-pol. Mexico. If he wants to fund his wall, here's what he needs to do: 1. Take Air Force One to El Paso. 2. Walk across the Rio Grand. 3. Hold his 10-gallon hat out over the international border and wait for them Pesos to start trickling in. Because if he's truly a man of his word, he will stop bothering us about paying for something he promised us would be free of charge. We should all hold him to his word. He said Mexico. No Clem, not 40YEARSWAITING, not Swish or even Vladimir Putin. Mexico, and only Mexico. Anything else.... and he's a liar. Again. 
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You, Vers and others supporting everything and anything that destroys this Nation scares me. I hope you are scared. I hope you are afraid that a lot of people do not want to accept hate, bias, prejudice, and intolerance as we leave you in the dust as we progress. And I want to make something very clear. There are a lot of minorities that have the same biases as guys like 40. They got to get out the way, too!
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We have folks complaining that LeBron is not footing the "entire" bill for his school to help at-risk children. Those same children would attend schools that are being funded by tax dollars no matter what. Yet, those same folks seem to have no problem w/our tax dollars being spent on separating children from their parents and putting them in detention centers.
And then they make up stories about pedophiles secretly ruling the world... I guess in a way they are right. Trump had these kids kidnapped and some are getting molested in those concentration camps and 'care centers'.
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Hey, whatever happened to Mexico cutting the check for the wall? LOL.........I was thinking the same thing. I do wonder if how many of his supporters ever believed that? The dude goes around telling one lie after another. And he really doesn't have any shame. He plays on the hate and bias of his followers. And somehow, all is good. We gotta get this guy out of office in the next election. You say we gotta get this guy out of office in the next election. And replace him with who? 1. I want the economy to continue growing like it is. GDP growth is excellent and consumer confidence is good. 2. Unemployment is currently very low. 3. Regulations on businesses were repealed. 4. Limited government. 4. We now have a stronger military. * I don't want any of those things to go away so I will vote which ever way to continue that. If no one offers anything like the above, what would be the point of voting for them? In my opinion, its too risky to change to another candidate if the economy is soaring. It may not be all Trump's fault but I would not switch just to switch because someone's feelings are hurt.
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We (The US) should open a bank account in the name of Trumps Wall.
And every time Mexico makes a hefty deposit, we will proceed with the next section of the wall until the bank account runs dry and then wait for Mexico to make another deposit and then so on.....
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report.
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report. GMAFB
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report. GMAFB The Huffington post is a garbage news organization. So is Alex Jones, both post absolute nonsense on a regular basis. You just don't like it because of your confirmation biases.
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Feelings? Are you trying to talk like some tough guy while belittling the opinions of others by accusing them of being soft or sissies?
Here's my problem w/The Wall, tough guy. I don't want to pay more taxes for something that is not going to freaking work. Feel that!
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I get what you are saying about the news source. However, are you also saying that this all a lie and that there will not be a lot of untold costs passed on to the American taxpayers?
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They wish to try to compare pizzagate and Sandy Hook being a conspiracy to an article that actually has some merit to it then expect people to take them seriously.
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They wish to try to compare pizzagate and Sandy Hook being a conspiracy to an article that actually has some merit to it then expect people to take them seriously. You're saying Alex Jones never had a decent point or are you taking the worst of one and the best of another?
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I get what you are saying about the news source. However, are you also saying that this all a lie and that there will not be a lot of untold costs passed on to the American taxpayers? No, the wall is a stupid, symbolic gesture that will do little to stop immigration.
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You're saying Alex Jones never had a decent point or are you taking the worst of one and the best of another?
I'm actually saying that one has political bias for the most part and the other tends to spew radical, abhorrent conspiracy theories. Neither one is without its blemishes yet one is nothing close to the other. You see, FOX News and MSNBC are polar opposites when it comes to political bias. Yet Alex Jones will stoop to almost any level to promote right wing conspiracy theories such as a conspiracy theory on Sandy Hook. He has attacked the very essence of families whose children were massacred. I don't see any comparison there. And here's the dichotomy of it all. In the case of the NFL, our government (Trump), not only tries to tell them how to run their business, he even outlines what the punishment should be for kneeling. In the case of Amazon, he finds it perfectly alright to publicly try to undermine their deal with the USPS. Then when it comes to a baker, he should be able to do business as he sees fit. Do business with whomever he chooses as he chooses. I think you have to pick a side here. Either a business has the ability to run themselves as they see fit or they don't. Trying to pick and choose seems very disingenuous to me. There was a time when conservatives believed in the principal of keeping a "hands off" approach to business. That capitalism ruled the day and businesses should make their own decisions. Now they live in the world of pick an choose. In all actuality, I actually agree with you in principal. I think it feels good to say they shouldn't pick and choose when it comes to Alex Jones. But this isn't the government stopping him from expressing his views, it's a business. According to their terms of agreement, they have every right to refuse his content. So IMO, you either believe they have the right to enforce the actual agreement their users enter into, or you don't.
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1a is the difference. These companies that are banning someone for his view, however ridiculous is either outright trying stomp on his 1a or they are skirting around their rules to impose great restrictions on his 1a. We aren't talking about ISIS on facebook trying to recruit for murder, we are talking about a guy who said and did some things that people don't like.
I can play the same game, leftist used to you have freedom of speech not freedom from consequence until the consequences didn't matter to someone anymore, now they don't want him to speak, taking their ball and going home. To your point it's their right....but it is dangerously close if not already infringing on his 1a rights.
A business should absolutely do what they want to do, but comparing bakers to Facebook is comparing apples and rocketships. I don't see any doughnut shops being hauled into congress for questioning. I don't see brugers having data leaks that concern our government. I definitely don't see cake makers working with Robert Mueller on investigations. I absolutely do not have knowledge of any congressmen asking Wonder bread if they have a monopoly during an interrogation.
I am definitely in the court of "hands off" but this is not a run of the mill "let the market sort it out" situation and you know it.
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My experience with immigrants has been similar to yours. I've only seen them working their collective butts off.
Not to say that some aren't thugs and criminals, I'm sure there are some. But what I've personally witnessed is just people, like my grandparents, coming to America in search of a better life and are willing to work for it.
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1a is the difference. These companies that are banning someone for his view, however ridiculous is either outright trying stomp on his 1a or they are skirting around their rules to impose great restrictions on his 1a. We aren't talking about ISIS on facebook trying to recruit for murder, we are talking about a guy who said and did some things that people don't like. 1A is government restriction only. Private businesses can and should have the right to suppress speech as there are clear financial reasons a company would do so. If I own a jimmy johns franchise and one of my workers all of a sudden decides to use offensive speech on my customers, I should have the right to tell that worker to stop or fire them. If I don't have that right, I run the risk of alienating and losing customers. This is why Facebook got rid of Jones. They are losing customers, and worry that supporting people like Jones will cause them to lose even more.
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Conflating Jimmy Johns and Facebook is not appropriate. Facebook is the biggest social media platform on the planet and it's not close. It is FREE to all and they didn't even bother to give examples....outlines in the article you sneered at where they could have held him to. They said "hate speech" and banned him. Not just that.....they colluded with 3 of the other biggest platforms on the planet to do so.
Our government is involved in Facebook now, like it or not. They've been pulling Zucks ass in front of congress. You might like that he is banned but it's definitely a witch hunt.
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Conflating Jimmy Johns and Facebook is not appropriate. Facebook is the biggest social media platform on the planet and it's not close. It is FREE to all and they didn't even bother to give examples....outlines in the article you sneered at where they could have held him to. They said "hate speech" and banned him. Not just that.....they colluded with 3 of the other biggest platforms on the planet to do so. Facebook is not free. Not by any stretch. Also, collusion only applies to illegal talks. It is not illegal for companies to talk to one another. Our government is involved in Facebook now, like it or not. They've been pulling Zucks ass in front of congress. You might like that he is banned but it's definitely a witch hunt. Actually, I would prefer he stay on FB. I think FB is trash and needs to go away. I think keeping lunatics on FB is the best way to shrink the size of it, by having reasonable people opt not to use the platform. But I can't let what I would like to have happen interfere with what is the right way for freedom to operate. The government has brought in MLB, the car companies, and a whole host of private industries before Congress to ask questions. It does not mean those companies are held to the same standard as the government itself. They still enjoy the freedoms afforded to corporations not hauled in front of congress. BcG, as someone who owns businesses, it would be indeed very scary for me to have the thought that i had to be held to the same standard as the government. If someone uses a software product I made for nefarious purposes, I should have the right to take action against that, especially if people were to think I ENDORSED the behavior. Sometimes an act of omission is just as bad as an act of commission. Leaving Alex Jones on FB is FB saying they support, or at least tolerate, Alex Jones. They have every right to use their own free speech to say "we don't support Alex Jones." The only reasonable way to exercise that speech is by booting him from their platform.
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I love how this convo got hijacked because people started whining about source material.
Nevermind the fact that even the horses mouth can’t keep his numbers straight. And so now we’re talking about social Media AGAIN instead of this stupid ass wall.
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report. GMAFB The Huffington post is a garbage news organization. So is Alex Jones, both post absolute nonsense on a regular basis. You just don't like it because of your confirmation biases. Show me one article from Huffington Post promoting conspiracy theories, hate, or violence. Just one that is obvious. If you do I will agree with you, else you are being ridiculous and you are the one with the bias.
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report. GMAFB The Huffington post is a garbage news organization. So is Alex Jones, both post absolute nonsense on a regular basis. You just don't like it because of your confirmation biases. Show me one article from Huffington Post promoting conspiracy theories, hate, or violence. Just one that is obvious. If you do I will agree with you, else you are being ridiculous and you are the one with the bias. They have an entire section called "White people" where they incessantly rag on people of one specific skin color.
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They have an entire section called "White people" where they incessantly rag on people of one specific skin color.
 Didn’t see that section anywhere, bro.
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FOX News and MSNBC are polar opposites Maybe politically, not even close on reliability and fairness of reporting. MSNBC is obviously anti-Trump and liberal biased, but they also report facts. That's a huge difference from Fox News. Fox makes its own facts to fit it's agenda. They don't always lie, but they rarely tell the whole truth.
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HuffPost Igor Bobic,HuffPost 2 hours 25 minutes ago May as well just post an Alex Jones report. GMAFB The Huffington post is a garbage news organization. So is Alex Jones, both post absolute nonsense on a regular basis. You just don't like it because of your confirmation biases. Show me one article from Huffington Post promoting conspiracy theories, hate, or violence. Just one that is obvious. If you do I will agree with you, else you are being ridiculous and you are the one with the bias. They have an entire section called "White people" where they incessantly rag on people of one specific skin color. link?
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I love how this convo got hijacked because people started whining about source material.
Nevermind the fact that even the horses mouth can’t keep his numbers straight. And so now we’re talking about social Media AGAIN instead of this stupid ass wall.
To hell that damn wall! Trump wants a wall he can build it with sand bags and volunteers as far as I'm concerned. Billions down the crapper while Americans hurt all over the country? smdh
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