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Yea .. Let him be disrespected sitting on the couch. If he doesnt play this year he's DONE.

3 yrs 17.5, just less than 9 guaranteed. It's not my money folks I can't tell them what to do;
But if he WERE signed, what do you think the numbers would read?

One year, five million. Late summer signing, no other options. Other players at his position signed similar contracts earlier in the off-season.

If the hamstring isnt falling off, then you should be practicing.. lol

that should be our team motto

It's more a matter of what I think Dez is worth. If I were Dez and this was the only offer on the table I'd wait until the inevitable injury in a WR corp elsewhere.

If Dorsey doesn't want to sign him it would make more sense to just not offer him at all. For me, there is no question he has more value than Pryor who we offered $8mil.

He isn't the same player he was 5 years ago but he can still play the position. My evaluation of his reputation is that his problems, and yes he has had problems are overstated.

I know that Sashi offered Pryor 8 mil, I do not know what Dorsey offered him this past year, if anything. I think Pryor got a 4.5 mil dollar contract with 3 mil guaranteed from the Jets.

GUARD...

I'd just like to add that what we offered Pryor (who I think is worth = money to Dez at this point) was during free agency. Not 2 weeks before showtime. The value of any FA signing just before opening day HAS to be less, because you are getting less of a contributor. Less experience with the system, less practice time with the QB. Even less time to settle into the city and get a routine going....as much as we'd love players to be robots, they're people, and any signee will have to settle into a new routine in a new city with new peers and new bosses. Maybe you're better than me, but I have never hit my stride in a new job in 2 week, and that's without a new city being a factor.

Dez turned down 3yrs, 21mil from Ravens if I remember correctly...

So much for Josh working his tail off while absent...

I am not sure if anyone else noticed during the game against the Eagles, but at one point they put the camera on Gordon...man, I don't know, but what I saw was a guy who looked extremely uncomfortable and nervous sitting there on the sidelines...he kept playing with his gum or seeds in his mouth...I think some of you guys are right, Josh looks like he just cannot handle the pressure...hope, I am wrong.

If he hasn't even practiced yet, yeah its a small concern. Maybe that guy pushed him too hard when we saw him practicing on hard knocks lol

I think the Brown's receiving corp can be fine without Dez. But putting myself in Dez's shoes, I don't take the Browns offer. I bet on myself and wait.

If we don't sign Dez, I sure hope Gordon can play all year. I agree w/Sun...............those shots of Josh on the sideline looked weird the other night.

They don't have HBO in Gainesville. One of the weird things about Florida. Don't believe me, PM Ballpeen.

peen lives in Tennessee.

J/C

Happy to have Josh back. Baby steps, but hopefully the suspension theories can be put aside. At the end of the day: He can help this football team, and he's here.

Hopefully the hamstring issues aren't any major. Part of me thinks it's just protection; Part Josh not yet being in football shape, part Hue/Todd not wanting to thrust him out there in the final preseason game before he establishes a little bit of chemistry with the quarterbacks.

Hopefully he'll be good to go by the regular season. Josh already appears to be in great shape, so he's got a little over two weeks to get where he needs to be. Perhaps best of all, he's not an immediate need. It seems the Browns have plenty of receiving options between Duke, Njoku, Landry, Higgins and Callaway that can tide us over for another week or two.

I doubt it takes that long, however. I'd expect him full go for the season opener.

Good post.

In the presser, Hue said he hurt it lifting, not running.

could all stem from fatigue though

Update:

'Josh Gordon idle with tweaked hamstring, will likely sit out Detroit game'

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.s...art_river_index

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Also:

'Josh Gordon off NFI, cleared for practice and games, started with walk-through today'

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.s...art_river_index

whether contrived, circumstantial, bad luck, self-inflicted, etc ... nothing in JG's life or career is normal or easy

And so much for those who claimed the NFL didn't have to okay his return before he could practice.

Just looked up the definition of UNDERSTATEMENT and BAM there it was ... your post ...

I think the term many used was "reinstated". He did not need "reinstated", as he was not suspended. Yes they had to clear him to play, but that is a formality, not due to some suspension.

j/c:

This board is amazing at times. Consider:

--Hue's mom dies and one hour after finding out the news, Hue is vigorously coaching his team. Yet, he is called weak and fake.

--Denzell Ward get trashed for making a tackle because he "wrapped up the guy he was tackling.

--Josh Gordon skips out on TC and has been suspended more often than not and he is defended vigorously.

I thought the criticism of Ward came from his coach? Maybe I missed a post or two

lets not get facts in the way of calling out the bored

That wasn't a fact. While his coach did get on his ass, guys 4Life have repeatedly dissed Ward. That is a fact. You can also go to the other thread and read how we should have taken Chubb and bets about who will or will not be an all-pro.

Btw........it's spelled "board," rather than "bored." I am feeling the latter right now. Bye for now.

Yet Gordon has proven talent, Ward has proven ability, and Hue has proven very little at this level. So I see both sides, right in the middle where you live.

10 bucks says Vers started giggling like a school girl when he typed this out.

We'll never know but Bads use of bored could go either way in it's intended meaning.

Old dawgs are wise I have often refer to this board as the bored in off season.

Gordon's main talent, unfortunately, if for being suspended. Let's not brag too much on him until we actually see him on the field week 1.

Completely agree... at best he's our third WR and has zero offers... five million is pretty damn good... if he doesn't want it no big deal..

i could see him on Pats now that decker retired with edelman's pending suspension..if you want a one year deal to pad stats for the new contract, probably the best place

JG won't start against the Steelers:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/27/hue-jackson-josh-gordon-wont-be-a-starter-week-one/

That's fine. Don't need him as a 'starter'; we need him there as a player and contributor.

Yeah, it just means he'll play the second snap lol.

Today's JG's presser:

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/video/josh-gordon-it-s-good-to-be-back-i-m-right-where-i-need-to-be

get him in there the first chance ... but I'm okay with "starting" Higgins. He's earned it

Is Mr. Dependable even practicing yet?