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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Thanks for that.

Mea culpa.


No need for the mea culpa. You called it like it was, a dog and pony show.

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Oh, I know trump has done a lot of dumb things, no doubt.


But "How can something be a leak that isn't true?"

Seriously?

It's this easy: I make up something, then 'leak' it to the press. They print it, with no corroboration or investigation.

Simple.

Just like woodward with his book he's going to make a ton of money off of. It doesn't need to be true, it needs to be salacious.

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No, I really thought you understood the definition of leak. Something that isn't inside of something can't leak out. Making something up isn't a leak.

You seriously saying that anything made up is a leak? lmao

leak;

1. accidentally lose or admit contents, especially liquid or gas, through a hole or crack. hole, opening, aperture, puncture, perforation, gash, slit, nick, rent, break, crack, fissure, rupture

2. of secret information) become known. disclosure, revelation, exposé, leakage, tip-off, hot tip


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No, I really thought you understood the definition of leak. Something that isn't inside of something can't leak out. Making something up isn't a leak.

You seriously saying that anything made up is a leak? lmao

leak;

1. accidentally lose or admit contents, especially liquid or gas, through a hole or crack. hole, opening, aperture, puncture, perforation, gash, slit, nick, rent, break, crack, fissure, rupture

2. of secret information) become known. disclosure, revelation, exposé, leakage, tip-off, hot tip



What the hell does this mean?





This wasn't some "leak". This was either someone knowing something but afraid to put their name to it, OR made up.

So, you're saying I can make up anything I want, and then leak it, and it should be treated as truth?

Anonymous. No need to fact check/verify anything? Neat. Interesting what passes for journalism now.

Why is everyone that could be involved denying it? Trust me, it's not the money or the job. If it was true, and verifiable, whoever it was would have more money than they could count.


If it was true, putting a name to it, and verifying it, would certainly lead to 'saving' this country.

Instead?


Look, really, if this is the kind of journalism you believe, guess what? Trump isn't going to be president forever. At some point, a dem. will be president. You okay with the 'other side' making stuff up, and are you ok with people believing it just cause it was published?

Somewhere there's an editor loving this.

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Once again, the White House is looking for the "leaker" and Trump tweeted this... "TREASON?".

Neither could be true if it was "made up".

I've never considered you a blind Trump supporter but this certainly qualifies as borderline.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

Look, really, if this is the kind of journalism you believe, guess what? Trump isn't going to be president forever. At some point, a dem. will be president. You okay with the 'other side' making stuff up, and are you ok with people believing it just cause it was published?


If the White House starts looking for who "leaked the story" I would consider that there must be some truth to it. You keep focusing on the story while my point is the reaction of the White house and Trump to the story.

I'm seriously confused by the fact you can't seem to grasp that when the White House is, "looking for the leaker" and Trump tweeted "TREASON", that THEY'RE the ones who provided the validity to the story. Before that time, I had no idea what to make of it.


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Dude, you are operating under the assumption the op/ed essay is true.

Insubordination would be the term if it isn't true.






So, answer this: You are fine with (if it turns out to be) made up stories to attack someone?


Look, woodward has a book he's trying to sell. I get why he hypes the bull crap.


For this person that supposedly wrote the op/ed essay? Put your name out there. Otherwise, any one can make up anything they want. No verification or proof needed.

You good with that pit? I've heard stuff about you. From anonymous sources of course. thumbsup

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Keep dodging the truth Arch.

I told you that I had no idea if the story had any validity to it.

UNTIL the White House started saying they were looking for the leaker. You do know what a leak is now that I posted the definition of the word leak, right?

Trump asked on Twitter if it was "TREASON?"

If it's a leak, as the White House has claimed, it wasn't "made up". You don't look for someone inside the White house that leaked something that was never there to be leaked.

This is basic 2+2 stuff.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG


I told you that I had no idea if the story had any validity to it.


And yet, here you are believing it.


I ask you AGAIN: If someone made up lies about you, you'd just ignore them?

Come on pit. I know you better than that.

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I wouldn't call something a leak that isn't a leak. The reaction to the story told the story.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I wouldn't call something a leak that isn't a leak. The reaction to the story told the story.


Okay. Have it your way. I just saw you're taking potshots at me in a different thread over this.


You have to be you.

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Yes, I can't seem to ignore what the word leak means. You got me! lmao


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG

If the White House starts looking for who "leaked the story" I would consider that there must be some truth to it.


That's my take as well. Personally, I'm hoping it was Sarah Huckabee Sanders...


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Yes, words have meaning.


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I'm hoping it was Sarah Huckabee Sanders...


Suspect #1 was Mike Pence due to a word, "Lodestar" being used.
He has used that word in speeches.

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It is probably someone we never heard of.

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I am beginning to think, if it is real, it is from someone who is not as Senior an Official as they let on to be.

There are something like 1000 people working in the White House.

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I have a feeling this will only help Trump. Nobody like a squealer.

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Originally Posted By: pfm1963
I have a feeling this will only help Trump. Nobody like a squealer.
Exactly why we shouldn't seek to unmask the whistle blowers.

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I have a feeling this will only help Trump. Nobody like a squealer.
Exactly why we shouldn't seek to unmask the whistle blowers.


Snitches get stitches,

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We absolutely have to unmask this person.
They are working to undermine the President of the United States from the inside. That is a National Security Threat!

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I'm hoping it was Sarah Huckabee Sanders...


Suspect #1 was Mike Pence due to a word, "Lodestar" being used.
He has used that word in speeches.



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I have a feeling this will only help Trump. Nobody like a squealer.
Exactly why we shouldn't seek to unmask the whistle blowers.


If this person(s) is found out, his/her life will be ruined. I am sure they took that into account and didn't care.

In today's world, I would be surprised if the identity is not found out.

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Once they are done making the rounds on CNN MSNBC NBC CBS ABC and then write their book, they will be financially sound.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Once they are done making the rounds on CNN MSNBC NBC CBS ABC and then write their book, they will be financially sound.

Perhaps, but there are too many crazies out there and could do someone like this harm. I would not want to be the writer of that article.

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Just maybe, this is a real patriot screaming for help from inside a crazytown white house with the lunatic in plain sight holding the power to destroy our democracy in his hands.

It can not be 'the deep state', because it's somebody Trump put in place.

This is a whistleblower, period.

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Just maybe, this is a real patriot screaming for help from inside a crazytown white house with the lunatic in plain sight holding the power to destroy our democracy in his hands.

It can not be 'the deep state', because it's somebody Trump put in place.

This is a whistleblower, period.


No, Trump put into place people who worked in government before this job. They could be deep state from before they were hired.

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It wasn't me. List of senior officials who deny writing the NY Times op-ed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-h...y-times-n907106

A number of Cabinet and Cabinet-level officials in President Donald Trump's administration rushed to deny Thursday that they were behind the explosive anonymous opinion article published in The New York Times a day earlier.

The author's identity remains unknown, but here are all the Trump administration officials who have gone on the record to deny it was them:

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Vice President Mike Pence:



His office told NBC News that it "definitively denies" that he was the author. His communications director also tweeted that “the Vice President puts his name on his Op-Eds.”


Secretary of State Mike Pompeo:


He told reporters, “It’s not mine” and said The Times should not “have chosen to take a disgruntled deceptive bad actor’s word for anything and put it in their newspaper."
Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats:

"Speculation that The New York Times op-ed was written by me or my Principal Deputy is patently false. We did not,” he said in a statement.


Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen:

“Secretary Nielsen is focused on leading the men and women of DHS and protecting the homeland - not writing anonymous and false opinion pieces for the New York Times,” the agency's press secretary, Tyler Q. Houlton, said in a statement.


Defense Secretary James Mattis:

"It was not his op-ed," chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana White said.


Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney:

"No, Dir. Mulvaney is not the author," a spokesperson for Mulvaney told NBC News.



Department of Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson:

“The Secretary didn’t write the op-ed," a spokesperson for Carson told NBC News.


Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin:

"It is laughable to think this could come from the Secretary," Tony Sayegh Jr., a spokesman for Mnuchin, tweeted.



Department of Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilkie:

“Neither Secretary Wilkie nor anyone else at VA wrote the op-ed," an agency spokesperson told NBC News.



Labor Secretary Alex Acosta:

"The Secretary does not play these sophomoric Washington games. He is definitively not the author," a department spokesperson told NBC News.



CIA Director Gina Haspel:

“No!" Haspel's press secretary Tim Barrett said.
Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway:

"Of course not," Conway told NBC News.



EPA Acting Administrator Andrew Wheeler:

"Acting Administrator Wheeler supports President Trump 100 percent and is honored to serve in his Cabinet. He also believes whoever wrote the op-ed should resign," an EPA spokesperson told NBC News.



Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue:

"No, Secretary Perdue did not write the op-ed," a department spokesperson told NBC News.



Small Business Administration Administrator Linda McMahon:

"Administrator McMahon is not the author," an agency spokesperson told NBC News.



Energy Secretary Rick Perry:

"I am not the author of the New York Times OpEd, nor do I agree with its characterizations," Perry tweeted.



Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross:

"I did not write and am thoroughly appalled by this op-ed," Ross tweeted.



White House Counsel Don McGahn:

Replied, "no," to reporters when asked if he was the author.



Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao:

“For those who have inquired, this is to confirm that Secretary Chao is not the author of the op-ed," a spokesperson told NBC News.



U.S. Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman:

"When you're serving as the U.S. envoy in Moscow, you're an easy target on all sides. Anything sent out by me would have carried my name. An early political lesson I learned: never send an anonymous op-ed," Huntsman said, via a statement tweeted by a spokesperson for the U.S. embassy in Moscow.



Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar:

“No, Secretary Azar did not write the op-ed," an agency spokesperson told NBC News.



U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer:

"I did not write it. It does not reflect my views at all, and it does not reflect the views of anyone I know in the Administration," he said via a statement to NBC News.



Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos:


"Secretary DeVos is not a Washington insider and does not play Washington insider games. She has the courage of her convictions and signs her opinions. She is not the author," Department of Education spokeswoman Liz Hill said in a statement.



U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley:

Haley didn't author the op-ed, a spokesperson for the U.S. Mission to the United Nations said.



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Just maybe, this is a real patriot screaming for help from inside a crazytown white house with the lunatic in plain sight holding the power to destroy our democracy in his hands.

It can not be 'the deep state', because it's somebody Trump put in place.

This is a whistleblower, period.


This person is no patriot.

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I have a feeling this will only help Trump. Nobody like a squealer.
Exactly why we shouldn't seek to unmask the whistle blowers.


If this person(s) is found out, his/her life will be ruined. I am sure they took that into account and didn't care.

In today's world, I would be surprised if the identity is not found out.



I'm sure that in another political climate they could come out to fan fare.

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I hope they come out. I hope it's Ivanka.

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Trump LIVE on FOX at 9 thumbsup

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Trump LIVE on FOX at 9 thumbsup


Damage control... but he will probably create more.

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true talk, i dont care if this was trump, obama, bush, etc. **IF** this is true, it concerns me. 1. someone is actively trying to undermine an elected president. You can hate/love the guy in office, i dont care - that is not right. You want him out, vote him out. You dont like what they are doing policy wise, vote them out. This garbage - is precisely NOT what should be happening.

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true talk, i dont care if this was trump, obama, bush, etc. **IF** this is true, it concerns me. 1. someone is actively trying to undermine an elected president. You can hate/love the guy in office, i dont care - that is not right. You want him out, vote him out. You dont like what they are doing policy wise, vote them out. This garbage - is precisely NOT what should be happening.


I see it this way...

We The People who think the rest of We The People are stupid and deplorable have decided to derail the duly elected President of the United States because We The People know better than You The People!

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If I leak false statements, and you believe them - that IS a leak. A leak of lies.

This person needs to id themselves. Otherwise, it's just what I take it as now: A bunch of hooey.


I would LOVE for proof to come out that Trump has broken the law. Irrefutable proof. That would make it easy.

But, I get it. Those with an agenda will hang onto anything that might be true, in the hope it IS true.

Anonymous reports. I might be hearing of some soon. And, you'll believe them. Right? I need no proof, no verification, no investigation.

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Elizabeth Warren: If Trump is unfit, invoke 25th Amendment to remove him from office

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...rom-office.html

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Elizabeth Warren: If Trump is unfit, invoke 25th Amendment to remove him from office

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...rom-office.html


The fake Indian calling Trump unfit. Surprising!!!


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Elizabeth Warren: If Trump is unfit, invoke 25th Amendment to remove him from office

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...rom-office.html


The fake Indian calling Trump unfit. Surprising!!!


BS reporting. She went on to say that derailing Trump by taking papers and secretly undermining him was wrong.

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Elizabeth Warren: If Trump is unfit, invoke 25th Amendment to remove him from office

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...rom-office.html


The fake Indian calling Trump unfit. Surprising!!!


Trump is a barely sentient senile old man who screams at the TV all day.

Elizabeth Warren is a status-quo centrist politician.

Neither one of them is doing anything useful, but aren't you exhausted by pretending this invalid old man in the throes of dementia isn't just that?

Hell, just come out and say "Yeah, he's a husk, but it advances the agenda i gravitate to"

Pretending otherwise just seems like an unnecessary chore at this point.

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