And I'll be honest - O's religious beliefs didn't matter a whole lot to me. His nationality did. Turns out my 'side' was wrong.
I did a double take on this..
O's nationality is American.... so what is the problem with the American president being an American citizen?
There IS no problem.
Either you didn't understand what I wrote, or I didn't state it coherently enough.
I'll try again: There was a time that Obama's natural born citizenship status was in question. In question by 1 'side'. While that particular 'side' wanted it to be true - it was not true.
This is what 'sides' do. If they dislike the person, they are easy to convince on any little issue that arises.
I've done it. Most have done it, and do it.
Fair, enough, I am glad you clarified.
I try to separate the wishing it to be true, from the likely possibility that it is true. I never considered the birther stuff as anything but conspiracy theorist stuff.
I guess that is why there is such a big market for the conspiracy theory stuff... National Enquirer stuff for the politically inclined.
I am missing that gene I guess. I try to figure out that stuff before accepting what I am being told.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!…. That did not age well.
the resistance needs to be helping Trump with his hurricane rant he's going on currently. my god, dude.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
he started ranting about puerto rico. i seriously tried to decode what he was saying. but it was just too much.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
the resistance needs to be helping Trump with his hurricane rant he's going on currently. my god, dude.
He was actually doing well for about 2 minutes until the PR question and he got a case of diarrhea of the mouth. He must of drank some of the stagnant water down there. SMH
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
the resistance needs to be helping Trump with his hurricane rant he's going on currently. my god, dude.
He was actually doing well for about 2 minutes until the PR question and he got a case of diarrhea of the mouth. He must of drank some of the stagnant water down there. SMH
right. i thought he was doing well with the fema dude giving the brief. at least he tried, i guess.
im trying here.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
this dude is really shook over this book. thats how you know that at the very least, most of it is legit. he's straight up fuming over this.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
the resistance needs to be helping Trump with his hurricane rant he's going on currently. my god, dude.
He was actually doing well for about 2 minutes until the PR question and he got a case of diarrhea of the mouth. He must of drank some of the stagnant water down there. SMH
right. i thought he was doing well with the fema dude giving the brief. at least he tried, i guess.
im trying here.
Hey, your criticism is spot on here. When I heard him say "Oh, I think PR was actually a success" I was like damn... if the Resistor was truly looking out they'd pull the plug on his mic like that woman in Forrest Gump lol
Better yet, Trump needs a timer that is attached to a tazer. Set it for like 20 seconds. If he's still talking at the end of the 20 sec the tazer goes off, sending an electrical pulse that contracts his muscles making it nearly impossible to speak.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
lemme just say, because i dont think i said it before.
whoever the dude/chick who claimed to be part of the resistance, if true, is completely in the wrong writing this op-ed. i just cant get behind something like this.
i get what the person is trying to do, and maybe im going out on a limb here by saying i wouldn't be surprised if it happened to every last president besides Washington in some way. but if thats whats really going on, keep your damn mouth shut.
cause if i was Trump, yea, im absolutely looking for whoever wrote that op-ed. they have to go, straight up, and then imma start my own personal witch hunt and see how many other rats are working for me.
i mean think about it. lets say the situation in the WH is indeed unstable, which even a good chunk of trump supporters would admit.
writing this op-ed just furthered that instability, imo. i mean damn bro. we got people recording convo's. we got trump himself talking about tapes. we got cohen stealing papers off the president's desk so he doesn't sign them.
and btw, when i first heard that, the first thought in my mind was "isnt that a criminal act"?
regardless on if its a super bad policy decision or not, that sounds completely illegal. at the very minimum, completely unethical.
i mean lets be real; i got a ton of laughs out of that book and op-ed. its funny to me, cause essentially it confirms crap we already knew about trump.
but what i dont like from an overall standpoint is the culture in the WH is so toxic that everybody is throwing each other under the bus. i dont care how much i might dislike a certain POTUS, thats not good for domestic or foreign policy issues.
if the WH isn't even united with one another, then we can effectively not look for leadership from the oval office. and thats a pathetically sad statement to ever have to make.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
lemme just say, because i dont think i said it before.
whoever the dude/chick who claimed to be part of the resistance, if true, is completely in the wrong writing this op-ed. i just cant get behind something like this.
i get what the person is trying to do, and maybe im going out on a limb here by saying i wouldn't be surprised if it happened to every last president besides Washington in some way. but if thats whats really going on, keep your damn mouth shut.
cause if i was Trump, yea, im absolutely looking for whoever wrote that op-ed. they have to go, straight up, and then imma start my own personal witch hunt and see how many other rats are working for me.
i mean think about it. lets say the situation in the WH is indeed unstable, which even a good chunk of trump supporters would admit.
writing this op-ed just furthered that instability, imo. i mean damn bro. we got people recording convo's. we got trump himself talking about tapes. we got cohen stealing papers off the president's desk so he doesn't sign them.
and btw, when i first heard that, the first thought in my mind was "isnt that a criminal act"?
regardless on if its a super bad policy decision or not, that sounds completely illegal. at the very minimum, completely unethical.
i mean lets be real; i got a ton of laughs out of that book and op-ed. its funny to me, cause essentially it confirms crap we already knew about trump.
but what i dont like from an overall standpoint is the culture in the WH is so toxic that everybody is throwing each other under the bus. i dont care how much i might dislike a certain POTUS, thats not good for domestic or foreign policy issues.
if the WH isn't even united with one another, then we can effectively not look for leadership from the oval office. and thats a pathetically sad statement to ever have to make.
Let me pose this to you: what if it's all a stunt put in motion by Trump?
We all know he thrives on chaos right? This op-ed creates that within the media and only solidifies his base in their hate of them. Kind of like a "wag the dog".
The other part of this is, considering the level of disorganization and let's say lack of loyalty for lack of a better term, couldn't this be something that Trump could use to keep people within the Admin in line?
Because let's face it, even the people who aren't the Resistor are going to tighten up whatever it is they are doing too because they don't want to be accused of being that person.
It's just so strange to make something so public. I have a hard time believing someone as competent as that would need the validation of their work on such a scale.
It would be like DiCaprio in The Departed writing an Op-ed in the Boston Herald talking about how he was currently infiltrating the local mob boss' organization.
I think it's this in the following order:
1) Largely fiction that the NYT is willing to do minimal due diligence on because even if it is invalidated we'll already be on to something else.
My very close 2) is that it's a wag the dog
and my distant 3) is that the Resistor is a legit character.
At least that's where I'm at right now.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
its certainly possible. i've considered that the op-ed could be a trump plant before, but for different reasons:
to keep selling his merchandise and keep that cash flow going.
i think the book itself is legit. but it could very well be that trump told one of his people to purposely write that op-ed and fool the NYTimes, because lets face it, they would take the bait. any outlet, including fox news, would take it. its too easy.
you get the person with some credibility to write the op-ed (my money is on the kush god). then when they publish it...you bring the go to phrase back:
*lighting strike* The Deep State *thunder*
now you got the media going ham for intel, you got the network heads doing their talking point and "sources", and now you got the trump supporters buy merch cause they know its the deep state thats trying to get Trump.
but thats just me.
anyway, i sell tinfoil hats, buy one get one free. tested and approved.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
So Bob Woodward's book dropped Tuesday and it sounds crazy! I jumped on amazon to see what it cost as a prime member, it's $18. but while I was there I saw that you can listen to it free on audible with a 30 trial. I was going to buy a copy but I think I'll do the freebie and listen to it. Just thought I'd share incase anyone else wants to read it.
He says McMaster said that Trump tweeted Russian propaganda about Ukrainian effort to sabotage the Trump campaign and boost HRC's campaign. Trump wanted AG to start an investigation.
He says Flynn had denied talking to Russians about sanctions 10 times when Priebus, McGahn, and Pence got transcripts of three conversations Flynn had with Kislyak. Flynn discussed sanctions all three times. He goes on to say that when Obama placed more sanctions on Russia during the transition that Putin decided not to react. Trump praised Putin for not reacting which raises suspicion that Trump knew of Flynn's conversations and interactions with the Russian during the transition.
He quotes Dowd as saying that he told Trump he failed him and regretted the day he recommended Ty Cobb. Trump then finds out Cobb could testify against him because he has no privilege. Trump responds, "Jesus" sounding worried,"I've talked a lot with him!" ~ lmao.
Trump said when asked about 'real power' that "real power is, I hate to say it, FEAR"... ~ wth? lol, that's where the Title comes from. He says the book is about a war on Truth.
Trump was miffed about the cost of Troops in Europe and South Korea. Mattis had to tell him "We're doing this to prevent world war 3!" to keep Trump from pulling them out.
Tillerson told him this is why we've had 70 years of piece. Trump wanted to change all the old order.
Trump closes his mind to real info and believes what he wants to believe.
Kelly tries to real in Trump making impulsive decisions without discussing with senior staff. Trump flies off the handle and does things with a lack of information and without considering repercussions.
Gary Cohn stole letter off Trump's desk to keep him from signing. Porter and Cohn delayed, removed, shuffled things to keep Trump from signing. Said Trump signs everything on his desk.~ wow
And I guess this stuff (he talked about it on Maddow) is just scratching the surface. The book is loaded with these things. So, yep I have to hear it all. I'll let you know the juicy bits.
Jesus. They didn’t teach this crap to him at Wharton?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“You’ve got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women,” Mr Trump said, according to Mr Woodward. “If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you’re dead. That was a big mistake you made.”
Mr Trump said it was critical to show no hesitation in denying accusations and go on the attack and push back instead.
“You didn’t come out guns blazing and just challenge them. You showed weakness,” he reportedly told the friend. “You’ve got to be strong. You’ve got to be aggressive. You’ve got to push back hard. You’ve got to deny anything that’s said about you. Never admit.”
ladies, i dont want to offend anybody because sexual assault is serious....but this whole comment by trump had me ROLLING lolololololol.
jeez man.....what a train wreck.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
