DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2018 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 21 Steelers 21 What I saw Game# 1

I saw a team that didn't quit, even when things were going to crap in the second half. They hung in and put themselves in position to win.

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Ben and AB are rusty, they havent played a single down in the preseason. You could tell that, but the way it took over the first half before they got going.

Landry did some nice things today but he wasn't great, if that's the price for a tie, so be it.

I wanted to see more Chubb.

Tyrod absolutely sucked. The line wasn't great, but taylor never stepped up in the pocket. That's what he needed to do. He's so afraid to turn the ball over.

Gordon wasn't supposed to start but he started. Nice misdirection by Hue. He's our best receiver if we could get him the ball.

Special teams is our worst unit. They are awful.

Ward is worth the price of admission.

Garrett is good, but he seems like a non factor vs the run.

Peppers sucked I thought. Especially on special teams. Lining up in lake Erie still...I guess we still lack talent?

Overall the defense wasn't good. A lot of years but a lot of turnovers. I guess that's a trademark of a Williams defense?

6 takeaways, we should have won easily.

We are better than 15 teams. So that's better than the past 15 years after wk 1.

Tyrod Taylor shows why hes on his 3rd NFL team. he lacks the ability to anticapate targets getting open. hes a true bridge qb. nothing will be won with him
Chubb ran hard and physical. I can see him getting more work
did Zeitler pancake anyone. he is way OVERPAID.
I saw the dline get gashed again and the lbers are way too slow
to fill.and hit. Jamie Collins sucks big time.they missed Burgess today.
defense played lights out other wise

Landry was our best WR today. 7 catches for like 107 yards.

Perfectly on pace for 100+ catches for a 5th straight year.

Yep, and his fire got us going. That deal w/Artie drawing two penalties on one play was classic. Juice got into his freaking head, both literally and figuratively. LOL

Some of them were circus catches too. Especially when you factor in the weather/elements.

WAY OVERPAID ...

PS, did he get yardage for the 15 or 30 penalty yards he ALL BY HIMSELF caused by PANCAKING the db ...

Phone autocorrect. Nice nitpick.

How about that catch that was behind him and he scoops it just off the turf and then rolls for an extra couple of yards? Dude is awesome!

Would rather we stop trying to get it to him on drag routes and try getting it to Flash.

Your biggest gripe was his yards per catch ... he averaged over 15 yards a catch yesterday ...

Yup ... not only did we NOT COME CLOSE TO OVERPAYING for VICE GRIPS with that one line above it shows just HOW OPEN MINDED U ARE ...

PS. Did u listen to the game? .. if so, u must have stepped out to go get a beer when the announcer talked about the TUDE and EDGE Landry has brought to the team ... well either that or U SIMPLY IGNORED IT or have NO CLUE how important and how much that particualr intangible brings to a team ....

maybe u oughta take off the hate glasses and try your open minded ones when it comes to Vice Grips .. u don’t need the crystal ball glasses u use when it comes to Bake ...

That was good. But I have a question, it just may be ignorance on my part.

The first penalty was the unnecessary roughness, where Artie got his panties in a twist because of a clean (and yes, enthusiastic, but still clean) block. Then when that flag was tossed he took off his helmet and got the second flag. Was that second flag not a dead-ball foul and then both penalties be assessed? Obviously not, as we had to pick one or the other.

It was a dead ball penalty, but you can only take one of them. We declined the first one and accepted the dead ball penalty because it meant that Burns would be ejected if he received another one.

I thought taking your helmet off and throwing it was auto ejection. Maybe I am wrong.

A Tie is truly a Bitter /Sweet situation ..lol .. We didn't loose , played nose to nose with a play-off caliber Team . Made a come back and killer D stand.. Felt good for the team ..

Other-side is some what negative ; will wait for another day .

I also heard they said the Browns never changed the snap count on ST once the entire game, and that's why the Stoolers got the jump they did on the FG block. So what they are saying is....if we would have changed the snap count - they would have been offside and we would have got a free play and 5 extra yards. . . . seems about Hue.

That isn't on Hue. It's one the Special Team's coach. Man, will you stop w/the constant negative agenda against Hue?

Thanks, I figured as much. I totally get why we picked the penalty we did. Was hoping to see Burns lose it again. Taylor trucked him pretty good at the goal line.

Man, will you stop with the constant love affair. The buck stops with Hue, sir. he sits in the chair. Its on him. Care to explain the poor time management at the half and End of Reg? Or is that not on hue either?

I'm taking that as a no.

Im taking that as you cannot explain his time management thought process.

go ahead and put your reputation on this board behind hue. FYI, wanna make a gentlemans wager hue is 1-3-1 after 5 games and Haley takes over by mid season.

The D got gashed on run plays .. Meder might have looked good up front in that rotation .. Schobert moved and out of position a bunch .. I really like the guy but he can't cover the TE or running back for squat .. Collins seemed to disappear .. Big drop off between our number one and number two Corners .. Having said that , the play of our secondary is much improved ..

Collins had a chance to make a game changing play and didnt

I still can't get over the stupidity of Garrett shoving that guy in the back.

We would have had the ball at the 10 yard line.

Yeah, the comment about Meder is a big one for me.

Jamie looked like he got gassed and or had cramps. He indeed disappeared, but thankfully we had Avery on deck. He was beyond impacting the game and should see more reps.

The biggest thing for me is the flags. Offense, defense and ST. We've always been this team and done it. I'm really sick of it. Get some discipline.

good point about Randall. Outside of one play to Juju (the longer one IIRC) he was a good addition for us.

Not to mention, the single play that turned our team and momentum around. Lets be honest, this was the most pivotal play in the game.

The best part to me are the 4 turnovers forced that were a direct result of us beating a damm good OL ...

MG strip of Conner
MG strip of Ben
Avery strip of Ben

Huh ... maybe it was only 3 we caused by being in the backfield ..

Can someone help me get to 4 please ... *LOL* ...

Either way against that OL thats A GREAT SIGN FOR THE FUTURE ..

I saw Joe Hayden's arm all over Gorden's head on that end zone pass in 3rd qtr.
I saw our rookies make rookie mistakes with Chubb missing a blocking assignment on a blitzing LB and Robinson having multiple offside calls.
Collins looked slow to me.
Taylor needs to get rid of the ball quicker or face getting injured scrambling too much.
Garrett and Ward had a good games.
Peppers looking much better.
Our defense kept us in the game.

I saw an offensive line that needs a lot of work. Whether it is just a matter of time working together or what, it was not very good. They could not open holes for the running backs until late in the second half. Pass protection, I know people will complain about the 7 sacks & additional pressures, but TT was holding the ball a LONG time. Which segways nicely into...

I saw TT hold the ball a LONG time. Without the benefit of seeing the all 22, it is difficult to say whether receivers were not getting open, or if TT just couldn't survey the field well &/or pull the trigger. I'm guessing the latter, as many of the throws he DID make were not into tight spots.

I saw 2 TDs taken off the board when TT underthrew by ~1yd. First was Gordon in the middle of the endzone, broken up by Haden. If that pass makes it to the back of the endzone, it was 6. Second was some kind of slant/seam route that Njoku is breaking free from defender when the ball was in the air. But it was thrown short, defender knocks it down.

I saw Chubb probably lose playing time after poor pass pro. Not a surprise for a rookie RB, but this job will be lion's share Hyde for awhile.

I saw (or at least I think I saw) Duke get that last carry before the FG try in OT. That was a bad playcall by Haley/Hue, but made worse by choosing Duke as the one to slam it up the gut.

I saw Ward show good instincts on his first INT. Nice to see someone not only do their job, but also have a feel for what is about to happen.

I saw defenders who were around and aware when balls were in the air and on the ground. Seems like we've missed out on a ton of picks and fumble recoveries in the past because our guys weren't paying attention or they weren't swarming to the ball. That wasn't the case yesterday.

I saw Garrett get penalized 3 times, 2 of which impacted the game negatively. This is something I hope he cleans up with NFL experience, because he obviously impacts the game positively most of the time.

I saw our LBs fail to avoid/get off blocks to stop Conner. There was a stretch there that we couldn't get him down within 5 yds of the LOS. That is something I loved when I watched Mychal Kendricks...blockers had a tough time getting their hands on him. Our LBs seem solid, but just don't penetrate/shed well on run plays.