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He also cost us a OT win last year in Miami by MISSING ANOTHER!@

Not to speak of LAST WEEK!~

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Originally Posted By: Jaspercane
You know Im hollering for Baker to play (alot of people are). It would be nice to have him ready at the right time but necessity dictates the team gives him his chance now.

He's not one to stand on the sidelines. As the past has proven he will find a way to play somehow. Either in Cleveland or elsewhere.


This ain't college. He's a rookie under contract and he's not going anywhere.


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I don't care about Zane Gonzalez's feelings. This is the professionals. You either have it or you don't. We don't have time to see if he's gonna come around, especially for a kicker.


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He gets paid BIG MONEY to make those kicks....especially the chip shot extra points....He cost us the game

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I don't care about Zane Gonzalez's feelings. This is the professionals. You either have it or you don't. We don't have time to see if he's gonna come around, especially for a kicker.


This is how I feel, we have enough struggles with this young team, we can’t be worrying about a scatter leg kicker


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He also cost us a OT win last year in Miami by MISSING ANOTHER!@

Not to speak of LAST WEEK!~


That was Cody Parkey in 2016. We didn't even play Miami last year.

For what it's worth, since then. Parkey has since gone 24/26 on FG attempts and 28/31 on XP attempts, including 15/17 from over 30 yards.

Which is exactly why you don't cut kickers after a bad game.

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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
I don't care about Zane Gonzalez's feelings. This is the professionals. You either have it or you don't. We don't have time to see if he's gonna come around, especially for a kicker.


Same here, big money make kicks!

With Phil Dawson!

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Originally Posted By: BDU
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He also cost us a OT win last year in Miami by MISSING ANOTHER!@

Not to speak of LAST WEEK!~


That was Cody Parkey in 2016. We didn't even play Miami last year.

For what it's worth, since then. Parkey has since gone 24/26 on FG attempts and 28/31 on XP attempts, including 15/17 from over 30 yards.

Which is exactly why you don't cut kickers after a bad game.
Zane lost two games this year.

He also was pretty bad last year, and cost a few. He will be cut in 24 hours.

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Good point.

I forgot about Parkey.

Thanks for the clarification as I go running into the night...................... willynilly

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Originally Posted By: Jaspercane
You know Im hollering for Baker to play (alot of people are). It would be nice to have him ready at the right time but necessity dictates the team gives him his chance now.

He's not one to stand on the sidelines. As the past has proven he will find a way to play somehow. Either in Cleveland or elsewhere.


This ain't college. He's a rookie under contract and he's not going anywhere.


D1 quarterbacks dont usually walk off campus enroll at another school without even talking to the coach there and become the starter as a walk on a year later either. Cleveland will either give him his chance when he feels its time of he will leave contract be damned. He's done it before. And if he tells Cleveland give me a chance or release me they will do it. They have to much invested in him. They are in a bad position to negotiate with this kid. If he Manziel's himself then thats on him. Dont underestimate Baker Mayfield

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He also cost us a OT win last year in Miami by MISSING ANOTHER!@

Not to speak of LAST WEEK!~


That was Cody Parkey in 2016. We didn't even play Miami last year.

For what it's worth, since then. Parkey has since gone 24/26 on FG attempts and 28/31 on XP attempts, including 15/17 from over 30 yards.

Which is exactly why you don't cut kickers after a bad game.
Zane lost two games this year.

He also was pretty bad last year, and cost a few. He will be cut in 24 hours.


I disagree that he lost the Steelers game. The offense was a much bigger issue, and his kick was blocked, from what I've heard, because the Browns didn't change up the snap count and thus Watt was able to get in there. That isn't on Zane.

And what game did he lose last year, and how was he "pretty bad" at all?

The only game you could make a case that Gonzalez lost last year was against the Jets in which he missed two in a three point loss.

Other games he missed? Miss one in a 30-16 loss. Missed one (and an extra point) in a 33-16 loss. Missed one in a 31-7 loss.

That's it. Outside of the New York game, he hit everything else. And in that New York game, he missed both FGs in the first quarter with the scores at 0-0.

So what "few" did he actually cost? And how was he "pretty bad"?

I get we're mad at the kid, but don't just make stuff up.

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