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Dan Bailey is available, but my guess is that we go with Ross Martin. Any other ideas? Is Billy Cundiff available? The Cardinals are awful, do they really need Phil Dawson?

Rumors were Minnesota was calling Bailey and he was waiting for a contender.

I bet Martin gets a call.

Anybody is better than the sad sack we have.

I think Kai Forbath may be on the list... but rams and vikings may also be in the market.

Roberto Aguayo is available and was not horrible for the Chargers in training camp and preseason.

AGE YRS EXP. HEIGHT WEIGHT
Roberto Aguayo 24 2 6'0 205
Dan Bailey 30 7 6'0 195
Connor Barth 32 10 5'11 204
Taylor Bertolet 6
Brandon Bogotay 29 5 6'3 207
Kyle Brindza 25 3 6'0 239
Drew Brown R
Josh Brown 39 15 6'0 202
Dan Carpenter 32 10 6'2 228
Travis Coons 26 4 6'1 200
Billy Cundiff 38 16 6'1 212
Jay Feely 42 19 5'10 208
Sam Ficken 25 3 6'1 191
Nick Folk 33 11 6'1 222
Kai Forbath 31 7 5'11 197
Andrew Franks 25 3 6'1 204
Nate Freese 28 4 6'0 191
Jordan Gay 28 6 6'0 200
Shayne Graham 40 18 6'0 210
Garrett Hartley 32 10 5'9 200
Alex Henery 31 7 6'1 177
Zach Hocker 27 4 6'0 191
Greg Joseph R
Marshall Koehn 26 2 6'0 197
Younghoe Koo 24 1 5'10 195
John Lunsford 24 2 6'1 180
Justin Manton 26 3 6'2 199
Ross Martin 25 2 5'9 183
Matthew McCrane R
Mike Meyer 26 2 6'2 190
Marshall Morgan 6
Patrick Murray 27 4 5'7 182
Nick Novak 37 13 6'0 200
Tom Obarski 25 3 5'10 181
Nick Rose 24 2 6'2 200
Cairo Santos 26 4 5'8 160
Josh Scobee 36 14 6'1 210
Carey Spear 26 4 5'10 190
Shaun Suisham 36 13 6'0 200
Giorgio Tavecchio 28 6 5'10 180
Blair Walsh 28 6 5'10 175


Personally I’d love Bailey but I feel like he’s gonna go to the Vikings. My number two would be Santos. I feel for Gonzalez, I know he tries hard but you gotta make those kicks. Period. Since we drafted him he’s 17-24 on field goals. That’s a 70.8% FG percentage. That’s beyond bad. At the least you should be around 80%.

I count four ex-Browns kickers on this list (Cundiff, Patrick Murray, Ross Martin, and The Coon).

Really?

Four if you include last year. We went 0-fer because of this turd.

he might luck out because of the short week...

There's no way we can keep him on the roster IMO

Crucify someone else, I’m behind Zane on Thursday.

Trade Gordon to Arizona for phil

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They may as well ... the cards don’t need Phil .... *L*

Seriously?

http://dailysnark.com/browns-fans-run-ou...ow-easy-it-was/

can we sign this guy?

I’m all for trading Gordon for a kicker. Heck I’d trade a 3rd or 4th for a really good kicker.

Love this idea.

j/c I'm thinking we might pick up a young guy for the practice squad and kind of put Zane on notice.

In general, I like to think that kickers can't cost you games, but they can certainly win them. Despite today and Gonzalez's obvious struggles, I'm more concerned about the offense.

Ray Finkle!

I can't kick worth schmotz!

I volunteer to miss even more kicks than Gonzales for half his money guaranteed. Maybe if he were getting paid piecework for every kick made. This percentage is way too low.

We are struggling as a team on the cusp of decency. IMO it is just asking way too much to have somebody carry this kicker-person and Tyrod Taylor. It is Hue's fault that he didn't build that into his game plan. Thursday is coming. Whose turn is it to carry whom for that game?

Hopefully we have something for Gordon then.

I have a tryout in the morning

Be interesting to see if former Cowboys’ kicker Dan Bailey can be convinced to sign with one of these kicker-needy teams.

As of yesterday, Bailey had turned down appealing offers from four teams, per source.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1041650096818057216

That's because he's waiting on the Browns.

I wonder how much the Browns players share the fans expectations that just about anything that can go wrong in a game will. Being a kicker has to be fairly nerve wracking, but being the Browns kicker with our winless season hanging overhead and recent history of things going wrong has to be extra rough.

Maybe a fresh start is best for all involved, but cutting players after bad games sets bad precedent, especially in week 2 (if they're doing things right the rest of the time).

#Browns working out kickers today, including veterans Blair Walsh and Cairo Santos, sources say. GM John Dorsey is well acquainted with Santos from his time with the #Chiefs.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) September 17, 2018

Santos it might be

Do it... like I said in another thread - I have no confidence in Zane. I'm not going to sacrifice wins to "hope" he can pull himself outta his slump again like he did last year.

Losing like we did, because we have a kicker who couldn't even bang through an extra point - is unacceptable.

Look at last year, he was in a slump then too and pulled himself out towards the end. I'm not willing to wait, lose more, and see if he can do it again after probably one of the worse performanes from a kicker I've seen.

I call yday's game, for Zane, a "total meltdown"....

Your last two points are really the crux of the matter. You keep a QB, or a tackle, or a specimen of a d-lineman in the hopes of him "getting it". Kicker? No. Look at that list of guys sitting on the couch at home. Nick Novak, Santos, Forbath, Walsh, Carpenter... those guys can at least kick an extra point.

Get a guy in here that's reliable.

That's his problem, not ours.


All I know is that it is 10:03am on Monday. I've had time to sleep and get to work, and yet Zane Gonzalez has not yet been released.

WHY, Dorsey??!!?

Browns are trying out kickers today. Gonzalez's is done as a Brown. I like the trade with ARZ. for Dawson Idea. Sounds like Santos maybe the Browns new kicker.

IMO, a lot of teams would've moved on from him last year. He's had a very, very fair shot.

Bye.

I would LOVE this.

Trade Gordon and Gonzalez for a 4th and Dawson.

#donedeal

I see wins that got away, admittedly for many reasons, but this guy failed us. If I can't make field goals, win games, convert PAT's, why am I here. He needs to go.

I am just not that curious about his ego or confidence or mojo or whatever. Proven lack of mental toughness. He can have all the time he needs to discover that or solve his issues or whatever at his leisure. Everybody misses a few. And when it is a few too many, you disappear. I am appalled that he would chat this up with a "my bad, on me, I let the team and all fans down" noise like it matters. If he missed with a last second desperation 62-yard try, I get it. He proved he couldn't do his job repeatedly all game.

Next.

I will welcome Gordon and his nonsense leaving town. I would welcome Dawson. Even aged, what will he do? Miss? If Gonzales missed so often in summer in Aunts-Land, what would he manage in the Lake Effect Bowl of dead of winter here? We have seen Dawson handle it.

Any pick or trade is like a ham sammich in the deal.