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Just incredible

Bradley Chubb who?

Is the earth flying in that kick coming from his plant foot or his kicking foot?

sweeeet

Maybe we suffered Gilbert and Manziel so we could savour Ward and Mayfield. Who knows how the cosmos works but Ward is turning out to be a helluva player.

If Gilbert was half as good as DW we would have quite a combo at CB.

while on the subject of CBs does anyone know the grades on Gaines last week

That picture is bad to the bone

Through five games

Bradley Chubb: 8 tackles/4 asst, 1.5 sacks, 1 PassDef

Denzel Ward: 16 tackles/9 asst, 1 stuff, 1 blocked kick, 1 forced fumble, 1 fumble recovery, 3 INT, 6 PassDef


It's almost unfair.

and this is why no one would hire me as a scout. I wanted Chubb.

Ditto.
I was on the wagon for Darnold & Chubb and my Day 1 reaction was that we screwed the pooch, again, and we needed to dump Dorsey..... I could not be more ecstatic to be so stinking wrong!

That's what I wanted too, but Mayfield was a very close second for me so I wasn't too upset about that pick. Ward at 4 seemed way too high and I wanted Chubb as well. Glad we took Ward.

what, dude only has 8 tackles?

Ya .... and 1.5 sacks playing on the opposite side of one Von Miller ...

He doesn’t have the burst to ever be a real good pass rusher much less a great one ....

I havent paid any attention to him ... has anyone watched him in depth?

How weird is it that we passed on the consensus pics TWICE in the SAME draft, and BOTH our picks are the ones shinning the brightest!

I don't think its too soon to start building John Dorsey way in front of the stadium

Normally 5 weeks in we would be saying " we could have had......"

I was thinking I might want a Dorsey jersey if this becomes a trend.

As long as it comes with a bucket hat ~ I'm in!.

Make your own Dorsey Jersey at home by wearing a plaid button up and throwing a sweatshirt over it!

just clickin'

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-grading-all-32-first-rounders-after-week-5

Grading all 32 first rounders after Week 5

Week 5 of the NFL regular season schedule has been completed, giving us a larger sample size to delve into just how each of the 2018 NFL Draft first-round picks has fared in their respective action so far. Some of the 32 first-rounders have not qualified for a grade either based on small snap counts or not playing altogether. On the other hand, some players have jumped out of the screen and have helped strengthen their teams.

Through Week 5 of the 2018 season, here are how each of the 32 first-round rookies from the 2018 NFL Draft has graded in their first two weeks:

PICK NO. 1: BAKER MAYFIELD, CLEVELAND BROWNS
2018 SEASON GRADE: 89.9
The Browns’ first overall pick put forth yet another strong showing in Week 5 and he is now the only quarterback that has graded above 80.0 in three straight games this season. Week 5 against the Ravens, Mayfield had the best deep passing performance of his young career and completed 4-of-7 deep passes (passes of at least 20 yards downfield) for 90 yards, one touchdown, and a passer rating 141.4 – the fourth-best mark among Week 5’s signal-callers.

PICK NO. 2: SAQUON BARKLEY, NEW YORK GIANTS
2018 SEASON GRADE: 75.9
Barkley’s game-to-game production continues to be consistent even if his play-to-play production remains erratic. In Week 5, the second overall pick once again surpassed 100 yards from scrimmage, but 50 of those yards came on the ground via two breakaway runs (runs of 15+ yards), and another 57 yards came from a catch from a trick play pass that was thrown by wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. No matter how they’ve come, Barkley has still racked up 274 receiving yards this year, which is the most ever recorded by a rookie running back in the first five weeks of a season.

PICK NO. 3: SAM DARNOLD, NEW YORK JETS
2018 SEASON GRADE: 52.7
Darnold earned the highest single-game grade of his career in his Week 5 matchup against the Broncos after he completed 10 of his 22 attempts for 198 yards and three touchdowns. Like Mayfield, Sam Darnold had a career day when it came to stretching the field and completed two of his three deep passes for 111 yards, and two exquisitely thrown touchdown passes to wide receiver Robby Anderson. It was a promising performance, but it wasn’t without fault, as Darnold managed an accuracy percentage of just 60.0% when throwing from 1-19 yards downfield – the worst mark of the week.

PICK NO. 4: DENZEL WARD, CLEVELAND BROWNS
2018 SEASON GRADE: 78.9
The Browns faced their fair share of criticism for taking the former Ohio State cornerback ahead of Bradley Chubb in the 2018 NFL Draft, but five games into the season, it looks like they made the correct decision. It was business as usual for Ward in Week 5 against the Ravens, and from 14 targets, he allowed just five receptions for 60 yards, logged an interception and yielded a passer rating of only 19.9 on the throws into his primary coverage. Over the last five games, Ward has allowed an average of just 0.92 yards per coverage snap, which is the best mark among first-year players at the position.

PICK NO 5: BRADLEY CHUBB, DENVER BRONCOS
2018 SEASON GRADE: 64.1
After starting the season off in very strong fashion, the fifth-overall pick of the draft has simmered down a little bit over the last three weeks and has earned game grades of 47.7, 56.7 and 59.5 in Weeks 3, 4 and 5, respectively. Week 5 against the Jets, Chubb was limited to a single quarterback hurry on one of his 18 pass-rushing snaps and managed just a single stop on 23 run defense snaps.

Yeah, we'd be sporting Rosen & Chubb if I had anything to say about it. Five weeks in, I'm happy as hell Dorsey went a different direction. Not to mention Chubb, Avery & Calloway. With the possible exception of Chubb, the other two were nowhere on my radar. And I wanted Sony Michell over Chubb. So happy with our draft so far, even if it does take 3 years to see if it's a good draft or not.

I was all about the Darnold at #1, and screamed at the TV when they called Mayfield. But I was one of the few who wanted Ward at #4. Early in the process I was on the Fitz train, but after the FA pickups, I saw Ward as the best option. I thought Chubb was an unnecessary luxury when we already had Garrett and Ogbah.

I hated both picks.

I happily eat crow. Pass the salt please.

I shall not doubt Mr Dorsey again.

I haven’t heard a word about Fitzpatrick. How has he been playing ?

Not to be confrontational, but I strongly disagree w/this take.

I have been supporting Williams and his schemes, but he was full of crap when he complained about Ward's tackling.

I followed the dude in college and he is a very solid tackler who displays great fundamentals. Williams was out of bounds on his comments.

Vers is right Ward was an excellent tackler at tOSU

I was Rosen and Fitzpatrick. But the same thing. This is why Dorsey works on building NFL rosters and I do not. Glad to be wrong in this case.

Just curious what the rest of the rankings are? Is there anyone else higher than our 2 picks?

He used to wrap up. now he chips with his shoulder. I have no idea why GW is teaching the DBs to tackle that way instead of wrapping up. Is this something particular now to DBs in the NFL? Anyone know?

the only weird thing to me is that it seems like there's 1-2 drives per game when our defense randomly goes into a funk ... misses some tackles, soft coverage, no pressure, etc.

I think it's just fatigue, but then the next series they're GOOD again. Lol it's a good defense no doubt. Just wish we had no lapses

I gotta admit, I wasn't sure about either of our 1st rounders... But man, was I ever wrong.. So happy to be this wrong.

Baker is showing all the right signs and Ward is already playing like a guy that's been out there for years.

HE used to wrap up. now he chips with his shoulder. I have no idea why GW is teaching the DBs to tackle that way instead of wrapping up. Is this something particular now to DBs in the NFL? Anyone know?[/quote]

I think because they are usually giving up 25-50 pounds to the running back, they do not want their DB's wrapping b/c they are concerned with them injuring their shoulders.

I was on the Ward train. But That was at 4. I was hoping TT would have been better and at #1 we would draft Barkly or Chubb. I was not as high on Chubb for the Browns because I felt Ogbah was a solid DE, but would not have been too upset if we went all D with our first 2 picks. Ward was a no-brainer to me considering how bad the defensive backfield was last year.

Hindsight…. I am soooooo glad we got our QB in Mayfield.

I hope Ogbah picks it up a bit because in my opinion he is the only player that has not flashed on this D yet.