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Trump says ‘we'll have to make a decision’ on Kavanaugh’s future if accuser gives ‘credible’ testimony http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...to-testify.htmlPresident Trump said Wednesday he would have to “make a decision” about the future of Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court if accuser Christine Blasey Ford gives “credible testimony” about her allegation. Speaking to reporters outside the White House, the president said if Ford appears before the committee “and makes a credible showing, that will be very interesting and we'll have to make a decision.” “If she shows up, that would be wonderful,” Trump said. “If she doesn't show up, that would be unfortunate.” Yet it’s not clear if the California professor who claims Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her more than 35 years ago will ultimately accept an invitation to testify on Capitol Hill, amid an impasse with Republicans, who have invited her to elaborate on her claims Monday. It comes as a growing number of Republican senators are saying it’s time move ahead to a vote if Ford doesn’t show up for the planned hearing. Ford says she doesn't want to appear until after an FBI investigation takes place, something law enforcement sources tell Fox News is not happening. "If we don’t hear from both sides on Monday, let’s vote," Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., tweeted.
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After learning of the allegation, Chairman @ChuckGrassley took immediate action to ensure both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh have the opportunity to be heard, in public or private. Republicans extended a hand in good faith. If we don’t hear from both sides on Monday, let’s vote. 10:13 PM - Sep 18, 2018
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South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, dismissed the calls from Democrats for the FBI to investigate the allegations before Ford testifies. Graham said those calls are “not about finding the truth, but delaying the process till after the midterm elections.” “It is imperative the Judiciary committee move forward on the Kavanaugh nomination and a committee vote be taken ASAP,” he said. Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake, who had previously called for Ford to testify before voting on Kavanaugh's confirmation, indicated he's willing to move forward if she doesn't show. "I think we'll have to move to the markup," Flake told CNN. Trump said Wednesday he wants the Senate to move quickly, expressing sympathy for Kavanaugh and saying he has an “unblemished record.” “This is a very tough thing for him and his family and we want to get it over with,” the president said. Meanwhile, a spokesman for George W. Bush said the former president still stands by his support for Kavanaugh, who worked in his White House. “Laura and I have known and respected Brett Kavanaugh for decades, and we stand by our comments the night Judge Kavanaugh was nominated: ‘He is a fine husband, father, and friend – and a man of the highest integrity. He will make a superb Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States,’” Bush said. Late Tuesday, Kavanaugh’s accuser demanded a "full investigation" by the FBI before she attends any congressional hearing or "interrogation" into her accusations. In response, Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, who said Ford is still invited to speak to the committee, countered that "nothing the FBI or any other investigator does would have any bearing on what Dr. Ford tells the committee, so there is no reason for any further delay.” Republicans had repeatedly invited Ford and Kavanaugh to testify next week after delaying a planned Judiciary Committee vote that had been scheduled for Thursday. Kavanaugh accepted the committee's invitation, but Ford stayed quiet until Tuesday night. A federal law enforcement official told Fox News Ford's insistence on a FBI probe is "totally inappropriate." "It's totally inappropriate for someone to demand we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 35-year-old allegation when she won't go under oath and can't remember key details including when or where it happened," the official said. A highly-placed law enforcement source also said there won’t be a FBI investigation because there are no allegations a federal crime was committed. The bureau has also already conducted a background investigation.
“This is a political issue, not a law enforcement one,” the law enforcement source said.The demand for a FBI investigation was also sure to add fuel to Republican claims that the allegations -- which were known to ranking Judiciary Committee Democrat Dianne Feinstein in July, but revealed to federal authorities just last Thursday -- are part of a concerted effort to stall Kavanaugh's nomination at the last minute. "While Dr. Ford’s life was being turned upside down, you and your staff scheduled a public hearing for her to testify at the same table as Judge Kavanaugh in front of two dozen U.S. Senators on national television to relive this traumatic and harrowing incident," Ford's attorneys wrote to Grassley. But Republicans on the Judiciary Committee directly disputed that claim Tuesday night, writing in a statement that Ford had been offered a chance to testify privately, and had never been told she would need to sit near Kavanaugh. In the letter, Ford's lawyers went on to assert that Ford's family "was forced to relocate out of their home" and that "her email has been hacked, and she has been impersonated online." The document concluded: "We would welcome the opportunity to talk with you and Ranking Member Feinstein to discuss reasonable steps as to how Dr. Ford can cooperate while also taking care of her own health and security." The Judiciary Committee statement Tuesday night condemned any threats against Ford, but maintained that her request for an FBI probe was unfounded. "The FBI has indicated to the committee and in public statements that it considers the matter closed," Grassley and other top Republicans wrote. "The FBI does not make credibility determinations. The FBI provides information on a confidential basis in order for decision makers to determine an individual’s suitability. The Senate has the information it needs to follow up with witnesses and gather and assess the relevant evidence." The Republicans also disputed the suggestion in Ford's letter that the committee had not been accommodating: "Contrary to suggestions by Dr. Ford’s attorneys, the committee had no plans to place Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh on a panel together, and never indicated plans to do so. Grassley’s staff offered Dr. Ford multiple dates as well as a choice of providing information in a public or private setting." Meanwhile, Feinstein and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer released statements backing Ford. "We should honor Dr. Blasey Ford’s wishes and delay this hearing," Feinstein said. "A proper investigation must be completed, witnesses interviewed, evidence reviewed and all sides spoken to. Only then should the chairman set a hearing date." Feinstein had told Fox News earlier Tuesday that she could not be sure Ford was being entirely truthful. "This is a woman who has been profoundly impacted by this," Feinstein said. "Now, I can't say everything's truthful. I don't know." In a separate statement, Schumer said an FBI probe would be consistent with "precedent," adding, "Dr. Ford’s call for the FBI to investigate... demonstrates her confidence that when all the facts are examined by an impartial investigation, her account will be further corroborated and confirmed." Ford went public on Sunday, alleging that Kavanaugh forced himself onto her and covered her mouth in the 1980s, when Kavanaugh was 17 and she was 15. Ford did not mention the incident to others by her own admission until 2012, according to The Washington Post, when her therapist recorded her claim that four individuals had committed the assault.Ford has since claimed that the therapist incorrectly transcribed that detail, and that she had said there were only two people in the room. Her husband has maintained that Ford mentioned Kavanaugh in the therapy sessions. Ford also told The Post she could not remember in whose house the alleged incident occurred, the exact month of the episode, or why there was a gathering there.
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The words 'dereliction of duty' being thrown around about GOP senators who don't want to allow a brief investigation. That's pretty serious.
The witness is dealing with death threats, she had to leave her home, and she is being leaned on hard by the GOP. Sad.
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“This is a political issue, not a law enforcement one,” the law enforcement source said. This can be used for several topics on this forum.
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The words 'dereliction of duty' being thrown around about GOP senators who don't want to allow a brief investigation. That's pretty serious.
The witness is dealing with death threats, she had to leave her home, and she is being leaned on hard by the GOP. Sad. What are they supposed to investigate? They don't have a crime scene, they don't have a time line and they have no reason for them to all be there the only other people she remembers being there say they were not there. So other than her giving her sworn testimony under oath what's left to investigate? What exact crime was committed? Once again I'll ask you the question... If someone accused you of a sex crime 40 years ago would you expect them to prove it or you prove you didn't?
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I get what you are saying and if it was just some guy in some normal job you would be on point with your comment. BUT this is one of the highest offices in the land which requires the highest quality of person in it.
I don't know how you prove or disprove it, but it does matter and should be investigated to see if there is any corroboration. If it comes down to he said she said with absolutely nothing else then you vote, not until then.
Forcing a quick hearing without any investigation or witnesses is more or less saying it does not matter. We'll see how that goes over with women at the ballot box.
BTW - There is now a letter of support from people (women I think) who went to school with her that states how professional she is and that her integrity is very high.
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Dem Sen. Hirono lashes out at 'men in this country' urging them to 'shut up and step up' amid Kavanaugh claims http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...ugh-claims.htmlDemocratic Sen. Mazie Hirono blasted “the men in this country,” blaming them for sexual assault and urged them to “just shut up and step up” amid allegations of misconduct against President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh. At a press conference Tuesday evening, the Hawaii Democrat made the sweeping generalization against “the men” in the U.S. for “perpetuating” sexual assault. “I expect the men in this country and the men on this committee, because we all signed onto this letter, to demand an FBI investigation,” Hirono said, referring to a request that the FBI investigate the claims made by Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford. “But really, guess who is perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It’s the men in this country. And I just want to say to the men in this country: just shut up and step up, do the right thing for a change,” Hirono said.“Not only do women, like Dr. Ford, who bravely comes forward, need to be heard, but they need to be believed,” Hirono added. “We cannot continue the victimization and the smearing of someone like Dr. Ford.” Ford’s identity was revealed in a Washington Post article published over the weekend, following an anonymous letter obtained by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., alleging sexual assault. The California-based professor said that Kavanaugh, 36 years ago while in high school, pinned her down, tried to remove her bathing suit and put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream. Ford alleged that she was in the room with Kavanaugh and another man, who has been identified as Mark Judge. Both Kavanaugh and Judge denied the allegations. “This is a completely false allegation. I have never done anything like what the accuser describes—to her or to anyone,” Kavanaugh said in a statement Monday. “Because this never happened, I had no idea who was making the accusation until she identified herself [Sunday.]” The Senate Judiciary Committee invited both Ford and Kavanaugh to testify in either a public or private setting over the allegations. Kavanaugh said he was “willing” to speak to the committee “in any way” deemed appropriate to “refute this false allegation” and to defend his “integrity.” Ford’s attorney Monday suggested she would be willing to testify before the committee under oath, but has yet to officially accept the invitation to appear before the panel. Ford has said she doesn’t want to appear until after an FBI investigation takes place. A highly-placed law enforcement source told Fox News on Wednesday that there will not be an FBI investigation into the allegations leveled at Kavanaugh. The source told Fox News there cannot be a criminal investigation, because there is no crime alleged where the statute of limitations hasn't run. The source also said there are no allegations of a federal crime. The FBI only handles background check investigations, the source said, and should they find information, they would pass it along. "This is a political issue, not a law enforcement one," the source told Fox News. The committee has already delayed Kavanaugh's confirmation vote, which was originally scheduled for Thursday. A hearing is now scheduled for Monday. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said that the hearing to examine the allegations set for Monday could be canceled if Ford does not accept the committee's invitation. Grassley said that his office has reached out several times to Ford and her attorneys to discuss her allegations, but has not received a response.
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I get what you are saying and if it was just some guy in some normal job you would be on point with your comment. BUT this is one of the highest offices in the land which requires the highest quality of person in it.
I don't know how you prove or disprove it, but it does matter and should be investigated to see if there is any corroboration. If it comes down to he said she said with absolutely nothing else then you vote, not until then.
Forcing a quick hearing without any investigation or witnesses is more or less saying it does not matter. We'll see how that goes over with women at the ballot box.
BTW - There is now a letter of support from people (women I think) who went to school with her that states how professional she is and that her integrity is very high. Feinstein had the letter since July, ~ 2 months is not enough time to investigate it? Have you seen all the women coming forward willing to testify on Kavanaugh behalf and how professional he is and that his integrity is very high?
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Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. I wouldn't trust them either.This isn’t about seeking justice, it’s about protecting Kavanaugh — just as the Senate's 1991 proceedings were about protecting Clarence Thomas. Kurt Bardella Sep.19.2018 As criticism of Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh mounted this week, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, scheduled a hearing for Sept. 24 in order to address the sexual misconduct allegations made against the nominee by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford. Kavanaugh and Ford were both invited to the hearing. On Tuesday night, however, Ford’s lawyers sent a letter to Grassley calling “for a full investigation by law enforcement officials” to “ensure that the crucial facts and witnesses in this matter are assessed in a non-partisan manner, and that the Committee is fully informed before conducting any hearing or making any decisions.” It seems that unless something changes, Ford will not be accepting Grassley's invitation. Good. If history has taught us anything, it’s that Senate Republicans cannot be trusted to provide Ford with a level playing field and a fair hearing. As Anita Hill pointed out in an essay published Tuesday in the New York Times: “That the Senate Judiciary Committee still lacks a protocol for vetting sexual harassment and assault claims that surface during a confirmation hearing suggests that the committee has learned little from the Thomas hearing, much less the more recent #MeToo movement.” So far, the Republican response only bolsters Hill’s observations. Appearing on “Good Morning America,” former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie claimed that the whole thing was “extraordinarily unfair to Judge Kavanaugh." Even Grassley released a statement questioning the timing of the allegations, if not Ford herself. And these are the moderate reactions. As constructed, this committee hearing isn’t about seeking justice, it’s about protecting Brett Kavanaugh, just as the committee’s 1991 proceedings were about protecting Clarence Thomas. Anita Hill, then a law professor, accused Thomas of sexually harassing her when he was her supervisor at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. (Thomas has denied these allegations.) Hill went before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was subjected to brutal questioning from skeptical senators. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, currently one of the Senate Judiciary Committee's most senior members, was also one of the politicians who questioned Hill. At the time, Hatch declared that he believed “the Judge [Thomas] is telling the truth” and characterized Hill’s accusations as “scurrilous allegations.” All Ford and her lawyer needed to do was review the transcript from the Judiciary Committee’s proceedings in October of 1991 to get a feel for how a hypothetical hearing might play out Some things never change. In fact, all Ford and her lawyer needed to do was review the transcript from the Judiciary Committee’s proceedings in October of 1991 to get a feel for how a hypothetical hearing might play out. It’s highly probable that the committee chairman would, as Joe Biden did almost three decades ago, open with a statement declaring that sexual harassment is a very serious matter. The purpose of the hearing is to “air specific allegations against one specific individual, allegations which may be true or may not be true," said Biden, then a Democratic senator representing Delaware. Biden's relatively weak rhetoric was undercut further by the statements of his peers. “We are here this morning to attempt to discern the truth in some rather extraordinary allegations made against this nominee,” the late Sen. Strom Thurmond noted at the time. “Before we begin, I want to emphasize that the charge of sexual harassment is a grave one and one that each Senator on this committee takes with the utmost seriousness.” Republicans might also try and use Ford’s understandable reluctance to go public as a weapon to undermine her accusations and paint her memories or motivations as suspect, just as former Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., attempted to do to Hill when he asked her, “how could you allow this kind of reprehensible conduct to go on right in the [EEOC] headquarters, without doing something about it?” If she appeared, Ford would likely be asked what type of evidence she could produce to support her accusations. For example, Hill was asked by Specter why it hadn’t crossed her mind to collect some proof, claiming that “her evidentiary position would be much stronger if [she] had made some notes.” Republicans like Specter tried hard to use the passage of time to downplay the allegations against Thomas, a tactic that would almost certainly be used to defend Kavanaugh today. “In the context of Federal law limiting a sexual harassment claim to 6 months because of the grave difficulty of someone defending themselves in this context," Specter said, "what is your view of the fairness of asking Jude Thomas to reply 8, 9, 10 years after the fact?" I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans even tried to paint Ford as the pursuer of Kavanaugh in some way. After all, Hill suffered the indignity of being asked if she was “disappointed and frustrated that Mr. Thomas did not show any sexual interest in her?” The bottom line is this type of congressional hearing is effectively rigged against Ford. And it seems that both she and her lawyer have already realized this. The structure of congressional hearings is always biased towards the members. Witnesses are not permitted to ask questions of senators or of other witnesses. There is no real cross-examination like there is in a court of law. There are no protections for the witnesses. If Grassley and Senate Republicans are serious about exposing the truth, they should support Ford’s call for an independent investigation. If Grassley and Senate Republicans are serious about exposing the truth, they should support Ford’s call for an independent investigation and not allow the political calendar to dictate how they proceed. If Kavanaugh is serious about clearing his name, he should be the very first to forcefully support a deliberate, neutral and fair process. And if there ever is a hearing, in the near or distant future, Ford should be permitted to have her counsel participate; Her counsel should also be allowed to ask Kavanaugh questions. Bear in mind, we are talking about a victim of sexual assault being asked to go before a committee controlled by an all-male Republican majority whose current sole objective is to deconstruct the traumatic events experienced by a teenage girl. As Anita Hill so aptly explained in the Times: “The weight of the government should not be used to destroy the lives of witnesses who are called to testify.” https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/br...ning-ncna910851
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[b]Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. What exactly did she think was going to happen if you accuse Kavanaugh of a sex crime with ZERO evidence?
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[b]Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. What exactly did she think was going to happen if you accuse Kavanaugh of a sex crime with ZERO evidence? Credible and collaborative testimony will be all that is needed to disqualify Kavanaugh a seat on the SC.
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Correct.
But, what evidence is there? The last I heard, the lady can't remember where it even supposedly happened. (if that's changed, my apologies) Plus, it was some 37 years ago. And it wasn't rape. (unless that has now changed). I'm not sure if she remembers the actual address but she has described the house. You do realize that sexual assault and attempted rape are crimes too, right? But you are right that if no investigation is done, it's simply a he said she said. Maybe that's why there's no investigation being done? I mean you would actually need an investigation in order to find any evidence or lack there of, right? You do realize she passed a lie detector test, right? Depending on who you ask they are somewhere between 70% and 90% accurate. I believe that alone should lead to some sort of investigation. I'm just curious: what would the charges be? I addressed that above. That's if it isn't past the statute of limitations already. But for a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS I think it may be nice to know. How would this even possibly be relevant? I mean, Clinton got elected twice after NUMEROUS accusations. Trump got elected..........(at least he paid for it, right?  ). The fact that the American people don't seem to care about morals or ethics anymore is sad. That doesn't mean that it isn't relevant. Maybe at least a few senators still do care. I'm certainly not trying to claim the man is guilty. I just see the humor in those who so desperately wanting him confirmed can't seem to put the breaks on long enough to look into this a little deeper.
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[b]Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. What exactly did she think was going to happen if you accuse Kavanaugh of a sex crime with ZERO evidence? Credible and collaborative testimony will be all that is needed to disqualify Kavanaugh a seat on the SC. So she is testifying on Monday then?
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[b]Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. What exactly did she think was going to happen if you accuse Kavanaugh of a sex crime with ZERO evidence? Credible and collaborative testimony will be all that is needed to disqualify Kavanaugh a seat on the SC. So she is testifying on Monday then? She doesn’t have to on Monday. You do know she’s already getting death threats from the deplorables. Maybe later during a commity investigation she would.
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Dem Sen. Hirono lashes out at 'men in this country' urging them to 'shut up and step up' amid Kavanaugh claims http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...ugh-claims.htmlDemocratic Sen. Mazie Hirono blasted “the men in this country,” blaming them for sexual assault and urged them to “just shut up and step up” amid allegations of misconduct against President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Judge Brett Kavanaugh. At a press conference Tuesday evening, the Hawaii Democrat made the sweeping generalization against “the men” in the U.S. for “perpetuating” sexual assault. “I expect the men in this country and the men on this committee, because we all signed onto this letter, to demand an FBI investigation,” Hirono said, referring to a request that the FBI investigate the claims made by Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford. “But really, guess who is perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It’s the men in this country. And I just want to say to the men in this country: just shut up and step up, do the right thing for a change,” Hirono said.“Not only do women, like Dr. Ford, who bravely comes forward, need to be heard, but they need to be believed,” Hirono added. “We cannot continue the victimization and the smearing of someone like Dr. Ford.” Ford’s identity was revealed in a Washington Post article published over the weekend, following an anonymous letter obtained by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., alleging sexual assault. The California-based professor said that Kavanaugh, 36 years ago while in high school, pinned her down, tried to remove her bathing suit and put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream. Ford alleged that she was in the room with Kavanaugh and another man, who has been identified as Mark Judge. Both Kavanaugh and Judge denied the allegations. “This is a completely false allegation. I have never done anything like what the accuser describes—to her or to anyone,” Kavanaugh said in a statement Monday. “Because this never happened, I had no idea who was making the accusation until she identified herself [Sunday.]” The Senate Judiciary Committee invited both Ford and Kavanaugh to testify in either a public or private setting over the allegations. Kavanaugh said he was “willing” to speak to the committee “in any way” deemed appropriate to “refute this false allegation” and to defend his “integrity.” Ford’s attorney Monday suggested she would be willing to testify before the committee under oath, but has yet to officially accept the invitation to appear before the panel. Ford has said she doesn’t want to appear until after an FBI investigation takes place. A highly-placed law enforcement source told Fox News on Wednesday that there will not be an FBI investigation into the allegations leveled at Kavanaugh. The source told Fox News there cannot be a criminal investigation, because there is no crime alleged where the statute of limitations hasn't run. The source also said there are no allegations of a federal crime. The FBI only handles background check investigations, the source said, and should they find information, they would pass it along. "This is a political issue, not a law enforcement one," the source told Fox News. The committee has already delayed Kavanaugh's confirmation vote, which was originally scheduled for Thursday. A hearing is now scheduled for Monday. Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said that the hearing to examine the allegations set for Monday could be canceled if Ford does not accept the committee's invitation. Grassley said that his office has reached out several times to Ford and her attorneys to discuss her allegations, but has not received a response. Lets stop the victimization of Dr Ford and make Kavanaugh the victim of unfounded alleged sexual assault accusations with inconsistent stories and gaps from 40 years ago. "Believe women, not men" - Vote Democrat 2020
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[b]Brett Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford won't be joining him in front of Senate Republicans. What exactly did she think was going to happen if you accuse Kavanaugh of a sex crime with ZERO evidence? Credible and collaborative testimony will be all that is needed to disqualify Kavanaugh a seat on the SC. So she is testifying on Monday then? She doesn’t have to on Monday. You do know she’s already getting death threats from the deplorables. Maybe later during a commity investigation she would. The hearing is set for Monday.
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Lets stop the victimization of Dr Ford and make Kavanaugh the victim of unfounded alleged sexual assault accusations with inconsistent stories and gaps from 40 years ago.
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Well that makes things easier, just accuse and someone is guilty. There are no need for Judges and Lawyers anymore.
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Come on pit - you're more intelligent than this. I know, you know, and any person that can string a sentence together that follows politics in ANY manner knows: This is a smear campaign in an attempt to delay the vote until after mid terms.
It's been 37 years. He was supposedly 17. There was no rape.
Feinstein sat on it for 2 months. Only when it was clear to her Kav. would be appointed did she bring it up. And, it was an "anonymous" claim. The lady did come out, though, after it was obvious "anonymous" wasn't going to be enough to derail the appointment.
The lady agreed to testify on Monday - until she said she wouldn't testify until an investigation occurred. Delay tactic. Stretch it out until after the november elections in hopes the the dems take control.
Then, she demands the FBI investigate. And the FBI says "Why? No crime was committed. And we don't investigate 17 year olds about a party from 37 years ago." (if said party ever happened).
The county police have stated they won't investigate because no complaint was, or has been filed. We can't investigate something that never happened and/or was never filed.
Sorry man, you're smarter than this. You know full well what this is: A smear campaign in the hopes of delaying the vote. Period.
And then you come up with "the American people don't seem to care about morals or ethics anymore....."?
Really? REALLY? Why don't you check out Bill Clinton. Thanks in advance.
And you nailed it with your last statement: "....can't seem to put the brakes on long enough to....." wait until after the mid term elections. Got it.
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How in the hell can you be so sure of what did or did not happen 37 years ago in a situation you knew nothing about until the last few weeks? This is the problem on the right, they don't want anything to get in the way of this appointment and will throw caution to the wind. PERIOD.
By all accounts this woman wanted to remain anonymous and only came out when reporters started sniffing around. She also did so to lend credibility to the claim she made. She talked to her therapist about this 6 YEARS AGO! Was she plotting against Trump or Kavanaugh then? She also passed a lie detector test, I haven't seen Kavanaugh say he would take one, have you? And women who knew her then and now have come out in support of her to vouch for her credibility!
The reason the GOP wants to have a quickie hearing with no investigation, witnesses, or further corroboration is because they are scared other facts might come out! Talk about politically driven BS!
This guy is going to be on the SCOTUS for LIFE! I think we can take time to get it right. Apparently you and the Trumpians can't see that as reasonable.
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How in the hell can you be so sure of what did or did not happen 37 years ago in a situation you knew nothing about until the last few weeks? This is the problem on the right, they don't want anything to get in the way of this appointment and will throw caution to the wind. PERIOD.
By all accounts this woman wanted to remain anonymous and only came out when reporters started sniffing around. She also did so to lend credibility to the claim she made. She talked to her therapist about this 6 YEARS AGO! Was she plotting against Trump or Kavanaugh then? She also passed a lie detector test, I haven't seen Kavanaugh say he would take one, have you? And women who knew her then and now have come out in support of her to vouch for her credibility!
The reason the GOP wants to have a quickie hearing with no investigation, witnesses, or further corroboration is because they are scared other facts might come out! Talk about politically driven BS!
This guy is going to be on the SCOTUS for LIFE! I think we can take time to get it right. Apparently you and the Trumpians can't see that as reasonable. She had almost 40 years and the Dems had it for 2 months...
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You're a joke.
SHE isn't even sure it happened - 37 years ago.
Smear tactic and delay - just as I said. The dems are hoping for an investigation to delay the vote until after the mid terms.
Plain and simple.
The FBI has said "investigate what?" See, the FBI doesn't investigate h.schoolers over such things.
The local police have said "Investigate what? We never got a complaint to investigate."
Sorry dude, you know it but won't admit it. It's politics. "Oh, he's gonna be confirmed? We need to come up with something...............how about this?"
She waited 31 years to go to a therapist? I guess she wasn't all that distraught about it.
And actually, I ought to back off that statement.
Women that know her and knew her have supported her. Women that knew and know Kav support him.
This is without a doubt a 'she said' thing. Worried about other facts that may come out? Come on - there haven't been any facts come out yet!!!
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I just heard, think it was MSNBC, that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is claiming Abraham Lincoln grabbed her butt in 1862!
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I grabbed her Butt in 1762 ans she loved it.
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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Ya know, somehow I believe it. 
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You're a joke.
SHE isn't even sure it happened - 37 years ago.
Smear tactic and delay - just as I said. The dems are hoping for an investigation to delay the vote until after the mid terms.
Plain and simple.
The FBI has said "investigate what?" See, the FBI doesn't investigate h.schoolers over such things.
The local police have said "Investigate what? We never got a complaint to investigate."
Sorry dude, you know it but won't admit it. It's politics. "Oh, he's gonna be confirmed? We need to come up with something...............how about this?"
She waited 31 years to go to a therapist? I guess she wasn't all that distraught about it.
And actually, I ought to back off that statement.
Women that know her and knew her have supported her. Women that knew and know Kav support him.
This is without a doubt a 'she said' thing. Worried about other facts that may come out? Come on - there haven't been any facts come out yet!!! Then the investigation will hurt NOTHING.
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I know if I was Kavanaugh I would want my name cleared first. I wouldn't want to be thought of as the rapist supreme court justice.
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You're a joke.
SHE isn't even sure it happened - 37 years ago.
Smear tactic and delay - just as I said. The dems are hoping for an investigation to delay the vote until after the mid terms.
Plain and simple.
The FBI has said "investigate what?" See, the FBI doesn't investigate h.schoolers over such things.
The local police have said "Investigate what? We never got a complaint to investigate."
Sorry dude, you know it but won't admit it. It's politics. "Oh, he's gonna be confirmed? We need to come up with something...............how about this?"
She waited 31 years to go to a therapist? I guess she wasn't all that distraught about it.
And actually, I ought to back off that statement.
Women that know her and knew her have supported her. Women that knew and know Kav support him.
This is without a doubt a 'she said' thing. Worried about other facts that may come out? Come on - there haven't been any facts come out yet!!! Then the investigation will hurt NOTHING. This just goes to show that Democrats have no honor. 37 years ago a High School kid tried to get laid. Bet that never happened before. She said she doesn't remember exactly what happened. She won't say who paid for her lie detecter test, her lawyer is an old Clinton worker. The Dems don't have a problem with Keith Ellison. His accuser been speaking out at every Opportunity. She has ben threatened and hr address given out. I say again THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NO HONOR and will do any slimmy thing to get their way. Its funny this comes out now when the Dems had this info since June.
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The 'investigation' of nothing could take months/ years.
Well conceived plan by the dems.
Although, since there is nothing to investigate, as per the FBI and the local police............shut up and testify Monday.
It's really simple, actually. The lady had 37 years to file a complaint. She didn't.
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I know if I was Kavanaugh I would want my name cleared first. I wouldn't want to be thought of as the rapist supreme court justice. And, his name is already clear. And where the HELL do you get 'rapist' from? Not even this lady has said rape. YOU, sir, ARE msnbc. Ain't a damn person in the world talking about rape. Not even the lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The 'investigation' of nothing could take months/ years.
Well conceived plan by the dems.
Although, since there is nothing to investigate, as per the FBI and the local police............shut up and testify Monday.
It's really simple, actually. The lady had 37 years to file a complaint. She didn't. Wrong. Monday is a false deadline for the GOP to shove Kavanaugh in, that's all. They could easily do some due diligence on this in 30 days. But they're scared their boy won't cut it. So let's make a deadline. BS BS BS.
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I know if I was Kavanaugh I would want my name cleared first. I wouldn't want to be thought of as the rapist supreme court justice. And, his name is already clear. And where the HELL do you get 'rapist' from? Not even this lady has said rape. YOU, sir, ARE msnbc. Ain't a damn person in the world talking about rape. Not even the lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Attempted rape if convicted makes you a rapist. This will be the black cloud he wears forever if they don't clear his name. Accused rapist! Then if he were to assist in overturning Roe vs. Wade; well an accused rapist will have done that.
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Actually, Monday was the day they - he and she - were to testify.
How's it feel to be on the hook?
You're smarter than this. they gave the lady the opportunity to testify, and she's refusing. The FBI said there's nothing to investigate. The local police said there's nothing to investigate.
Stall tactics.
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"Raping Kavanaugh" could be his trumpian nickname, something most of you would be proud of no doubt.
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Actually, Monday was the day they - he and she - were to testify.
How's it feel to be on the hook?
You're smarter than this. they gave the lady the opportunity to testify, and she's refusing. The FBI said there's nothing to investigate. The local police said there's nothing to investigate.
Stall tactics. Next Monday Arch... She might still show up to that crap show and if she does she should make it public. It would be a good time for about a million women to march on capitol hill.
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You don't get to dis anybodies' honor! You voted for Trump! Lowest of the low. When he's gone and things return to normal, I hope you all have to wear a big ass T for your scarlet letters.
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Kavanaugh classmate has no recollection of party where alleged sexual assault occurred http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...t-occurred.htmlAnother former classmate of Judge Brett Kavanaugh has denied having any knowledge of a high school party where the future Supreme Court nominee allegedly sexually assaulted Christine Blasey Ford. In a letter penned by his attorney, Eric Bruce, and sent to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., Patrick Smyth said that he has no knowledge of the party in question nor any knowledge of “the allegations of improper conduct” that Ford has levelled against Kavanaugh. "I understand that I have been identified by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford as the person she remembers as 'PJ' who supposedly was present at the party she described in her statements to the Washington Post," Smyth, who graduated the same year as Kavanaugh from Georgetown Prep in North Bethesda, Maryland, said in the letter that was obtained by CNN. "I am issuing this statement today to make it clear to all involved that I have no knowledge of the party in question; nor do I have any knowledge of the allegations of improper conduct she has leveled against Brett Kavanaugh." Smyth is quoted in the letter saying: "Personally speaking, I have known Brett Kavanaugh since high school and I know him to be a person of great integrity, a great friend, and I have never witnessed any improper conduct by Brett Kavanaugh towards women.” Complete story on webpage
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