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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You're just making BS excuses not to interview her class mates and look into this further.

You do understand that polygraph tests are fairly accurate, right?


No they are not, why can't they be used in court then?


Which classmates?

The one she said was there said it didn't happen in a letter under oath...has she given a statement under oath?

Has any other classmate come forward?

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Actually the president has the right to ask the FBI to investigate this. It happened in the Clarence Thomas nomination process. Of course when someone has 16 accusers and is a self proclaimed puZZY grabber, that's never going to happen. lmao


Might want to edit your post.


Nope! If it's good enough for the president, it's good enough for me! At least I didn't vote for either of the fools that ran nor make excuses for their behavior.


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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Answer them and then they can start the investigation!



Answering those questions is the investigation.
That's what the FBI does. Start to finish.


That's not the FBI's job! It's the local police. notallthere

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No they are not, why can't they be used in court then?


Let me tell you what they are used for. They are used to decide whether a suspect should be investigated.


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All that can quickly be found to see if they have any recollection of the party or events pertaining to such a possible incident.

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The one she said was there said it didn't happen in a letter under oath...has she given a statement under oath?

Has any other classmate come forward?


For someone being given a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS you sure don't seem to care what really happened one way or the other do you?


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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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Answer them and then they can start the investigation!



Answering those questions is the investigation.
That's what the FBI does. Start to finish.



Investigate.


FBI to Dr. Ford: What happened?
Dr. Ford: We went into a bedroom. He shut the door. He had his friend stand by the door as a look out. He put his hand over my mouth, and turned up the music.
FBI: When did this happen?
Dr. Ford: Not certain. I know the year.
FBI: Where did this happen?
Dr. Ford: I don't know.

FBI: What else happened?
Dr. Ford: Nothing.


FBI to Kav: Did you do that?
Kav: No. I don't know what she's talking about.

FBI to the friend: Did this happen?

Friend: No. I don't know what she's talking about.











Amazes me people want this investigated. If it will only take a week or so, do it. But we all know how it works............



And yet, no one on THAT side cared about hillary bleaching her illegal server to rid it of e-mails. No proof? No crime.

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You must not even read the replies or know your history. The FBI investigated the Anita Hill accusations during the nomination process of Clarence Thomas.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Why so obtuse arch? What would the harm be in interviewing class mates to see if there may be some validity to any of this?

ie.... Was there such a party? Did any people see Kavenaugh follow her upstairs?

There's nothing wrong with looking into it. Nothing.


Other than her the people she named said no party happened.

What house are they to look and ask people if they were there?

What year month are they supposed to ask people about?

Where are they supposed to start?

She has to testify under oath her version of what happened before they can do anything.

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
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Answer them and then they can start the investigation!



Answering those questions is the investigation.
That's what the FBI does. Start to finish.

Sometimes Vambo isn't worth talking to, actually, most of the time, but I wanted to be nice.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

Amazes me people want this investigated. If it will only take a week or so, do it. But we all know how it works............


I explained this to you yesterday. I even bolded it for you. So let me try again.

The FBI investigated the Anita Hill accusations against Clarence Thomas. It took three days.......Three days.

So yes, we already have a pretty good idea how this works.

I'm not so sure what's so hard to understand here. It would be highly unlikely any of this would stop the Kavenaugh appointment.

It would just give the impression that the GOP gives a damn about women. It would actually only work to help the GOP, not hurt them.

Yet it seems many promote they shoot themselves in the foot.


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Yes you just keep promoting that the GOP look like a party that doesn't take women seriously when they claim they've been abused. I'm sure that will work out so well for you.


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No they are not, why can't they be used in court then?


Let me tell you what they are used for. They are used to decide whether a suspect should be investigated.

Have her testify under oath then, if she passed that she should have no issues testifying


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Which classmates?


All that can quickly be found to see if they have any recollection of the party or events pertaining to such a possible incident.


What year should they look? How do you know others were there she can't remember?


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The one she said was there said it didn't happen in a letter under oath...has she given a statement under oath?

Has any other classmate come forward?


For someone being given a lifetime appointment to the SCOTUS you sure don't seem to care what really happened one way or the other do you?


No crime has been reported under oath...how can you investigate no crime?

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Yes you just keep promoting that the GOP look like a party that doesn't take women seriously when they claim they've been abused. I'm sure that will work out so well for you.



I'll take her seriously when she testifies under oath.

Even fills out a police report.

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Answer them and then they can start the investigation!



Answering those questions is the investigation.
That's what the FBI does. Start to finish.

Sometimes Vambo isn't worth talking to, actually, most of the time, but I wanted to be nice.


rofl You are wrong so you personal attack just like PDF !

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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.

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Senate Republicans make counteroffer to Kavanaugh accuser for Wednesday hearing

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...ay-hearing.html

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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl

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i have a question.

are punishments only weighed by courts?

like....since Casey anthony was found not guilty, you guys would be cool dropping your kids off at her daycare center if she ran one?

would you be ok with george zimmerman being your neighborhood security guard?

would you trust OJ in your all white bronco?

i mean most of you guys who arguing essentially against the accuser, had effectively branded and punished clinton for a crime, despite the fact that she didnt get charged with any crime to begin with. but you decided the lack of charges didn't matter, and voted for trump partly because you believed her to be a criminal.

but yet when it comes to sexual assault against women that is so prevalent in the country, all of a sudden the courts matter.

its people like yall for why losers like the stanford swimmer get off for raping women. yall are willing to overlook anything to justify misogamy.

but just like a bunch of men who think they're superior to any and everything, you do more victim blaming than asking about Kavanaugh himself.

yall did the same nonsense with Cosby.

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i have a question.

are punishments only weighed by courts?

like....since Casey anthony was found not guilty, you guys would be cool dropping your kids off at her daycare center if she ran one?

would you be ok with george zimmerman being your neighborhood security guard?

would you trust OJ in your all white bronco?

i mean most of you guys who arguing essentially against the accuser, had effectively branded and punished clinton for a crime, despite the fact that she didnt get charged with any crime to begin with. but you decided the lack of charges didn't matter, and voted for trump partly because you believed her to be a criminal.

but yet when it comes to sexual assault against women that is so prevalent in the country, all of a sudden the courts matter.

its people like yall for why losers like the stanford swimmer get off for raping women. yall are willing to overlook anything to justify misogamy.

but just like a bunch of men who think they're superior to any and everything, you do more victim blaming than asking about Kavanaugh himself.

yall did the same nonsense with Cosby.


No we are arguing no crime has been reported to the police and no testimony given under oath.

How can you investigate a crime that hasn't been reported?

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I don't know exactly who you are talking to here, but let me assure you: I take sexual assault very seriously, as I do rape, or attempted rape.



Very seriously.



However, in this case - this POLITICAL situation - I find it difficult to accept.

37 years.
No rape. No attempted rape.
No witnesses.


A lady that sat on this for decades and only decides to come out with it now? For what?

If an assault is provable - have at it. In this case, it isn't.


Give the FBI a week to investigate.

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Pre-arrest Investigation: Pre-arrest investigation is the stage of criminal procedure that takes place after a report of suspected criminal activity or law enforcement otherwise becomes aware of such activity, but before an arrest is made. Law enforcement investigates whether a crime has occurred and whether an arrest should be made. If law enforcement determines that the evidence uncovered during pre-arrest investigation reveals that a crime was committed and a suspect is identified, law enforcement may arrest the suspect or, depending upon the jurisdiction, present the investigation results to the prosecuting attorney. If the jurisdiction is one in which the prosecuting attorney becomes involved pre-arrest, the prosecuting attorney generally decides whether and what charges to file; only after such determination does an arrest take place. Alternatively, after an investigation, law enforcement may determine that there is insufficient evidence to pursue the matter, and no arrest is made.

https://law.lclark.edu/live/news/5498-what-are-some-common-steps-of-a-criminal

also, Anita Hill's accusations were investigated by the Feds, despite the fact that she didn't report it to the police.

so we already have evidence that goes against what you're saying. i dont understand the disconnect here.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
I don't know exactly who you are talking to here, but let me assure you: I take sexual assault very seriously, as I do rape, or attempted rape.



Very seriously.



However, in this case - this POLITICAL situation - I find it difficult to accept.

37 years.
No rape. No attempted rape.
No witnesses.


A lady that sat on this for decades and only decides to come out with it now? For what?

If an assault is provable - have at it. In this case, it isn't.


Give the FBI a week to investigate.


yea, look how long it took the women Cosby drugged to finally come out. sexual assault is the most underreported crime in america.

and yet instead of asking WHY that is, you're just going on about politics and such.

i mean damn bro, you're one step away from going "well, what was she wearing?"


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No, I'm not 1 step away from that.

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yea, you are.


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yea, you are.


Wrong.

What did she ask for? What happened? Let's go ahead and investigate. Give them 3 days.

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she asked for a fed investigation to start before she testifies, correct?

whats so unreasonable about that?

^^^ and if you dont have a problem with that, then i wonder why you felt the need to respond to a comment that had nothing to do with you.


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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.

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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Pre-arrest Investigation: Pre-arrest investigation is the stage of criminal procedure that takes place after a report of suspected criminal activity or law enforcement otherwise becomes aware of such activity, but before an arrest is made. Law enforcement investigates whether a crime has occurred and whether an arrest should be made. If law enforcement determines that the evidence uncovered during pre-arrest investigation reveals that a crime was committed and a suspect is identified, law enforcement may arrest the suspect or, depending upon the jurisdiction, present the investigation results to the prosecuting attorney. If the jurisdiction is one in which the prosecuting attorney becomes involved pre-arrest, the prosecuting attorney generally decides whether and what charges to file; only after such determination does an arrest take place. Alternatively, after an investigation, law enforcement may determine that there is insufficient evidence to pursue the matter, and no arrest is made.

https://law.lclark.edu/live/news/5498-what-are-some-common-steps-of-a-criminal

also, Anita Hill's accusations were investigated by the Feds, despite the fact that she didn't report it to the police.

so we already have evidence that goes against what you're saying. i dont understand the disconnect here.


Where is the police report? Testimony under oath?

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Her letter in full has not even been given to Republicans yet.

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Looks like you guys are talking, debating, and getting along so well! Vers you seeing this? lmao

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i just find it odd how people have no problem with the boys coming out decades later about the sexual assault with priest, but the ladies come out about politicians decades later, and all of a sudden its a problem.


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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl


That's because my comment was an observation on you and not on the thread...

Keep up, Vambo.

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Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl


That's because my comment was an observation on you and not on the thread...

Keep up, Vambo.


My simple advise for you...

1- Stop with the personal attacks on Vambo.
2- Try talking out of the other end for a while.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl


That's because my comment was an observation on you and not on the thread...

Keep up, Vambo.


My simple advise for you...

1- Stop with the personal attacks on Vambo.
2- Try talking out of the other end for a while.


When Cons lose an argument they resort to personal attacks. How rude. No wonder so many people flee their states.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Vambo, the most concerning thing about you, is that you talk like we live in 1984. Your ability to double think beats the ever living crap out of you just trying to think.


rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl


That's because my comment was an observation on you and not on the thread...

Keep up, Vambo.


rofl So it was a personal attack! rofl

tsktsk No facts on the thread though. tsktsk

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i just find it odd how people have no problem with the boys coming out decades later about the sexual assault with priest, but the ladies come out about politicians decades later, and all of a sudden its a problem.


Police report? Evidence? Unredacted letter from her? Testimony under oath?

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Kavanaugh doesn't want an investigation, hasn't taken a polygraph test, and wants no witnesses called.

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rofl There you go can't refute facts so personal attack! rofl



They're not personal attacks, they're observations. I'm not trying to attack you at all.


rofl Still no facts about the thread just BS nonsense, rofl


That's because my comment was an observation on you and not on the thread...

Keep up, Vambo.


My simple advise for you...

1- Stop with the personal attacks on Vambo.
2- Try talking out of the other end for a while.


When Cons lose an argument they resort to personal attacks. How rude. No wonder so many people flee their states.


rofl Now personal attacks on 40! rofl

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rofl So it was a personal attack! rofl

tsktsk No facts on the thread though. tsktsk


No, because I'm not attacking you. hell,I wasn't even speaking to you...

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Kavanaugh doesn't want an investigation, hasn't taken a polygraph test, and wants no witnesses called.


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