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I'm a football guy and I'm with you on this 100%. Let's keep it football.

Cool.

I want to add that I really like what I see in Baker. I've been praising him. I didn't like him before the draft, but he did well in preseason and had a GREAT first game.

Love his leadership, confidence, arm strength, accuracy, and more.

I'm not trying to be over the top and say Mayfield is alright Tom Brady. In fact, I don't want him to be Tom Brady because I think Baker Mayfield could be something special. He's by no means a seasoned vet... and we just watched Brady struggle vs the Jags, so Mayfield will have those days, but I think we're on to something very very special. It's exciting! (For once)

For me, it's more a "we've seen this movie before" type situation. It's actually nothing against Baker at all (I know this doesn't make sense). How many times have we, for one reason or another, been forced to play our shiny new QB before we intended? Too many times, and the result has always been the same. Call it stupid, call it battered fan syndrome... whatever. I'm trying not to play the role of wet blanket, but I haven't been able to shake this feeling.

I understand that line of thinking. I really do. But I haven't seen the actual skill set from any of our other QB's that I see in Mayfield.

That's certainly no guarantee of course. But for a QB to be successful he must first have a skill set to build on. He must have ingredients that have the possibility of making a good recipe. Mayfield has these.

I'm a relative baby on this board having only 10 years since registering. There are guys on here who go back to its inception. But it's clear there are a lot of old wounds that still creep into post from time to time. Old wounds and egos, that is a dangerous combination...lol

Vers, this Thriller dude still has poop in his pants, give him a pass. We should all try, starting with me, to resist posting when our emotions are raw. Sometimes its just best to let things roll off your back. Yours or my best post somedays are the ones we don't submit. Each of us has to decide where that line is for ourselves.

I get irritated with things people say on here every day but I try to keep it in perspective. The board is like life. It takes all kinds.

Even on the breakdown video, they are being too soft on Tyrod. They talk about one WR when two were WIDE OPEN on the play he took a sack. These two guys are WIDE OPEN in the NFL and he took a sack.

Can't win like that. I'm sorry.








There were some throws that weren't AS accurate from Mayfield as I was used to seeing on his college tape. I am hoping that was jsut adrenaline and that over time he will get back to where he was.

It's not even that I think Taylor should go back out there...

It's really hard to explain... and that's probably because it makes no sense. I just have this sense of dread because I'm hoping Mayfield is different than all the rest of the guys that came before him. At the very least, I was hoping the o-line would be a little more gelled before he started.

(Not replying to a specific post)

Device, I didn't think well of BM going into the draft, not because of what he did on the field, which I admitted was impressive, but for his antics off the field; the gestures, the arrest, and mostly for throwing at the head of an unsuspecting opponent. I did not want that guy as the face of my team. You maintained that was more a function of immaturity than flawed character, but I was unconvinced. The "too short" and "spread offense" arguments never carried weight with me, I've seen enough evidence that those aren't accurate indicators of success/failure in the NFL.

What I have seen in TC, as the back-up, and in his first game have me almost sold. I still want to see it sustained over the course of the season. But his demeanor has been impeccable. His post game interview with Joe was equally impressive as his play on the field. I believe he is aware how those antics were perceived and is making a conscious and concerted effort to not be that guy. If that is the case, then I rescind my objection to his character. He's maturing.

Best post you've ever made. Kudos.

It's just ALL ABOUT CONVERSATION DAWGS!!!!!

It's not hard at all, Dawg.

I get it. We've been SLAMMED for so Damn long.

Come to the Isle. FREE RIDE for you on the Ferry.

FREE DRINKS!!!!

Unfortunately, I'm a bit of a beer snob. Miller and Labbatt won't do it for me... :-p

Of course. Over time, the game will slow down for him. He'll do less thinking and more playing/reacting, where his natural skill set will be able to take over more.

Go screw yourself........ oobernooberpooperscooper!~

Baker will show you malcontents what the QB position is all about!

Thanks for sharing the video. Came away even more impressed.

great video. I love breakdowns like that

That is not even close to the entire list. We have quite the selection. But tell us what you want and we’ll have it for when get here.

#braindump

I was in the hospital with my kid on Thursday night and got to experience this game with him, a bunch of nurses and assistants. It was something I think the both of us will always remember. Rooster Wings, the first Browns win in 3 Star Wars movies and Children's Hospital.

After one game, hard to really know what's to come, but I liked the Mayfield pick since we made it and the more I read the more I liked. Then having him come in and witness his poise in the pocket, his quick release and his strong arm...I think it's hard right now to not feel optimistic.

I do feel like we judge our QBs a bit too harshly. Watching a bunch of other games on Sunday, not a single QB throws a perfect pass every single time, throws ahead of the receiver every single time, doesnt stare down a receiver ever.

Mayfield has some work to do, dude has played less than 4 quarters of football. The way the team responded to him on both sides of the ball and leading a come from behind victory during a nationally televised game (where we usually crumble), was freaking awesome.

Don't know whats to come...but for the first time in a long time, it didn't feel terrible to be a Browns fan.

Why is your child in the Children's Hospital? You don't have to answer if you don't want. I'm just concerned.

Thank you for your concern, sent a PM.

There is talk they may trade Tyrod but Hue Jackson says that is not the case and needs someone to groom Mayfield.
But you never know as let the Mayfield era begin!

I think it would be dumb to trade Taylor at this point in time. Not because I want him to start again, but what if Baker gets hurt? Besides, Tyrod is a hard worker and a team guy. He should be a good mentor for Baker.

Hope everything is good with your child.

NRTU...

I think I forgot to mention something.

One thing that was a point of discussion was the subject of Mayfield's arm strength... acceptable but not elite.

The fastball that Landry dropped began to answer that for me. It is highly unusual for Landry, and that type of thing only happens when the ball gets to him faster than expected. Landry was not running before he caught the ball, the ball got there more quickly than he expected.

That and the casual discussion about rotation, which is good makes me think that arm strength may not be an issue.

Modern Times? Alesmith? Ballast Point?

I tend to agree at this point. However there may be a point in the season where it makes some sense. I guess it just depends on who is sniffing around and what they might give.

One other factor to consider. Maybe TT is at a point in his career where being a back-up is something he would consider. Some QBs are able to get over being a starter. If we could sign him to an extension at a back-up rate, I would do that.

Dumb or not, if someone offers a 3rd rd pick right now, I take it...

However based on his first 3 games, I don't think anyone would make that offer.

Honestly, to me is makes no sense.

We traded for TT form him to sit behind Mayfield and he actually delivered..

I liked his 3 first games,saw no problem with him. He gave us a chance to win two games, and against the Jets had no chances. It was more an OL problem than a QB problem IMHO.

But that's just me

From what I've read up to now, that is an accurate statement.

Agree - that's just you.

Tyrod is looking at his last chance to get paid next season. I'm all but sure he would rather be traded than sit on the bench with a crap three game resume from this year.

If we get through the next 3-4 weeks and are pretty sure Baker is "the one", I can see a trade going down... somebody will be hurting at QB.

In all realistic fashion - what possibly could/would a QB-needy team give us for Tyrod?

6th rounder?

I'm not suggesting we trade Tyrod, but if he was traded, I bet it would be a few weeks down the road for many reasons, but one of those reasons being a good chuck of his albatross of a contract would be paid off a few weeks down the road then just after three games. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if we had to eat an additional chunk as well.

Tyrod is getting $1M per game.

Unless a team is offering a 1st rounder, no sense in trading Tyrod, we don't need more picks we need leadership for a young team.

A team trading for a vet QB in mid-season will be a desperate one trying to save a season. If they are not trying to save a season then no need to acquire a vet from someone else. Desperate teams will overpay.

I think a 3rd or 4th would be possible. Or possibly a combination of pick/player that would have a combined value in that range. I am not advocating trading Taylor, but there would be a price where I would have to consider it.

I wouldn't take less than a 5th. It would have to be a team that feels like they have a shot and still believes in upside with Tyrod. It's much better that he is out after sucking for 2.5 weeks than if he sucked for 8. If he sucked for 8 and then Baker made a huge splash, he may just be resigned to a back-up role. If someone loses a QB now thru week 12, make no mistake, they'll call... the rest is up to the Browns.

Unless someone blows us away with a trade (ie. 1st or 2nd - very doubtful), I would not entertain trading Tyrod. I think he is more valuable as a backup on this team for this year.

I tend to agree Hammer. I think we as fans... and the coaching staff, admire his tenacity and work ethic enough to set him free... if we were comfortable with Bake and the right offer came in.

This is his last crack at a real contract before he is relegated to backup. That won't happen sitting on our bench.

I HOPE TT re-signs with us ...