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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
How soon do we approve Kav and make him the new SC Justice?
Friday?


Disgusting.


What is disgusting is this Circus the Democrats have put on.

-They swear to stop any nominee.

-They disrupt the hearings with their shenanigans. Mr.Speaker, Mr.Speaker, Mr.Speaker, Spartacus would like to run for President in 2020!

-They arrange for their Liberal friends to disrupt the hearings with constant shouts and protests.

-They sit on what they consider important evidence against Kav for months, only to bring it out at the last minute.

-Then out of the woodwork come these accusers who remained silent while Kav was investigated 6 different times by the FBI over the years with no problems found.

America knows a Circus when they see one.
America knows a Con Job when they hear one.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
How soon do we approve Kav and make him the new SC Justice?
Friday?


Disgusting.
you literally dismissed the account of a daughter being molested by her dad for a seat....

glass house.

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I more than explained that so spin lies all you want.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
How soon do we approve Kav and make him the new SC Justice?
Friday?


Disgusting.


What is disgusting is this Circus the Democrats have put on.

-They swear to stop any nominee.

-They disrupt the hearings with their shenanigans. Mr.Speaker, Mr.Speaker, Mr.Speaker, Spartacus would like to run for President in 2020!

-They arrange for their Liberal friends to disrupt the hearings with constant shouts and protests.

-They sit on what they consider important evidence against Kav for months, only to bring it out at the last minute.

-Then out of the woodwork come these accusers who remained silent while Kav was investigated 6 different times by the FBI over the years with no problems found.

America knows a Circus when they see one.
America knows a Con Job when they hear one.


First the accusers seem real to me.

Second, it's almost as bad (not quite though) as Mitch McConnell wanting Obama to fail.





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I have no problem with wanting a presidents agenda to fail. . . but the far left wants the entire country and fabric of it to fail so that they can usher in their utopian dream of a socialistic paradise that they have conjured in their minds.

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I have no problem with wanting a presidents agenda to fail. . . but the far left wants the entire country and fabric of it to fail so that they can usher in their utopian dream of a socialistic paradise that they have conjured in their minds.


So let me get this straight. When you want a Dem. president to fail, it's only about his agenda. When Dems want a GOP president to fail, it's suddenly that they want the entire fabric of the entire country to fail?

Double standard much?


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I have no problem with wanting a presidents agenda to fail. . . but the far left wants the entire country and fabric of it to fail so that they can usher in their utopian dream of a socialistic paradise that they have conjured in their minds.


So let me get this straight. When you want a Dem. president to fail, it's only about his agenda. When Dems want a GOP president to fail, it's suddenly that they want the entire fabric of the entire country to fail?

Double standard much?
Not at all. I have no problem with you wanting Trumps agenda to fail. I have no problem with 40 wanting Obama's agenda to fail at the time. I do have a problem with people wanting the economy, our justice system, capitalism as a whole, and our fabric to fail. thumbsup

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And who is it that wants out Justice system to fail? It seems if you wish to point a finger in that direction it would be toward the person most likely quoted doing that very thing. You do understand that is Trump, right?

And who is it that wants our economy to fail? I mean the economy has been on a general upswing since 2009. If you're referring to the fact that trickle down economics has been proven to be a failure time and time again, I agree with you. But understanding that's a realistic expectation doesn't mean you wish for it to fail. Trade wars and trickle down economics just aren't smart.

Capitalism as a whole? You do realize that's more of a dog whistle than anything based in reality, right? Wanting all Americans to have healthcare doesn't mean you want capitalism to fail. Wanting the wages of people to at least keep up with costs isn't wanting capitalism to fail. Our economy was at it's strongest when unions were strong and you had a much higher percentage of the people having enough income to spend.

You do understand that when people have disposable income, that's exactly what helps feed capitalism, right?

And whose fabric do you fear people want to fail? I'm often amazed by this. What do you even mean by that? Do you think allowing same sex couples to marry somehow interferes with what you do or your rights? Is that the kind of fabric you speak of? Or do you mean wool and cotton?

Some people think giving rights to others somehow impedes their own.

No, w


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Hey, I didn't want Obama's policies to fail, I could see they were flawed policies and stood against them being implemented.

Now Trump has fixed them and we are off to the economic races! thumbsup

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More victim blaming. Not surprised.


It's that steady diet of FOX news.
Rots the brain.
And the soul.


Unless an illegal or a minority do the crime. Then they'll White Knight for any victim.


Funny how all these women turn out to defend Kav yet you ignore them because only women who push the Liberal Cause should be heard. tsktsk






“I have a difficult time believing any person would continue to go to – according to the affidavit – ten parties over a two-year period where women were routinely gang raped and not report it,” Graham tweeted.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-court-bid.html

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Who Is Julie Swetnick?




BOOM! I kind of dare the GOP to ignore this and confirm Kavanaugh on Friday now. No matter how you feel about Avenatti, he hits hard.

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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More victim blaming. Not surprised.


It's that steady diet of FOX news.
Rots the brain.
And the soul.


Unless an illegal or a minority do the crime. Then they'll White Knight for any victim.


Funny how all these women turn out to defend Kav yet you ignore them because only women who push the Liberal Cause should be heard. tsktsk






“I have a difficult time believing any person would continue to go to – according to the affidavit – ten parties over a two-year period where women were routinely gang raped and not report it,” Graham tweeted.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-court-bid.html


Not hard to believe in a world where 1 and 6 women are sexually assaulted.

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so i guess to the conservatives, all 3 of these women are lying.


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a cnn reporter just absolutely shredded Trump during his very rare press conference.

i'm paraphrasing here, but he asked "mr president, you always seem to side with the accused, and not the accuser. You look at your support for Kavanaugh, your support for Roy Moore, and your support for one of your staffers, does this have to do with your own past of being accuses of sexual assault?"

lmfao holy crap. what a question. what a GREAT question.

and trump's response? "well, Roy Moore was a republican, and i rather have had a republican in there".

wow. wow.

wow wow wow wow wow.


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so i guess to the conservatives, all 3 of these women are lying.


You would be better to see that to conservatives all 3 of these women could be part of the Circus.

Kav has a long history of being above board.

We await the testimony of the women to see if they are believable or part of the circus.

I suspect circus.

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Kavanaugh's attorney dodging like Giuliani, lol. Trying to shift outrage to Avenatti for not going to police.


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“I have a difficult time believing any person would continue to go to – according to the affidavit – ten parties over a two-year period where women were routinely gang raped and not report it,” Graham tweeted.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-court-bid.html


Spoken like a man, Lindsey. This is no different than him saying it's difficult to believe that Rachel Denhollander was assaulted by Larry Nassar because it took her 16 years to come forward. He's a total joke.

Women know if they report abuse, she will be the one put on trial first, not the man.


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Trump explains it all... rolleyes



He lives in an alternate universe.

But Fox News blows the story wide open with it's high quality investigative boogeyman reporting:


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Not to mention that they're literally asked to relive their trauma during the investigation and a trial.

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so i guess to the conservatives, all 3 of these women are lying.


Yeeeeep.


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Yeah, and thats why even in serial abuser cases it can take years. Weinstein took years for the first public charge. Nassar. Cosby. But once one victim came forward, others followed very quickly. They knew they weren't alone and felt compelled to speak truth to power and against a culture that treats victims as the problem.

Brett Kavanaugh is dealing with it now too. He just had a 4th accusation levied thirty minutes ago. I wonder why Brett's Arc so far is similar to Cosby and Weinstein and Nassars?



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Not to mention that they're literally asked to relive their trauma during the investigation and a trial.


Or keep their lies straight.

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The saddest part is that I don't really care about the dems either, I just want a checks and balance system that works in place for the orange fool in the White House.

I dislike many if not most of these dems.




I get that, but you should be against the pure smear campaign being waged here.


It's just wrong on EVERY level. It's just wrong. End of story.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
Kavanaugh's attorney dodging like Giuliani, lol. Trying to shift outrage to Avenatti for not going to police.




They should go to the police. If this was was a actual predator, why would a person allow someone like that do that to another person?

It's all BS, but just saying.

It's sad and shameful.


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Yeah, and thats why even in serial abuser cases it can take years. Weinstein took years for the first public charge. Nassar. Cosby. But once one victim came forward, others followed very quickly. They knew they weren't alone and felt compelled to speak truth to power and against a culture that treats victims as the problem.

Brett Kavanaugh is dealing with it now too. He just had a 4th accusation levied thirty minutes ago. I wonder why Brett's Arc so far is similar to Cosby and Weinstein and Nassars?






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The saddest part is that I don't really care about the dems either, I just want a checks and balance system that works in place for the orange fool in the White House.

I dislike many if not most of these dems.




I get that, but you should be against the pure smear campaign being waged here.


It's just wrong on EVERY level. It's just wrong. End of story.


I'm not sure it is a smear campaign! I don't blindly believe the accusers but I expect a thorough investigation before Kavanaugh is declared innocent or guilty.

What's funny is that I stated early on that he seemed qualified even if I didn't like his positions BUT there was something about him that I didn't like and I couldn't put my finger on... could be that he's fake. A guy that hides who he really is just well enough to make the hair on your neck stand when you listen to him. That's how Ted Cruz makes me feel. Felt the same about Dick Cheney (when I was a republican). Felt that way about Bill Clinton too.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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Not to mention that they're literally asked to relive their trauma during the investigation and a trial.


Or keep their lies straight.


Kavanaugh accuser Christine Ford releases results of polygraph test, but key detail appears to contradict past statements


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...statements.html


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Hanafin first allowed Ford and attorney Lisa Banks to meet alone to formulate a handwritten statement that Ford signed and provided Hanafin when he returned to the room. Then, without Banks present, Hanafin interviewed Ford about the day of the alleged assault, according to the report.

In the handwritten statement, Ford writes that "there were 4 boys and a couple of girls" at the party.

But in Ford's letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., in July, Ford gave a different tally, writing that the gathering "included me and 4 others."

The total number of people at the purported party, and their genders, has been a key area of focus for Senate Republicans investigating Ford's claims. Ford told The Washington Post last week that there were a total of "four boys at the party" where the alleged episode occured, and that two -- Kavanaugh and his friend Mark Judge -- had been in the room during her attack. (According to The Post, Ford told her therapist in 2012 that four boys were in the room with her during the alleged attack -- a disparity she has blamed on her therapist's recording of her statements).

All of the witnesses Ford has identified at the party, including Kavanaugh, Judge, and another classmate, Patrick Smyth, have denied knowledge of the alleged assault under penalty of felony in statements to the Judiciary Committee.

However, a woman, Leland Ingham Keyser, a former classmate of Ford's at the Holton-Arms all-girls school in Maryland, has since been identified by Ford as the fourth witness at the party. In a dramatic twist, Keyser emerged Saturday night to say she doesn’t know Kavanaugh or remember being at the party with him.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
The saddest part is that I don't really care about the dems either, I just want a checks and balance system that works in place for the orange fool in the White House.

I dislike many if not most of these dems.




I get that, but you should be against the pure smear campaign being waged here.


It's just wrong on EVERY level. It's just wrong. End of story.


I'm not sure it is a smear campaign! I don't blindly believe the accusers but I expect a thorough investigation before Kavanaugh is declared innocent or guilty.

What's funny is that I stated early on that he seemed qualified even if I didn't like his positions BUT there was something about him that I didn't like and I couldn't put my finger on... could be that he's fake. A guy that hides who he really is just well enough to make the hair on your neck stand when you listen to him. That's how Ted Cruz makes me feel. Felt the same about Dick Cheney (when I was a republican). Felt that way about Bill Clinton too.


They should file a police report so the people who investigate crimes can investigate it.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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The saddest part is that I don't really care about the dems either, I just want a checks and balance system that works in place for the orange fool in the White House.

I dislike many if not most of these dems.




I get that, but you should be against the pure smear campaign being waged here.


It's just wrong on EVERY level. It's just wrong. End of story.


I'm not sure it is a smear campaign! I don't blindly believe the accusers but I expect a thorough investigation before Kavanaugh is declared innocent or guilty.

What's funny is that I stated early on that he seemed qualified even if I didn't like his positions BUT there was something about him that I didn't like and I couldn't put my finger on... could be that he's fake. A guy that hides who he really is just well enough to make the hair on your neck stand when you listen to him. That's how Ted Cruz makes me feel. Felt the same about Dick Cheney (when I was a republican). Felt that way about Bill Clinton too.


They should file a police report so the people who investigate crimes can investigate it.



Avenati said tonight he might file for his accuser.
Also if looks like there may be 2 more going
Public. That would be 5

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Kavanaugh backed by 60 who attended Georgetown Prep, sister schools

A letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee from 60 men and women who attended Georgetown Prep or sister schools and knew Brett Kavanaugh has called the latest allegations against him “nonsense” and “reprehensible.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...er-schools.html

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
The saddest part is that I don't really care about the dems either, I just want a checks and balance system that works in place for the orange fool in the White House.

I dislike many if not most of these dems.




I get that, but you should be against the pure smear campaign being waged here.


It's just wrong on EVERY level. It's just wrong. End of story.


I'm not sure it is a smear campaign! I don't blindly believe the accusers but I expect a thorough investigation before Kavanaugh is declared innocent or guilty.

What's funny is that I stated early on that he seemed qualified even if I didn't like his positions BUT there was something about him that I didn't like and I couldn't put my finger on... could be that he's fake. A guy that hides who he really is just well enough to make the hair on your neck stand when you listen to him. That's how Ted Cruz makes me feel. Felt the same about Dick Cheney (when I was a republican). Felt that way about Bill Clinton too.


They should file a police report so the people who investigate crimes can investigate it.



Avenati said tonight he might file for his accuser.
Also if looks like there may be 2 more going
Public. That would be 5


Do they have any EVIDENCE?

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Avenatti's client previously represented by accuser Ford's attorney, report says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...ent-emerge.html


Late Wednesday, The Wall Street Journal reported that approximately 10 years ago, Swetnick retained the law firm of Katz, Marshall & Banks to represent her in dispute with her former employer, insurance company New York Life, over a sexual harassment complaint Swetnick had brought.

Deborah Katz, one of the firm's founding partners, is currently representing another Kavanaugh accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.

Meanwhile, Politico reported that a former boyfriend of Swetnick had sought a restraining order against her in 2001. In an interview with the publication, Richard Vinneccy said that Swetnick had threatened him after they broke up and he married his current wife.

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So? None of that has anything to do with what Kavanaugh did or didn't do. Unless your intentions are to smear the accuser.

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Originally Posted By: Vambo
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Avenati said tonight he might file for his accuser.
Also if looks like there may be 2 more going
Public. That would be 5


Do they have any EVIDENCE?


They have the same evidence Kavanaugh has, their word. AND apparently it's now 3-5 women so the he said/she said argument is getting weak.

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Well if they were to file then the expectation is they have evidence. I would say at least that if charges were to be filed, that he should withdraw so another nominee could be made. You don't want an up/down vote on someone under active investigation for the supreme Court ...

Yes yes, he could stay and fight but voting on someone under investigation is just too risky.

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Originally Posted By: northlima dawg

Avenati said tonight he might file for his accuser.
Also if looks like there may be 2 more going
Public. That would be 5


Do they have any EVIDENCE?


They have the same evidence Kavanaugh has, their word. AND apparently it's now 3-5 women so the he said/she said argument is getting weak.



Senate committee talks with 2 men who say Kavanaugh accuser may be mistaking judge for them

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/...-kavanaugh.html

Ahead of pivotal Senate hearing, witnesses surface to say Christine Ford may have mistaken them for Kavanaugh

On Wednesday, Republicans said, they received a "more in-depth written statement from the man interviewed twice previously who believes he, not Judge Kavanuagh, had the encounter in question with Dr. Ford." GOP investigators also spoke on the phone with another man making a similar claim.


He must be believed!

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So? None of that has anything to do with what Kavanaugh did or didn't do. Unless your intentions are to smear the accuser.




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What will be amusing is that when this is all over and K sues them for slander and libel.

Not even one shred of evidence. Witnesses all are recanting.

Why? Because they know they can't prove anything and if they go on the actually record they will be subject to felony charges.

All three accusers are die hard liberals willing to do anything to stop a republican nominee from being appointed. The first one has a grudge against his mother who is a judge who forclosed her property. The second admits she was too drunk and doesn't really remember anything. The third is a literal sociopath who has a laundry list of terrible things she has done. Not to mention being proven that she is lying about her testimony.

That versus hundreds of character witnesses from people who actually have known and worked with him who ALL say he would never do such things. Only braindead idiots would believe any of these lying scum who are slandering Kavanaugh.

I mean enough is enough. This level of lying and deceit to ruin a good man I thought was only possible in a work of fiction. It's just sickening if they get away with this nonsense.


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