I've never said my mind was made up. Not once. That's just your imagination running wild with you. I actually have no idea one way or the other.
You're the one proclaiming there is no proof. Don't let your ideaology get in the way of the facts.
I've always agreed with an investigation because the SCOTUS is a lifetime appointment. I've NEVER given any indication as to whether I had a clue of guilt or innocence.
Well, you're getting your way.
Just as I said a week or so ago, "there will be other accusers with no facts", I was right.
Just as I said "this is just a stall/delay tactic" by the dem's, I was correct.
When people were saying "let her testify", I said "great. Do it. And then she stalled and delayed, until she did testify.
And she brought nothing other than her memory, which was fuzzy at BEST.
So, now you, and the dems, have gotten their way. Cool. Nothing to see, though.
So, now we 'need an fbi investigation' that will only take "1 week or less"........right.
I ask again, WHAT is there to investigate? No proof, no dna, no date, no witnesses, no location......just "Well, since I'm saying so, it IS so."
On one hand, I can see why the fbi has said they have no reason to investigate a nothing burger that doesn't involve federal office from 37 years ago. But, I can also understand that the FBI could be requested to investigate since he's been nominated to a federal job. Uh, just like his previous job. So there's that.
But, just like I've been correct all along, I promise you, this won't take a week. It will take months..........and the dem's hope to win seats so as to be able to block anything.
Dog and pony show, and here we are arguing about it.
The testimony before the senate committee was a dog and pony show as well.
If there's nothing to investigate, why investigate? Okay, fine, investigate. TAke a week. To investigate..........what?
You still owe me that money that I remember you taking from me a long time ago.
I find it funny that the people on the committee judging morality where there is ZERO corroborating evidence include:
1. An admitted groper in college. 2. A person who had a staffer for 20 years that turned out to be providing political intelligence to the Chinese. 3. A guy that publically falsely claimed to have served in Vietnam, 4. A woman who at age 29 had an affair with the 60 year old mayor of San Fran who somehow won her election after being behind by 62,000 votes. She comes out ahead by 50,000 after provisional ballots were counted and opponent's votes suddenly "disappeared". All this after contacting her good friend who just happened to be acting Sec. of State.
I can't say that I'm on either side in this fiasco.
I feel bad for these women who, whether you believe them or not, are describing sexual assault, and having all the sordid details recounted for all the public to hear. Its just awful.
And this guy, being slammed for accusations of things that happened in the 1980's....almost 40 years ago....whether guilty or not, its awful...
Wow! The GOP is NOT all mindless Trumpian drones afterall.
Seriously though, this was the right thing to do. Both witnesses seemed credible enough yesterday that only more FACTS was going to resolve this. If he is innocent, this will help to lift the cloud on his appointment. If he is lying, this should sort that out too.
The additional accusers will be investigated too. So this should clear up anything out there.
This was a win for the country, not the dems or the gop, the country.
The truth is that Flake and the others with him just saved the GOP from 'mad-as-hell' women in November(s). They are still losing women, but this will go a long way to help that.
“In response to the Committee’s request for information, I, MARK JUDGE, declare: The allegations in the Swetnick affidavit are so bizarre that, even while suffering from my addiction, I would remember actions so outlandish. I categorically deny them,” Judge, a recovering alcoholic, said in the letter.
“I do not know Julie Swetnick,” he continued. “I do not recall attending parties during 1981-1983 when I fondled or grabbed women in an aggressive or unwanted manner.”
Judge went on to say that he has “never spiked punch to get anyone drunk or disoriented.”
“Nor have I witnessed Brett Kavanaugh spike punch,” Judge wrote. “I have never engaged in any gang rape of any woman, including Ms. Swetnick.”
Judge said he would “cooperate with any law enforcement agency that is assigned to confidentially investigate these allegations,” and signed the statement “under penalty of felony.”
You keep talking stall tactics when none of this delays anything until after the elections.
This is the best thing Republicans could possibly do to help promote an image that they care about women who are or may be victims of sexual misconduct and you guys keep kicking and screaming like someone is doing something bad to you.
It's funny as hell actually.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
We've heard all the denials. Now let's let the FBI gather the facts. We'll see what's what after.
They’ve investigated him six times. If they come up with something different, every agent who was involved in his previous investigations should be fired.
What does it say about a party that it begged the american people to give them full control, got full control, and are STILL blaming democrats for all of their problems?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Two GoFundMe pages to benefit Kavanaugh accuser Christine Blasey Ford amassed nearly $600,000 by late Thursday afternoon as she testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
One account started by “Team Christine Blasey Ford” had reached more than $370,000 by 4 p.m. Thursday, exceeding its goal of $150,000 for the stated purpose of defraying the family’s travel and security costs.
Another fund started Sept. 18 and since closed has raised nearly $210,000.
“We are going to use any additional contributions to cover travel costs as well as security,” organizers of one fund stated. “The initial contributions will only go to security.”
Ms. Blasey Ford, who said her family has relocated twice in recent weeks due to threats, said she expects the costs of a polygraph examination to be paid from the funds, as well as legal fees. One of her attorneys told the committee they are working pro bono.
She accused Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her at a party in high school in 1982, an allegation he angrily denied.
Wait ... so now we have a credible witness who's story is consistant and verifiable through third parties - and she discussed this with a therapist long long before Kavanaugh ever become nominated.... Now that Kavanaugh won't get the votes needed ..... Now Trump wants an FBI investigation because that the ONLY possible way for his boy to get the votes?
And someone said something about this being all politically motivated. No freaking chit padre.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
This is exactly why there needs to be a march on Washington to remove all members of congress immediately and start over. Most members and the process are pathetic and everything is a circus. COMPLETELY INEPT IN ALL FACETS!
1. Why didn't Ford come forward in the 80's? To me this is highly suspicious. Go to the police, boom, case closed, over.
2. Why was there a delay between July and now for when the findings were released? Hell, the FBI investigation could have taken place during those months if necessary. Why didn't it? Ford didn't want something released, I have no idea.
3. This process has been a disgrace to congress and the government all around. It highly discourages people from even applying or wanting to be a judge or justice in the future. They must think, "If I have to go through this 3 ring circus where others make up things, bring random facts up from 30+ years ago, I don't want to get involved." Also, certain behavior in high school doesn't necessarily make a person as an individual normally matures and changes over time.
4. All of this is based on no evidence so far, especially on Ford's part. If they want an FBI investigation, schedule the start and end dates, the day after the end date will be the confirmation vote hearing, either yes or no.
1. Why didn't Ford come forward in the 80's? To me this is highly suspicious. Go to the police, boom, case closed, over.
2. Why was there a delay between July and now for when the findings were released? Hell, the FBI investigation could have taken place during those months if necessary. Why didn't it? Ford didn't want something released, I have no idea.
3. This process has been a disgrace to congress and the government all around. It highly discourages people from even applying or wanting to be a judge or justice in the future. They must think, "If I have to go through this 3 ring circus where others make up things, bring random facts up from 30+ years ago, I don't want to get involved." Also, certain behavior in high school doesn't necessarily make a person as an individual normally matures and changes over time.
1) Do some research on sexual assault, you'll find your answers to your first question right there. Victims have all kinds of reasons to not come forward. In fact, the majority of sexual assault victims don't ever come forward. That's a fact.
2) The delay has to do with either the Democrats and/or Dr. Ford's wishes to remain anonymous. None of that has anything to do with the validity of Ford's story
3) And the dismissal of Dr. Ford's statements by so many before she even spoke has not done anything to help sexual assault victims to have the guts to come forward and tell their story. See #1.
I don't see how their shouldn't be an investigation on this very allegation. Her statements shouldn't be brushed off as nothing.
Sexual assault is the only crime that the victim has to prove happened. Defendants' ability to call for reasonable doubt, tells more about the person looking at the case than either the victim or the alleged.
You keep talking stall tactics when none of this delays anything until after the elections.
This is the best thing Republicans could possibly do to help promote an image that they care about women who are or may be victims of sexual misconduct and you guys keep kicking and screaming like someone is doing something bad to you.
So, how do you prove sexual assault from 37 years ago when you don't even know where it happened, or IF in fact it happened?
Investigate it, right?
What's there to investigate? She said.....
The same way you prove sexual assault from 37 hours ago. You investigate it.
I would start the investigation on July 1st. That's when Kavanaugh wrote in his calendar that he was going to a party with 3 of the people Ford listed were partying with them that night. You know, when the Prosecutor who the Republicans brought in, started asking about July 1st, that's when Flake and the Republicans started taking back that time.
I would also investigate Judge. To me, he seems slimier than Kavanaugh. He's made his living describing his degenerate time in high school, I'm sure he'd be happy to recant it again. You know Judge is a public speaker according to his publicist?
1 out of every 6 women, according to conservative estimates, have been sexually assaulted.
A lady makes an accusation 37 years later. Believe her. Damn the torpedos.
kavanaugh deserves no hearing, no proof, no facts. Fire him immediately.
lolwut? How does calling for a complete and thorough investigation equate to Kavanaugh deserving no hearing, proof or facts? You're as hysterical as Kavanaugh. Maybe you're Kavanaugh's doppleganger who was sexually assaulting all those ladies like the GOP has been saying.
"A lady" = three women, but I know cons are bad at math, so I won't get up in specifics. You can actually get charged for attempted manslaughter for talking specifics with cons, it causes their brains to implode.
A lady makes an accusation 37 years later. Believe her. Damn the torpedos.
kavanaugh deserves no hearing, no proof, no facts. Fire him immediately.
lolwut? How does calling for a complete and thorough investigation equate to Kavanaugh deserving no hearing, proof or facts? You're as hysterical as Kavanaugh. Maybe you're Kavanaugh's doppleganger who was sexually assaulting all those ladies like the GOP has been saying.
There you go. You got nothing, so you accuse me of being someone that sexually assaults women, or approves of it?
A lady makes an accusation 37 years later. Believe her. Damn the torpedos.
kavanaugh deserves no hearing, no proof, no facts. Fire him immediately.
lolwut? How does calling for a complete and thorough investigation equate to Kavanaugh deserving no hearing, proof or facts? You're as hysterical as Kavanaugh. Maybe you're Kavanaugh's doppleganger who was sexually assaulting all those ladies like the GOP has been saying.
There you go. You got nothing, so you accuse me of being someone that sexually assaults women, or approves of it?
Pathetic.
You have proof?
I'm literally calling for an investigation, while you're possibly trying to cover up sexual assault. No proof? How about his calendar. Funny how you don't respond to my post, facts about the case, but try to make this thread about yourself. It's like I'm dealing with another Vers.
I wonder what many of you would do if a woman you knew, cared about, maybe even a family member, were to be sexually assaulted. Would you believe them if they told you? I hope none of you are given the opportunity to find out.
