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No more cash game advice. We're officially head-to-head competitors this weekend.



GPPs, I'm happy to give my amateur opinion. brownie


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I love Gio Benard without Mixon


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
I love Gio Benard without Mixon


A lot of people do. He had 100% of the RB work last week.


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No more head to head help ... Help a dawg out bro ... *L* ..

I do appreciate all your help and the time your spending .. thank u sir ... thumbsup

So it sounds like I’m on the right track as far as the different contests and the varying strategies u can use to set your line up ...

Any advice there? ...

I started my own head to head contest ... dude had his lineup in before i did and i started the contest ... it was for a buck ... i can’t imagine there’s sharks hanging around looking for a fish to win 80 cents off of ... *L* ...

Anyhow .. here’s my line up for that head to head ...

Ryan
Gio
Hyde
Shepherd
VICE GRIPS
Boyd
Trey Burton
Melvin Gordon
Browns ...

After typing it out .. not really sure how much i like it ... *L* ...

Your thoughts? ...




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I think all of those people are viable cash game players. The only one I would give pause to is Hyde. I like Hyde this week but not sure I'd put him in cash. He's kinda has been hit for miss so far, although he is coming off a 2 TD game last week. But hey, if he goes off, he is a great GPP and cash play. The problem for me is that there are a lot of high priced RBs I like today so that may not have me as much on Hyde as some other players like Gordon, Zeke, Kamara, Barkely,Bernard, etc.

David Johnson is too cheap and Fournette is coming back as well. They'll be low owned and great options in tournaments.


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I went in and changed thing up .... i had gotten rid of Hyde in all but one of my lineups on FanDuel ... i’m In about 10 contests between the two sites ...

I have a lot of the same guys filtered throughout ...

Gio, Gordon, Boyd being on almost all of them with

Zeke, Kamara and Barclay split amongst the teams using one as a RB and the other as a flex ...

This looked like a week to stack up on high priced, high touch volume RB’s and pay down at WR and TE ...

Played a combo of Shepherd, Landry, Ridley, Callaway and even Higgins at WR ...

Played Hooper or Burton at TE ....

Lots of Jags D with the browns in one or two and da bears in one ...

At qb ... lots of dalton with Eli in a couple and then ryan, Tannehill and Watson on one each ...

AND I WAS WRONG .... dude i’m Playing heads up ... dude that filled in about 3 seconds .... he had what appeared to be upside down chevrons on some sort of badge thing .. i had no clue ... found the key ... suedes playing me to win 80 cents and he’s got two upside down chevrons with the line underneath witch means he’s at the highest level .... over 1000 contests and he’s won over 1k more than 3 times ...

WTF is that dude doing hanging around any contest where u win 80 cents .... what a douche ...

Not that i’m Competitive or anything ... *LOL* ....




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Week 4 Recap:

Overall, a 61% return but still struggling mightily in GPPs/Tournaments. Although I made the cash line in all double ups and won most head-to-heads, I had a -54% ROI in GPPs in a 20 lineup max entry tournament. Thanks goodness I play so little compared to cash. Once again, sadly, my cash lineup was my best GPP lineup:

Cash Lineup- 225.08
QB: A. Dalton- 28.78
RB: A. Kamara- 44.10
RB: G. Bernard- 25.60
WR: S. Shepard- 25.70
WR: G. Allison- 14.00
WR: T. Boyd- 24.00
TE: E. Ebron- 15.00
FL: M. Gordon- 33.90
DF: Bears- 14.00

Yesterday morning, I had J. Landry, S. Michel, and Eagles Defense. Then the news was confirmed that Cobb was out and allowed my to pay down for Allison from Landry, pay up for Kamara, and was happy paying down for Bears D at 2.6K to squeeze in Kamara. I had given strong consideration to E.Elliot and thought I made the wrong choice after the 1PM games were completed, but Kamara had a great second half in DFS scoring and made it all work out in the end.


Best GPP Lineup (that wasn't my cash lineup)- 187.08
QB: A. Dalton- 28.78
RB: G. Bernard- 25.60
RB: T. Coleman- 10.70
WR: J. Jones- 29.30
WR: J. Landry- 13.40
WR: T. Ginn- 0.10
TE: J. Cook- 34.00
FL: J. White- 31.20
DF: Bears- 14.00

This was a ATL-CIN game stack for me. I'll pick two or three games each week in tournaments and stack 4-5 players from the same game in the hopes it goes off. Coleman continues to disappoint in DFS even with the Freeman injury and J. Landry continues to disappoint in DFS as well. With all of the targets he gets he still has trouble making value. I may be shying away from him if his price is in the high 6.0K- Mid-7.0K range as Mayfield seems to be spreading the ball around more and Landry has not really proven to have much TD upside. Ginn was a complete flyer. He was low-owned and used it as a leverage play of the Michael Thomas and Kamara ownership. 2-3 games a year, he can go off and thought in a high game total, this wasn't a bad strategy. It just didn't work out. I'll still employ this approach however, when there is a high scoring game and much ownership is funneled towards other players from the same team.

Onward to Week 5....


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Congrats ... i would like a re-match if your so inclined ...

On dk i plated 2 head to heads ... i had my highest scores ever and still got my ass kicked ... u would have beat other dude i played by 2 points ...

I played in a free tourny with 300k and didn’t place ...

I played a 2 dollar tripe up and a 1 dollar double up and won with lower scores than i lost with in my head to head mathups ... *L* ..

I ended up 1.40 cents on DH ,, spent 6 and won 7.40 ..

On fan duel i played in another free tourny and won nuttin ...

Played in 4 other tourny’s and won in 2 of them ... spent 5 and won 6 in fan duel ...

To me learning is whats important .. i measure that by my weekly scores .. there improving ... i’m Gonna track that at some point today ...

I’m still not to 200 and thats not gonna come close to cutting it when i venture out of begginers world ...

Thanks for all your help dawg .. i appreciate it ....




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Tough week in the two contests I played. Cash line in Yahoo in a single entry 100 team 50/50 was 140pts (70% of $200 salary cap, in points). Usually 120 points (60%) is all but guaranteed to get you paid in my experience...this week it was good for 84th frown

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Sure we can play again...I'll send over an invite shortly.

Week 5 first look:

First off, there are eight games with projected total at 50 or higher...EIGHT. I think that is the most so far this year by a rather large margin. I'm sure a number of factors are leading to so many games projected this high but it was still crazy to see this early on in the week. I think a strategy might be finding the sneaky high scoring game people won't be on as much and stack that. Not sure which one that is though.

QB
Big Ben looks good at home with such a high game total. I guess Matt Ryan does too, but he is on the road. The matchup I really like, based on price, is Bortles vs a KC Defense. Fournette might be out and Bortles has shown to throw a ton more when he is not in the game. I would need 15-18 points for 3x value. That's doable but still scares me as I'm not a Bortles fan. A potential low-owned play could be Rosen (4.7K) playing at home against SF. Russell Wilson is also sooo cheap but that offense is so antiquated and stale. Matt Stafford at home in a 50+ game total stood out as well as he is decently priced at 5.7K.

RB

Top end guys continue to stick out in Gurley and McCaffrey. Connor too. I think Bernard is still too cheap with all the usage he gets at 6.8K. DraftKings is begging me to play David Johnson at 6.3K. I'm just not sure if I can trust the same usage as last week to put him in a cash lineup. Hopefully more reports can add some clarity on his usage as the week goes on because I think he is in a great spot.

WR

I will probably try and spend down again. The JAX WRs interest me if Fournette is out. They're both under 5K, I believe. I wish I could pay up for Antonio Brown in cash, but I don't think I'll be able to get there. Lots of #2 WRs in good spots this week. Not sure which ones I'll be heavy on just yet. Tawan Taylor is tempting.

TE
Vance McDonald and Njoku. Also, now that Eifert is out, Uzomah is someone who interests me but probably just a GPP play.

DEF

Browns, Rams, Panthers, Titans so far are in play for me.


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What is it u like about those D’s? ,,, why them?




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They check boxes (although not all boxes) of high turnover rate, poor QBs relative to others playing, going against overall weaker teams, low game total, cheap price.

Stuff like that.


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I'll also add, because I don't play the Sunday or Monday night games, I'm glad New Orleans is playing on Monday night so we can see how Ingram's usage (no matter the level) alters Kamara's.


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Why don’t u play sunday or Monday nights?

Do u play thursday nights? ... if so, whats the difference?




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I may play them in Showdown contests, but I stick to the main slate stuff (1PM and 4PM) games for the main $ allocation for cash and GPPs. There's three less games to worry about, much media content and articles to view is usually focused for those games, etc. There is also more money available to win on those slates as well.

I'll do one-off contests from time to time, but focus my research and time to the main slate games.


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Ty sir .... thumbsup

Are showdown contests = head to head ... if not, whats a showdown?




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Showdowns are the one NFL game contests. So, for example, KC vs DEN last night where you could pick between 5 players. Those contests can be BOTH cash or GPPs. It depends on what contests within that slate you choose.


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Randall Cobb didn't practice and Geronimo Allison is in concussion protocol. Tons of potential pass-catching volume up for grabs if they both don't play, going against a team that has given up the third most WR fantasy points on DK in a 51 point game total.





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Who benefits?

I plan on playing Allison if he clears protocol ...

Built a few lineups .. will be back to see what u think later ...

Interesting week ... in my 4 week long dfs career I’ve never s en anything like it ... *L* ...




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Who Benefits at WR?

Maybe Ty Montgomery, Equanimeous St. Brown, or Marquez Valdes-Scantling in terms of more usage.

Possibly DeVante Adams gets more targets or a contrarian play could be to focus attention to Jimmy Graham?

Tons of possible options here, but plenty of opportunity if they are both ruled out.


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Coach Mike McCarthy singled out rookie Marquez Valdes-Scantling as the next man up at receiver should Randall Cobb (hamstring) and Geronimo Allison (concussion) sit Week 5 against the Lions.

McCarthy said he has "great confidence" in the other rookie WRs J'Mon Moore and Equanimeous St. Brown, but Valdes-Scantling will "have a role" and was named by the coach. It's been pretty clear through four weeks fifth-rounder Valdes-Scantling is ahead of the other two rookies. MVS played 54-of-76 snaps last week as the starting slot man, catching a 38-yard pass on three targets. He'll be in line for a bigger role if Cobb and Allison are unable to play
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/382053/McCarthy--Valdes-Scantling-is-next-up-at-WR


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Ty sir .... thumbsup

My first line up ... it’s a 3,500 beginner contest ... pays out 700 places ...

So this is a gpp? .. one u should stack for the most part ... is that correct?

Ben
Conner
D. Johnson
JuJu
Boyd
Galloway
N. Vinett (seahags te) .. he’s the only one on the roster .. not a fan of him this week but i needed the cash and liked no one else in that price range ...
K.Cole
Browns ...

Thoughts/ advice ...

Class is open ... thumbsup




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Is Galloway...

Calloway?
Galloday?
Joey Galloway?

Is there a Galloway I'm forgeting in the NFL?


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Golladay ... oooops

Did u play me for free so u can help me or did u make a mistake?




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Oops. Made a mistake. I can cancel that contest, and set up a different one.

Up to you.


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It’s up to u ...

I’ll say this ...

Your help is more important to me than playing u head to head right now ... u mentioned last week u didn’t want to give me any more help last week cause we were playing h2h ...

So if u don’t want to help me if u we play heads up ... witch I understand ... I’d rather play u for fun or not play u at all ...

Let me know dawg ...

Also ... your critique of my line up if u would be so kind ... and if I could answer my question on weather it’s considered a gpp or not ... I’m still foggy on that one ...

Thanks again Memphis .. I really appreciate the time your taking to help me ...




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Did u see Adams didn’t practice today ... neither did Cobb or Allison .. there we corps could be a real mess ..




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I don't think the Adams stuff is that big of a deal. Just giving him some rest. Darius Slay will probably shadow him this weekend, is my guess.

I'm gonna take a few flyers on Montgomery is GPPs. Low-owned and might go off. Switzer from Pit too.


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Ben- at least as of today, he is projected to be the highest-owned QB in tournaments. So if you go with him, make sure to differentiate your lineup elsewhere.
Conner- Has not seen the amount of passing targets recently as he did in Week 1. In fact, I think they used Switzer quite a bit in the backfield on passing downs. Still, RBs usually go to town in the passing game against ATL.
D. Johnson- love this play. I just hope they use him a ton.
JuJu- tons of injuries in the ATL secondary. A. Brown is definately going to be the highest owned WR. This is a nice pivot away from that, IMO.
Boyd
Galloway- Clearly the fav WR is a high socring game.
N. Vinett (seahags te) .. he’s the only one on the roster .. not a fan of him this week but i needed the cash and liked no one else in that price range ...Don't know much about him, but TE has a ton of scoring variance so, if he is cheap, a couple of receptions is really all you need. What about Will Dissly? Has he been targeted at all?
K.Cole- I like all the JAX WRs this week. Even Moncrief. I might try to spread them around in many lineups this weekend.
Browns- Cheap with tons of turnover upside. I like them alot too.


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With the amount of entries in it .. would u pick a different qb ...

I like Stafford a lot but he will prolly be owned a lot also? ... He’s the one I played in most of my other line ups ...

Bortles, dalton for this contest?

Conner ... good point about Switzer and the amount of time he’s spending in the backfield on recieving Downs ... that was why I liked Conner ... cause the falcons suck at gaurding rb’s ... I have him in a lot of lineups ... gonna remove him from most of them .... I thought about switzer but not in that light ....

JuJu - wish I could say I chose him to pivot from ab ... I just didn’t want to pay for him ...*L*

U don’t like the bungles so much u wouldn’t talk about Boyd ... *L*

Kole - I played either him or Westbrook’s in almost all my lineups this week ...

Vannett - not a big fan ... he’s cheap and dissly is on ir .. as of right now Vannett is the only te on the roster ... like u I didn’t like anything else in that price range and I wanted to spend in other places .. wanted to finish off my Stiler stack with McDonald ... couldn’t afford him ...

Was I along the right lines in the fact that I stacked liked I did for the number of contestants?

Is this a gpp?




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
With the amount of entries in it .. would u pick a different qb ...

I like Stafford a lot but he will prolly be owned a lot also? ... He’s the one I played in most of my other line ups ...

Bortles, dalton for this contest?

Conner ... good point about Switzer and the amount of time he’s spending in the backfield on recieving Downs ... that was why I liked Conner ... cause the falcons suck at gaurding rb’s ... I have him in a lot of lineups ... gonna remove him from most of them .... I thought about switzer but not in that light ....

JuJu - wish I could say I chose him to pivot from ab ... I just didn’t want to pay for him ...*L*

U don’t like the bungles so much u wouldn’t talk about Boyd ... *L*

Kole - I played either him or Westbrook’s in almost all my lineups this week ...

Vannett - not a big fan ... he’s cheap and dissly is on ir .. as of right now Vannett is the only te on the roster ... like u I didn’t like anything else in that price range and I wanted to spend in other places .. wanted to finish off my Stiler stack with McDonald ... couldn’t afford him ...

Was I along the right lines in the fact that I stacked liked I did for the number of contestants?

Is this a gpp?





It really depends on the entries YOU would put in it. So, for example, if there is a tournament/GPP (by the way, I'm going to stick with tournament moving forward, it's essentially the same thing) that can allow for 150 lineup entries and you only want to enter 10, my suggestion would be to stay away from highly owned players. If you put in 150 lineups, then it's fine to enter the highly owned guys, just make sure you try to diversify in the lineups that have them.

Stafford is currently 2nd to Ben in terms of ownership projection according to the site I follow. So, yeah, you're right.

My cash game QB, as of right now comes down to Bortles or Stafford. Dalton, not so much.

How about we just stick to the free contest? An 80 cent win is rather insignificant for both of us. What's more valuable & fun, to me at least, is the on going conversation and breakdown of players. Hopefully, it encourages more to chime in. And after the free contest is over, we can breakdown the contest and justify why we played our respective roster.


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100% on board with that ..

When unsay tourny’s can u give a range of contestants you’ll play in ...

Once out of beginners land ... is the milly mAkers the only gpp or is there “smaller gpp’s also?

How long u been playing these? ... u know a lot of “game theory” ...




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Someone has been listening to DFS podcasts. tongue


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
100% on board with that ..

When unsay tourny’s can u give a range of contestants you’ll play in ...

Once out of beginners land ... is the milly mAkers the only gpp or is there “smaller gpp’s also?

How long u been playing these? ... u know a lot of “game theory” ...


This is the second year I've been playing weekly, consistently. But I think I started dabbling in 2015. I play NBA too. That's a ton of fun, especially with slates every night.

My range is only small tournaments with 20 entry max. As evidence of my tournament results, I'm not good. I need to refine the process.

There are plenty of tournaments outside the Milly Maker.

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How r u not good ... u make money every week ...

Are your scores in the gpp’s not good enough to place in them but good enough to win the 20 person and under tourny’s ...

I been listening to a ton of podcasts ...

Milly maker is from them ...

Game theory comes from poker .. wink




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
How r u not good ... u make money every week ...

Are your scores in the gpp’s not good enough to place in them but good enough to win the 20 person and under tourny’s ...

I been listening to a ton of podcasts ...

Milly maker is from them ...

Game theory comes from poker .. wink


I've made a profit THIS year strictly due to cash games, not tournaments. I've had a lot of the right players, just not in the same lineups. Hopefully soon, I'll wise up.

I will say, this week's slate has me worried cash game wise. So many good, pricey RB plays that I like. If I get one or two wrong, I'm screwed.


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FYI- early morning ownership projection reports show JuJu (25%) could be more owned in tournaments than A. Brown (20%). Just keep that in mind.


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Diam, I have told you this three times, but I'll try one more time.

Playing the tournaments is like playing the lottery. You throw down a small amount in hopes of making a large amount. You also almost always lose. Play one tournament a week. Throw a buck down and hope you get lucky.

I make a profit in Daily Fantasy Football because I play about a dozen smaller contests each week. I don't know how Draft Kings works, but in Fan Duel..........you go to tab that says 3-100 player leagues. From there, enter contests where there are only 3 players or 4-10. You can play one larger one if you like, such as a 20 or 100 player league, but they are harder to win.

It is much easier to win in 3 and 10 player contests. You don't win as much, but you win. And that should be the bottom line. I make a profit every year. It's not dramatic, but it beats losing money. And you still get the excitement of each contest.

One other thing. I've warned you about listening to the "experts." Think about it like this...........a lot of players listen to the same things you are. It's better to do your own homework and follow favorable match-ups because you can create unique lineups.

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Interesting updates to injury report, especially in the Bengal/Dolphin and Packers/Lions games.

http://kwese.espn.com/fantasy/football/s...-injury-updates

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j/c:

Ugh. I had a really bad week in terms of cash games. I didn't make the money line (missed by roughly 7 points) in double ups and only won a handful of head to heads. Overall I had a -39% ROI. I did have my best tournament return of the year at 124% but the allocation on cash games compared to tournaments was much bigger as it is every week.

Cash Game Lineup- 137.02

QB: M. Stafford- 15.22
RB: T. Gurley- 33.30
RB: M.Gordon- 22.00
WR:M. Jones- 7.80
WR:T. Taylor- 5.00
WR: M. Valdez-Scantling- 19.80
TE: V. McDonald- 1.60
FL: C. McCaffrey- 20.30
DF: Browns- 12.00

I had a tough time picking between Gurley, Gordon, McCaffrey, D. Johnson, and Conner. If I had subbed either CMC or Gordon for Conner it would have been a good day, even with the poor WR performances from Jones and Taylor. I just missed on the better play.

Best GPP Lineup- 184.02
QB: J. Flacco- 12.22
RB: S. Barkley- 28.90
RB: J. Allen- 12.80
WR: K. Allen- 17.50
WR: A. Theilen- 27.60
WR: M. Valdez- Scantling- 19.80
TE: A. Hooper- 16.70
FL: J.Connor- 37.50
DF: Ravens- 11.00

A small Ravens' stack because I knew Flacco would be low-owned and also liked correlating a QB to a pass catching RB, and that RB to their defense. It was mildly successful. It allowed me to afford higher priced WR in good spots and Conner. It was a weird week as the best lineup in the tournament I played was 228 pts or something. Not very high.

Nice win, Diam. See you next week!


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