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I think he meant Robinson.
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If anybody doesn't know about the BrownsFilmBreakdown twitter site. Find it.
I was on there today and came away with two things.
Corbett: He was in on some early Hyde runs looked like at RG. He executed his assignments well. So he's getting some reps and developing.
Harrison: The guy who does these breakdowns really allows you to see some things you would probably not focus on while watching the game realtime. Anyway, he showed a few plays late in OT where Harrison was being handled by Suggs on bull rushes. He was seriously on skates and was pushed back into Mayfield. The Breakdown Guy was concerned, and now I'm concerned, that with these reps on tape other defenses will exploit Harrison's weakness against the bull rush. So OL guys, what's the best way to counter a bull rush? Obviously, strength is a factor. We know Harrison has to get stronger but is there any technique that will help until he gets an offseason to improve his strength?
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... Hubbard is the weak link on the line ... I wonder how long they keep Greg Robinson riding the pine... Harrison is horrible. Pure emergency backup and that is all. What? Are you talking Desmond Harrison? Terrible?
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I think he meant Robinson.
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Well, I would hope he mixed up a name there, cause Desmonnd Harrison has been great so far.
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I think that both Tackles had a tough game yesterday. I'm not saying they suck, but it was a tough game for both guys.
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oh i agree. i really like what i see from him.
he's going against tough competition and is holding his own. i really like this kid I agree. I was at the game and watched him some. I have to be honest, while at games I watch the ball more often then not. Desmond is looking pretty darn good for a young guy with little experience. If he keeps making progress we may not need to think LT prospect with our 1st or second round picks. It would be really cool if we could draft a bookend corner to team with Ward. We are close to having an elite defense.
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If anybody doesn't know about the BrownsFilmBreakdown twitter site. Find it.
I was on there today and came away with two things.
Corbett: He was in on some early Hyde runs looked like at RG. He executed his assignments well. So he's getting some reps and developing.
Harrison: The guy who does these breakdowns really allows you to see some things you would probably not focus on while watching the game realtime. Anyway, he showed a few plays late in OT where Harrison was being handled by Suggs on bull rushes. He was seriously on skates and was pushed back into Mayfield. The Breakdown Guy was concerned, and now I'm concerned, that with these reps on tape other defenses will exploit Harrison's weakness against the bull rush. So OL guys, what's the best way to counter a bull rush? Obviously, strength is a factor. We know Harrison has to get stronger but is there any technique that will help until he gets an offseason to improve his strength? Joe put it best: get low, sink the hips, and anchor down. It helps to be a bit stronger, but if you play with good leverage, that can mitigate a LOT. Shoulders over thighs over center of gravity. If your shoulders get pushed behind your thighs where your torso is now more upright, they've got you... your only option is to fall on your ass or backpedal FAST. If you don't have a good base and solid leverage, even if you're stupidly strong, you can get beat pretty badly.
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I would be curious to know if the bull rush fails on his part were fatigue, technique, maybe a little slow in recognizing what Suggs was coming with, etc.... Suggs may have figured out something like if you get him to set for an speed/edge rush, then turn into a bull rush, he doesn't adapt fast enough, or something. No idea, but that - I'm sure - is being looked at in the OL room this week, and Joe will probably have a call with him as well (I hope!).
Also - Suggs is an exception to just about every rule. Just because he did it, doesn't mean every other DE/OLB in the league has what it takes to pull it off. Especially once he is coached up on it.
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oh i agree. i really like what i see from him.
he's going against tough competition and is holding his own. i really like this kid I agree. I was at the game and watched him some. I have to be honest, while at games I watch the ball more often then not. Desmond is looking pretty darn good for a young guy with little experience. If he keeps making progress we may not need to think LT prospect with our 1st or second round picks. It would be really cool if we could draft a bookend corner to team with Ward. We are close to having an elite defense. I think we need a linebacker more than a corner currently.
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... Hubbard is the weak link on the line ... I wonder how long they keep Greg Robinson riding the pine... Harrison is horrible. Pure emergency backup and that is all. What? Are you talking Desmond Harrison? Terrible? Total brain fart, meant Robinson.
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Good stuff Purple. I appreciate the response, makes sense. Like you say, he'll get coached up on it. I'll be looking to see how he applies it going forward.
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oh i agree. i really like what i see from him.
he's going against tough competition and is holding his own. i really like this kid I agree. I was at the game and watched him some. I have to be honest, while at games I watch the ball more often then not. Desmond is looking pretty darn good for a young guy with little experience. If he keeps making progress we may not need to think LT prospect with our 1st or second round picks. It would be really cool if we could draft a bookend corner to team with Ward. We are close to having an elite defense. I was thinking LB.. but another corner would work.
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My thoughts were more toward a DT.
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Ereck Flowers will be released today ... I'm not advocating for him, just stating the facts
Rumors are that some teams will have interest
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Ereck Flowers will be released today ... I'm not advocating for him, just stating the facts
Rumors are that some teams will have interest Oh, and he's been abysmal on and off the field.
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My thoughts were more toward a DT. I don't want to hijack this thread but, I agree with you, DT. What I want is another 1 gap penetrator like Ogunjobi. In another thread, EO mentioned Raekwon Davis of Bama. I'm starting to like that pick. Should we start a 2019 Draft thread? Not because our '18 season is a flaming heap of schizzle but because we are so excited about our future with Dorsey making the selections.
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If anybody doesn't know about the BrownsFilmBreakdown twitter site. Find it.
I was on there today and came away with two things.
Corbett: He was in on some early Hyde runs looked like at RG. He executed his assignments well. So he's getting some reps and developing.
Harrison: The guy who does these breakdowns really allows you to see some things you would probably not focus on while watching the game realtime. Anyway, he showed a few plays late in OT where Harrison was being handled by Suggs on bull rushes. He was seriously on skates and was pushed back into Mayfield. The Breakdown Guy was concerned, and now I'm concerned, that with these reps on tape other defenses will exploit Harrison's weakness against the bull rush. So OL guys, what's the best way to counter a bull rush? Obviously, strength is a factor. We know Harrison has to get stronger but is there any technique that will help until he gets an offseason to improve his strength? In fairness, even Joe Thomas had his hands full with Suggs. Everyone does.
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j/c:
I think Harrison being bull-rushed is a bit of an exaggeration by the dude who made the video. I saw it once where it was an issue and another time where it was perhaps a concern. Most of the time, Harrison used Suggs momentum to steer him past the pocket, just like he is supposed to do.
I think he had a fantastic game against one of the most dominant edge guys in the NFL.
I might do a breakdown on him soon, but I also want to mention that his run blocking is being underrated. He does a great job w/combination blocks and gap [or angle] blocking.
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My thoughts were more toward a DT. I’d like to throw RT into the mix ... HUBBARDS BRUTAL .... my worst fears have been realized with that dude ... Luckily we have a ton of cap space and were gonna be like the Isle next year for FA’s ... A POPULAR DESTINATION .... WOOF WOOF ...
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My thoughts were more toward a DT. I’d like to throw RT into the mix ... HUBBARDS BRUTAL .... my worst fears have been realized with that dude ... Luckily we have a ton of cap space and were gonna be like the Isle next year for FA’s ... A POPULAR DESTINATION .... WOOF WOOF ... Also it probably wouldn't be a bad year to draft one.
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Desmond Harrison has done a great job.
Terrell Suggs is a sure fire Hall of Famer. On more than one occasion he made Joe Thomas look average. #73 was anything but average but Suggs had more than a few great plays at the expense of our greatest player over the last decade.
I do not think Harrison is near #73's level yet, but there is no doubt in my mind he has the potential to be great.
How great is it discussing next years draft as an opportunity to add key pieces to the roster instead of praying for a franchise difference maker?
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Going strictly from memory, I thought both Tackles were just OK. There was a lot of pressure from the pocket collapsing from the outside, and Mayfield managing to get out of big trouble.
I don't think that Harrison played badly, given who he played against, but I think it was a learning experience for him.
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j/c:
I think Harrison being bull-rushed is a bit of an exaggeration by the dude who made the video. I saw it once where it was an issue and another time where it was perhaps a concern. Most of the time, Harrison used Suggs momentum to steer him past the pocket, just like he is supposed to do.
I think he had a fantastic game against one of the most dominant edge guys in the NFL.
I might do a breakdown on him soon, but I also want to mention that his run blocking is being underrated. He does a great job w/combination blocks and gap [or angle] blocking. Not to mention, have you seen how well he gets to the second level? He seals, then moves up nicely.... saw it clearly on at least one big run recently.
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I noticed that this morning when i re-watched on 2 or 3 plays .. he made his initial block and moved right on down to make another ... I can’t wait to get back to SC so I can watch in my DVR so i can re-wind the plays and focus on what you, Vers and the tape Joe did taught me awhile back about techniques ... When i watched before i left he seemed to be struggling with leverage bigtime ... Hope Vers does his breakdown soon ... been looking forward to that for awhile now ... 
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j/c:
I think Harrison being bull-rushed is a bit of an exaggeration by the dude who made the video. I saw it once where it was an issue and another time where it was perhaps a concern. Most of the time, Harrison used Suggs momentum to steer him past the pocket, just like he is supposed to do.
I think he had a fantastic game against one of the most dominant edge guys in the NFL.
I might do a breakdown on him soon, but I also want to mention that his run blocking is being underrated. He does a great job w/combination blocks and gap [or angle] blocking. Not to mention, have you seen how well he gets to the second level? He seals, then moves up nicely.... saw it clearly on at least one big run recently. The three runs by Duke at the end of the game show he is clearly a force. On the second run, there was nothing there... He pushed his guy through another Ravens defender (the one that would clearly tackle Duke for no gain) and Duke just jumped in the melee for a 6 yard ride. It was something else. He jumped up after the ending pancake and was fired up - he knew those were his six yards lol.
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Nice to have some other eyes that know OL technique take a look at this. It helps put things in perspective. A good reminder that Suggs has been a dominant force for years, including going against Joe T.
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Yep. That is what I meant by the "Combination blocks." Good eyes by you in recognizing it.
I was reading some of his run blocking grades which were not very good, so I started watching closer. Dude is doing a pretty good job at run blocking. He is better than his grades indicate.
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He is better than his grades indicate. I'm calling it now: if he keeps on going at this level (and I believe he will and even get better every week), he will, at the minimum, be a Pro Bowl Alternate, if not actually take a spot there.
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I don't think that will happen this year, but the future could be very bright.
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I don't think that will happen this year, but the future could be very bright. Two thirds of that voting is fans and media. He literally just needs to keep playing the way he is and get a bit of talk/buzz going about him in the media going into the second half of the season so that people even know who he is when voting opens.
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If this dude keeps his head on we are set for years. This is like lightning in a bottle. And we struck 3 times in one draft. Gotta love karma. It’s been due....
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How can this team lose a first ballot HOF LT and not miss a beat with an undrafted rookie from tiny West Georgia ... John Dorsey
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If this dude keeps his head on we are set for years. This is like lightning in a bottle. And we struck 3 times in one draft. Gotta love karma. It’s been due.... I agree. It will be HUGE if we don't feel compelled to draft a LT early in the draft. A bookend corner to Ward would be great. A stud backer would be great. A stud WR would be great. But we have done it in the past. We transitioned from Lou Groza to Dick Schafrath, to Diek. We had 3 LT's over about 40 years. Maybe we make another transition that eats up some years.
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VERS!! Waiting on that breakdown of Harrison. I love reading your football posts. Hope you are well bro!
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I'll get to it, bro. I recorded the games and am working my way through them. Play by stinking play. Taking forever. I'm close.
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He is better than his grades indicate. I'm calling it now: if he keeps on going at this level (and I believe he will and even get better every week), he will, at the minimum, be a Pro Bowl Alternate, if not actually take a spot there. Y'all.............isn't it cool to actually be excited about some of the players and this team for once? So many of us were apathetic for so many years. We rooted for the team out of loyalty, but it really sucked. I used to dread watching the games and I don't think I was alone w/that sentiment. Now, I am psyched to watch the games. I have all these crazy superstitions. I might get up at the end of each play. I might stand for a series. I might not move for another. LMAO...........it's crazy. But, you know what? It's finally fun again. I have been screaming at the TV again. Praying. Cursing. Praying some more. Falling to my knees. Screaming at the top of my lungs. Fist pumping. Yeah man! It's fun again. And I don't think I am alone on that one, either. 
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I've been getting texts from friends giving me congrats on a 2-2-1 start, lol!
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It will never happen, but going against Suggs and holding your own would qualify for a rookie of the week for me....
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My thoughts were more toward a DT. I’d like to throw RT into the mix ... HUBBARDS BRUTAL .... my worst fears have been realized with that dude ... Luckily we have a ton of cap space and were gonna be like the Isle next year for FA’s ... A POPULAR DESTINATION .... WOOF WOOF ... Yes Hubbard would prolly get my award for biggest letdown of the year so far. If Mr. Dorsey can duplicate another years draft and FA period like the last we gonna have to build more condos on the isle my friend. It's gonna be wild !
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