Hundreds of Honduran migrants are headed for the United States border, just days after Vice President Pence sat down with the Central American country’s leader, urging him to take a tougher stance on mass migrations.
At least 1,300 people, including young children, left San Pedro Sula in northern Honduras on Saturday, in what some are calling the “March of the Migrant,” Reuters reported.
Bartolo Fuentes, the organizer, told the news agency that the group plans to march through Guatemala and into Mexico. From there, participants will request refugee status, which would allow them to stay in the country, or they will apply for a visa to pass through into the U.S.
The development came just days after Pence met with Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, President Jimmy Morales of Guatemala and Vice President Oscar Ortiz of El Salvador, asking them to step up and help combat illegal immigration in return for help from the U.S.
Pence addressed the three leaders on Thursday in Washington, at the Conference for Prosperity and Security in Central America.
"If you do more, I'm here to say on behalf of the president of the United States and the American people, we'll do more," he said.
Pence said that flows of illegal immigrants from Honduras and Guatemala are up 61 percent and 75 percent, respectively.
According to the Reuters report, 64 percent of Honduran households live in poverty. Many of the migrants are fleeing a poor economy and some of the highest crime rates in the world.
Hernandez told Pence he would like more certainty about what to expect from the United States, because the funds requested by the Trump administration are below allocations from previous years.
The Trump administration proposed $460 million in assistance last year, 30 percent less than what Congress approved in 2016 under President Barack Obama.
Mass migrations have become a growing problem at the border. In May, almost 200 migrants from Central America attempted to seek asylum in the U.S. after traveling with a caravan of over 1,000 migrants.
“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”
The reason we built this Nation the way we did was to insure our own citizens would never have to live that way and go through the things that those poor people have to go through.
With the Democrats wanting to throw open our borders to the millions upon millions of people who want to come here I now worry for my children and grandchildren. They could be the ones doing a mass migration in the future if we wreck this country.
The reason we built this Nation the way we did was to insure our own citizens would never have to live that way and go through the things that those poor people have to go through.
Hmmmm........
Quote:
LAPD Blocked Dust Bowl Migrants at State Borders March 09, 2003|Cecilia Rasmussen | Times Staff Writer
Email
Share
I'd rather drink muddy water
Sleep out in a hollow log
Than be in California
Treated like a dirty dog.
*
This is what the migrants sang in the 1930s, when the Golden State was anything but welcoming to the "tired and poor" masses heading this way from Dust Bowl-ravaged states.
For a few months in 1936, the Los Angeles Police Department launched a foreign excursion of sorts -- a "Bum Blockade" on the state's borders. The LAPD deployed 136 officers to 16 major points of entry on the Arizona, Nevada and Oregon lines, with orders to turn back migrants with "no visible means of support."
The man responsible, Police Chief James Edgar "Two-Gun" Davis, was a former cotton-picker from Texas who came to California in 1911, dirt poor and uneducated. Davis, whose moniker referred to his extraordinary marksmanship with a pistol, liked to say that constitutional rights were of "no benefit to anybody but crooks and criminals."
Davis contended that his men needed no special approval because "any officer has the authority to enforce the state law." (There was no such law.) Nevertheless, he asked border-county sheriffs to deputize his officers. Some officials refused, including the Modoc County sheriff, who forced 14 LAPD officers to leave after they turned away local residents trying to return home.
The City of Angels had built itself by luring migrants west to sunny skies and balmy temperatures. But its attitude took a 180-degree turn during the Great Depression as jobs dried up and thousands of unemployed overwhelmed the city. Many civic leaders viewed police as a way to stem a transient tide estimated as high as 100,000 a year -- a vast influx immortalized in John Steinbeck's "The Grapes of Wrath."
The migrant horde from whom Steinbeck drew his fiction came out of the drought-stricken states of Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, New Mexico and Arkansas. Lumped together as "Okies," they were the butt of derogatory jokes and the focus of political campaigns in which candidates made them the scapegoat for a shattered economy. They were accused of "shiftlessness," "lack of ambition," "school overcrowding" and "stealing jobs" from native Californians.
They included railroad-fare evaders; hitchhikers; owners of loaded-down jalopies that hammered, rattled and smoked; and, in The Times' own words then, "all other persons who have no definite purpose in coming into the state."
Railroads obligingly halted freight trains near police outposts. The transients, once in custody, were offered a simple choice: Either leave California or serve a 180-day jail term with hard labor. In jail, Davis said, they were entitled to only a Bible, "beans and abuse."
At the California-Nevada line near Reno, a white billboard showed a baton-wielding, blue-uniformed cop with his palm thrust out near an imposing red "STOP!" sign and the phrase: "Los Angeles City Limits."
Incidents at checkpoints were often tense and pathetic. When a weary-faced mother with six children, carrying only $3.40, was asked by police to pay $3 for a California auto license, she broke down and cried, "That's food for my babies." They let her in for free, making her one of the lucky few -- about one in every thousand -- who inspired mercy.
Although many people opposed the effort, Davis' supporters included The Times, the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce, the city prosecutor's office, some judges and public officials, railroads, the sheriff, the county Department of Charities, and hard-pressed state relief agencies.
In answer to charges that the blockade was an outrage, The Times editorialized: "Let's Have More Outrages." The paper praised the effort as an answer to the waste of taxpayers' "hard-got tax money" and a way to keep out "imported criminals ... radicals and troublemakers."
'Thieves and Thugs'
Davis promised that $1.5 million would be saved on "thieves and thugs" and another $3 million in welfare payments.
The now-defunct Los Angeles Evening News, however, editorialized that the blockade "violates every principle that Americans hold dear
At the same time that Davis sent officers to the border, he unleashed another weapon against penniless newcomers -- a special "flying squadron" of detectives and patrolmen. Although street sweeps for criminals and homeless men were routine, the special raids included indigent families, single women, juveniles and men unable to work because of illness. Those arrested were given funds from the Los Angeles County Relief Administration for railroad tickets back to their "legal homes."
Some City Council members demanded to know the chief's authority for the border blockade. After weeks of inaction, the council passed a motion asking the city attorney's opinion. That request quickly became moot -- and not because of any government action.
The Irish in New York By Claddagh Design on Oct 10, 2017 @ 1:35 am in History, Ireland 0
Empire_State_Building_New_Y
Many cities on the east coast of North America are well known for their large Irish American communities; Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, and the most well known of all, New York City, are just a few. By the late 19th century one quarter of the populations of these cities were Irish immigrants. New York still has the biggest Irish American population than any other city in the States, and at one point in history had more Irish residents than Dublin, the Irish capital! With such strong links to the Emerald Isle, it got us thinking here at Claddagh Design that it would be interesting to take a look its links with the Big Apple.
Arriving in New York
From the early 19th century, New York had been established as the primary American colony. Infrastructure had vastly improved, the population was booming and a steady trickle of immigrants from all over mainland Europe (and some from even further afield) began to arrive, increasing to a stream and then a rushing river as the century progressed. In 1855 the first immigration depot was established at Castle Garden, a fort that had stood at the tip of Manhattan since the war of 1812 (today, it’s Battery Park). By 1890 the federal government had assumed control and opened a new Bureau of Immigration, located on Ellis Island in upper New York harbour. This became the entry depot for all immigrants to the city, and in its 62 years of operation it processed an astounding 12 million people. That’s almost 200,000 a year or a rough average of around 500 people per day!
Meanwhile in Ireland, the country and most of its citizens were poorly educated, heavily reliant on agriculture, and outside of the cities badly managed by the British government. Many rural residents were living in poverty due to exploitative landlords – at the time almost all agricultural land was owned by a select few rich members of the upper classes, most of whom had no empathy or understanding of poorer classes. Mid way through the 19th century, potato crops all across Europe failed because of a condition known as blight. For the poor Irish classes, potatoes were all they could afford to grow on the small patch of land that they rented, so no potatoes meant starvation.
The Famine lasted several years before the British government and others finally intervened, and it’s estimated that almost 1 million people died and another 1.5 million emigrated. Many went to the UK, but the majority took the cheapest option available, which were ‘coffin ships’ that crossed the Atlantic. These run down wooden ships took several weeks to make the crossing. Hygiene standards were terrible, disease spread quickly, there was nowhere near enough food to go around, and plenty of people died along the way – hence the name. When the ships finally arrived at Ellis Island, they were often quarantined before people were finally allowed to set foot on solid ground again. Most of these malnourished, uneducated people arrived without a single penny in their pockets, having spent what little money they had on the passage over. They had no choice but to stay in whatever city they landed in and take whatever work they were offered.
The Irish immigrants of New York were alone in a place completely unlike anything they had known in their previous life. Many of them were illiterate and had no skills. The only thing they could do in order to start afresh was stick together. An Irish community developed in an area on the western edge of Midtown alongside the Hudson river. Once a rural area, as the city expanded it filled up with industrial buildings several storeys high. When masses of Irish immigrants started flooding to the area, these buildings became tenements, with several families or groups of people living in single rooms. Most worked on the docks, on the railroads, or in other manual labour jobs so that they could earn enough to feed themselves, but little more.
This quickly resulted in the Irish gaining a negative reputation among more well-off New Yorkers. With little income and less education, it wasn’t long before they turned to petty crime, and when combined with the deterioration of Hell’s Kitchen into derelict buildings, the area was quickly branded as ‘the most dangerous place on the whole American continent’. The fact that there were slaughter houses in the area and underground breweries during the prohibition area didn’t help its reputation either. Many parts of the Bronx and Queens as well as the Inwood and Five Points areas of Manhattan were also known for having large Irish communities, but Hell’s Kitchen was the largest and the one that still stands out for most. The name is enough to turn people away (which is probably why the area is now known as Clinton!), but street names such as ‘Battle Row’ and ‘Poverty Lane’ did no favours either.
Gangs of New York
If you’ve seen the film of the same name, you’ll know that Hell’s Kitchen became notorious around this era for its fighting. In fact, this may even be where the completely false stereotype of the ‘fighting Irish’ originated. People from so many different cultural and social backgrounds, living in such close quarters and living in squalor was a recipe for conflict. Irish protestants and Catholics fought amongst themselves, and then other nationalities who settled in the area added further complications. Violence became the way of life for the people of Hell’s Kitchen, so the next natural step was obvious; organised crime and gangs.
The Forty Thieves were the first organised crime gang ever to hit New York’s streets. They were group of Irish immigrants in the 1820s led by Edward Coleman, hailing from the Five Points area of the city but operating on the Lower East Side. They held meetings in a grocery store on Centre Street, where members would be given assignments and issued quotas of illegal activities to meet. This caused strong competition between the younger and more experienced members of the group. The Forty Thieves even established partnerships with corrupt city officials, exchanging their support and silence for community services. Around the same time another gang consisting predominantly of immigrants from county Kerry, called the Kerryonians, came to the fore. Their target was those of British descent, and they made a name for themselves by disrupting a well known British actor at the time, William Charles Macready, during a performance in Astor Place in 1825.
Jacob_Riis_-_Hells_Kitchen_and_Sebastopol_-_photographThe 1850s onwards was the prime gangland era of New York, and one of the best known gangs during this time (and probably of all of them) was the Dead Rabbits. This is the gang that Martin Scorsese’s ‘Gangs of New York’ film is loosely based on. They were the most efficient and most organised of all, to the point where they even worn a uniform of a red stripe on their pantaloons. They had stark rivalries with many other gangs that regularly ended in riots and hugr brawls on the streets. Over subsequent decades various other gangs came and went, were absorbed by larger gangs, or just dwindled away as they were thrown in jail or murdered.The most violent gang of all however didn’t come along until the 1960s (yes, gang culture persisted for over 100 years in New York!). The Westies never had more than 20 members, but between them managed to commit somewhere between 60 and 100 murders from 1968 to 1986. This dynastic gang went through several leaders and plenty of bloody conflicts with other gangs. They were eventually stamped out when the NYPD began a crackdown on crime in the city in the 1980s, with many of them arrested. Claims are regularly made that the gang still exists in a lesser form.
Hell’s Kitchen Today
Hell’s Kitchen is a shadow of its former self today, although the name still persists in most New Yorker’s minds. While transport maps and other official sources refer to it as Clinton or West Midtown, most locals – particularly from older generations – will call it Hell’s Kitchen. From the 1970s onwards the first hints of gentrification began to creep into the area. The worst tenements were demolished and rebuilt anew, the streets were renamed and slowly but surely the area became more prosperous and more like the rest of New York – although it still has a little bit of a gritty reputation compared to other areas of Manhattan.
Nowadays, the area has ethnic restaurants aplenty (appropriate given the name) and with its proximity to Broadway, is the home of many aspiring actors and creative talents. Just some of the big names who once called Hell’s Kitchen their home include Sylvester Stallone, Alicia Keys, Madonna, James Dean, Jerry Seinfeld and Bob Hope. The Actors Studio on 44th Street is also a big draw for those chasing dreams of fame and fortune. During the attacks of September 11th 2001, the fire station of the Hell’s Kitchen area (Engine 54, Ladder 4, Battalion 9 at 48th Street and 8th Avenue) suffered the greatest loss, with 15 firefighters dying during its 9,685 runs. Memorials adorn the walls of the area now. If you’re visiting New York and have a particular interest in Irish American history – or ethnic food – then it’s well worth an afternoon’s stroll.
Irish Americans in Modern New York
Irish Americans are still a very prominent ethnic community in New York. From the latter half of the 20th century right up until the present day, the Irish American community have made names for themselves as members of the police force and fire departments of New York. Saint Patrick’s day in the city is an even bigger event than it is in Ireland, with famous landmarks like the Empire State Building lighting up green for the day and a huge parade shutting down 5th Avenue for the day. They have managed to shake off their bad reputation too, and are now fully respected as one of the many diverse cultures and as part of the unique history that the city of New York has. During the various ups and downs in the economic and political arenas in Ireland over the last few decades, immigrants have continued to make their way across the Atlantic and have continued to be welcomed into the city.
The reason we built this Nation the way we did was to insure our own citizens would never have to live that way and go through the things that those poor people have to go through.
The reason we built this Nation the way we did was to insure our own citizens would never have to live that way and go through the things that those poor people have to go through.
The bottom line is still. We allow immigrants. Legal immigrants. If they cannot come here legally then we do not want them! No criminals.
A sentence is a set of words that is complete in itself, typically containing a subject and predicate, conveying a statement, question, exclamation, or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
The bottom line is still. We allow immigrants. Legal immigrants. If they cannot come here legally then we do not want them! No criminals.
A sentence is a set of words that is complete in itself, typically containing a subject and predicate, conveying a statement, question, exclamation, or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
I guess I am just another victim of our poor education system here in the US. With the NEA running the show they care more about brainwashing students than teaching.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
The bottom line is still. We allow immigrants. Legal immigrants. If they cannot come here legally then we do not want them! No criminals.
A sentence is a set of words that is complete in itself, typically containing a subject and predicate, conveying a statement, question, exclamation, or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
I guess I am just another victim of our poor education system here in the US. With the NEA running the show they care more about brainwashing students than teaching.
My guess is you are just another person who did not take advantage of the free education that was provided to you and that your narrow-minded thinking obstructed your ability to learn the material that was presented to you.
What free education? There is nothing free in life. My parents paid property taxes when I was a child. If it was free, they would not have had to pay taxes. I paid taxes when my children went to school. I at least was able to pay for my children to go to a private school and get them out of the public school where the NEA has ran the education into the ground.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
What free education? There is nothing free in life. My parents paid property taxes when I was a child. If it was free, they would not have had to pay taxes. I paid taxes when my children went to school. I at least was able to pay for my children to go to a private school and get them out of the public school where the NEA has ran the education into the ground.
Please provide factual data about how private schools do more for underserved populations than public schools. The results must come from scholar peer-reviewed journal with a bevy of research methods that support your claims.
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
The public education system in the USA is horrible. what a failure it has become. The union creates lazy teachers who do not care about students. It cares about political agendas.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
The public education system in the USA is horrible. what a failure it has become. The union creates lazy teachers who do not care about students. It cares about political agendas.
Alright, I'll spell it out this way.
Opinion
Quote:
a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
What you stated currently has no objective reality unless you back up your claim with objective research about your opinions on the K-12 public education system.
We all have our own interpretations of education in the USA. There are many people who share your beliefs. There are others who have used the system to raise to great heights because we understood it is more about our attitudes rather than the system.
We understood that public education, while flawed, offers many great opportunities to those who choose to seize them. We also understand that gives us a monumental competitive advantage over whiners who place the blame on the system instead of taking advantage of one's opportunities.
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
The public education system in the USA is horrible. what a failure it has become. The union creates lazy teachers who do not care about students. It cares about political agendas.
Now, you are resorting to spewing lies. There are states that don't even have unions. I worked in one of them. And to say we don't care about our students is a despicable utterance.
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
The public education system in the USA is horrible. what a failure it has become. The union creates lazy teachers who do not care about students. It cares about political agendas.
Alright, I'll spell it out this way.
Opinion
Quote:
a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
What you stated currently has no objective reality unless you back up your claim with objective research about your opinions on the K-12 public education system.
NEA does little to nothing involving national State standards, textbook publishers, or pretty much anything that involves student curriculum.
My ethos, as an educator and a union member, says more than your right-wing talking points that come from opinion TV shows, right-wing radio shows, or the carnival of stupid contained in email chain letters.
I deal in facts. You deal in third hand conjecture from Bullcrap Mountain scaled by Rupert Murdoch.
The public education system in the USA is horrible. what a failure it has become. The union creates lazy teachers who do not care about students. It cares about political agendas.
Now, you are resorting to spewing lies. There are states that don't even have unions. I worked in one of them. And to say we don't care about our students is a despicable utterance.
I did not set out to write about how poor public education has become. I simply stated that Americans want immigration. Legal immigration. We do not want illegal immigrants. The word illegal means criminals and we do not want more criminals in the country.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
I applaud a father who is trying to provide his children w/better opportunities.
That was a theme in our country for a long, long time. People ventured here from overseas despite not speaking the language, having a job, or a place to live.
It's a brave move where desperate people are in search of better opportunities.
Now, we have have descendants of those brave pioneers hating on others who are trying to do the same things their ancestors did for them.
Hypocritical at best. Hateful is much more likely of a moniker.
The bottom line is still. We allow immigrants. Legal immigrants. If they cannot come here legally then we do not want them! No criminals.
A sentence is a set of words that is complete in itself, typically containing a subject and predicate, conveying a statement, question, exclamation, or command, and consisting of a main clause and sometimes one or more subordinate clauses.
I applaud a father who is trying to provide his children w/better opportunities.
That was a theme in our country for a long, long time. People ventured here from overseas despite not speaking the language, having a job, or a place to live.
It's a brave move where desperate people are in search of better opportunities.
Now, we have have descendants of those brave pioneers hating on others who are trying to do the same things their ancestors did for them.
Hypocritical at best. Hateful is much more likely of a moniker.
No one is stopping him from applying legally for citizenship. If he does it legally then yes I will applaud him for doing what is best for his child. Doing a criminal act should never be applauded. It is wrong. Plain and simple.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
The immigration laws are absurd. There are also laws that address asylum.
This will be my last post tonight on this subject, but I have never understood why people like you and Vambo carry so much hate in your hearts for people you have never met.