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But you close your eyes to subversion.

Wonder why this caravan just started this close to the elections? People who say they won't be stooped until they get into the USA and flying the flag of the country they are fleeing from.

My guess is Trump paid for it.

Follow the money and you will have your answer.

Roughly $233G of alleged meth seized by Customs and Border Protection officers, agency says

https://www.foxnews.com/us/roughly-233g-...ers-agency-says

More than a dozen packages containing roughly $233,000 worth of alleged methamphetamine were uncovered by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers, the agency announced Friday.

Nearly 17 pounds of the suspected drug were seized from a vehicle Monday at the Juarez-Lincoln International Bridge, a news release from the agency said.

A CBP officer working at the bridge sent a 2016 Dodge Attitude and its 37-year-old male driver, who is a Mexican citizen, to undergo “a secondary examination,” the news release said.

“Following a canine and non-intrusive imaging system inspection," CBP officers discovered a total of 13 packages containing nearly 17 pounds of alleged methamphetamine in the vehicle, the news release said. “The narcotics have an estimated street value of $233,000.”

Both the alleged drugs and the vehicle were taken by CBP officers and the driver was arrested, the agency said.

The seizure was praised by Port Director Albert Flores, Laredo Port of Entry.

“Our officers continue to maintain their vigilance amid the inclement weather and utilized their inspections experience, canines and technology to intercept a significant load of methamphetamine,” Flores said.

Border Patrol arrests DACA recipient accused of smuggling over $34G worth of meth

https://www.foxnews.com/us/border-patrol...g-worth-of-meth


A Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipient was arrested in California near the Mexico border Tuesday morning and accused of smuggling over $34,000 worth of meth into the U.S., officials said.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said the 22-year-old man, who is originally from Mexico, approached the El Centro Sector checkpoint on Highway 86 at approximately 11:20 a.m. in a grey Kia Optima.

Agents called for a secondary inspection of his vehicle, during which a canine team alerted to something suspicious in the trunk, investigators said.

Agents recovered 14 vacuum-sealed packages, weighing over 17 pounds in all, that tested positive for methamphetamine.

The value of the drugs was estimated around $34,284.

“Every drug seizure our agents make is an important step forward to secure our streets from dangerous narcotics and dangerous people,” said Chief Patrol Agent Gloria I. Chavez. “I commend our agents for the hard work and dedication in keeping our communities safe.”

The agency did not released the suspect’s name to Fox News citing privacy laws.

Agents from this sector seized over $4.3 million worth of methamphetamine in the last fiscal year, the CBP said.

Why because it is unchristian to want laws obeyed? Got it.

So since laws are not important to you then let's fire all the police just in your city because you don't need laws enforced right? While we are at it since you believe in open borders why don't we force all homes in your city to have no locks on the doors and windows. After all anyone who wants to come in should be able to come in right?

Now in my city we will have police who enforce the laws and houses that provide at least some security and a somewhat safe place to sleep at night. When you come to our city we know who you are because you have legal ID and if your a bad person we send you away. If your safe AND we have a place for you to work and be useful or a spouse who is then we let you stay.

I know the city everyone wants to live in is mine because they keep immigrating there. If you want something precious then you have to protect it and keep it precious. My country is precious to me. I intend to keep it that way.

Man arrested in Virginia, accused of multiple murders, is DACA recipient, source says

https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-arrested-...ent-source-says

An illegal immigrant from Mexico, accused of killing one person and injuring two others aboard a fishing vessel over the weekend, was reportedly allowed to stay in the U.S. as a DACA recipient.

Fox News has exclusively learned that Franklin Freddy Meave Vazquez, 27, was an illegal alien in the U.S. until he was granted deferred action under the DACA program on Nov. 30, 2013. The program is aimed at children brought to the country illegally by their parents.

Vazquez’s legal status was set to expire on Nov. 29, 2015. He applied for renewal but his request was denied on August 16, 2016 – almost a year after his DACA status had already expired. Documents say his request was denied for abandonment, meaning he may have failed to respond to an information request or never showed up for a required appearance.

While in the U.S., Vazquez was arrested in March, accused of abduction by force, intimidation or deception -- but he was released on $20,000 bond - despite objections by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Prosecutors said in a charging document the fishing vessel, the Captain Billy Haver, was sailing some 55 miles off Nantucket with seven crew members aboard when Vazquez assaulted one crew member with a hammer in one hand and a knife in the other.

Two of the wounded crew members were taken aboard a nearby cruise ship that responded to the captain’s distress call, and one was pronounced dead by the ship’s doctor.

Vazquez was charged with one count of murder and one count of attempted murder. He appeared in court on Wednesday where he was ordered to be held without bail.

Vazquez's federal public defender requested a probable cause hearing, which was tentatively scheduled for next week.

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Illegal immigrant charged with murder after knife, hammer attack on fishing vessel off Massachusetts

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immig...f-massachusetts

An illegal immigrant from Mexico was charged with murder after one person was killed and two others were injured in a Sunday attack aboard a fishing vessel sailing off Massachusetts, officials said Monday.

The U.S. Attorney's Office said Franklin Freddy Meave Vazquez, 27, was charged Monday in federal court in Boston with one count of murder and one count of attempted murder within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States for the incident.

Prosecutors said in a charging document the fishing vessel, the Captain Billy Haver, was sailing approximately 55 miles off the island of Nantucket with seven crew members aboard when Vazquez assaulted one crew member with a hammer in one hand and a knife in the other.

That crew member reported seeing another man lying on the ship's deck, bleeding, and the 27-year-old then allegedly struck a third crew member.

"It is further alleged that Vazquez then climbed up the mast of the ship as the others onboard tried to capture him," the U.S. Attorney's Office said.

The ship's captain placed a distress call reporting the attack, and a German cruise ship, the Mein Schiff 6, responded. Two of the wounded crew members were taken aboard the cruise ship, and one was pronounced dead by the ship’s doctor.

People who were on the cruise ship said the captain announced they had to go help a fishing trawler that had an incident overboard.

"They just let us know we had to rescue two people," Fiona Peters told Boston 25 News. I was sitting in a bar having coffee and reading a newspaper. And then I looked outside and saw that."

The Captain Billy Haver is an 82-foot fishing vessel out of Virgina.

The Coast Guard joined the investigation into the attack, Boston 25 reported.

Vazquez, who was in the U.S. illegally after previously being deported, was arrested in Newport News, Va. in March for abduction by force, intimidation or deception -- but he was released on bond, according to the U.S Attorney's Office.

The 27-year-old is scheduled to appear in federal court on Tuesday, and faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and $500,000 in fines if convicted of the murder. He also will be subject to deportation after serving any potential sentence.

Second migrant caravan: New group rushes to join ranks, deportees vow return to America

https://www.foxnews.com/world/second-mig...turn-to-america


As the massive migrant caravan pushes toward the southern U.S. border, a second group of about 1,000 people from Honduras is rushing to join the main group -- which reportedly has swelled its ranks with several people who've already been deported.

The caravan, which has around 5,000 to 7,000 members, was on the move again Monday morning, departing the southern Mexico city of Tapachula. The smaller group trailing it entered Guatemala from Honduras late Sunday, according to the Associated Press.

“They catch you, and you try to get back,” said Imner Anthony Fuentes, a 29-year-old who reportedly was deported for the sixth time from the U.S. five months ago. He has a son and a U.S. citizen girlfriend living in Birmingham, Ala., according to the Washington Post.

Another of the lead caravan's members who had previously live in the U.S., 36-year-old Job Reyes told the Washington Post he's going back because America is “a country where I can live my life, unlike Guatemala.”

Reyes said he grew up in Los Angeles and returned to Guatemala 14 years ago after his visa expired. But now, with the caravan hoping to get across the U.S. border – a move President Trump has threatened to block with the military – Reyes saw an opportunity.

“When I heard about the caravan, I knew it was my chance,” he told the newspaper, noting his cousin and uncle still live in California and that he called them to let him know he was coming.


thers who had previously been deported from the U.S. and are part of the caravan told the Washington Post that family and work are driving factors in them making the journey back to America.

“We are workers. What are we supposed to do in Honduras if there’s no work?” said Evin Mata, a 21-year-old construction worker who was deported three months ago from Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

Juan Jimenez, a 32-year-old Honduran who had been deported six months ago from Phoenix, said he was going to see his 6-year-old son who is still living in the U.S.

The migrant caravan, which started out more than a week ago with less than 200 participants, has drawn additional people along the way and swelled again Sunday after many migrants found ways to cross from Guatemala into southern Mexico after police blocked the official crossing point.

Mexican President-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador suggested Sunday the U.S., Canada and Mexico could work out a joint plan for funding development in the poor areas of Central America and southern Mexico.

"In this way we confront the phenomenon of migration, because he who leaves his town does not leave for pleasure but out of necessity," said Lopez Obrador, who takes office Dec. 1.

In interviews along the journey, migrants have said they are fleeing widespread violence, poverty and corruption in Honduras.

Officials in Mexico trying to help some of the caravan have been met with skepticism amid fears from its members that they could be deported.

Civil defense officials for Mexico's southern state of Chiapas said they had offered to take the migrants by bus to a shelter set up by immigration officials about 5 miles outside Tapachula, but the migrants refused, fearing that once they boarded the buses they would be sent back to Honduras, according to the Associated Press.

Ulises Garcia, a Red Cross official, said some migrants with injuries from their trek refused to be taken to clinics or hospitals because they didn't want to leave the caravan.

Go Team!

Just wondering, CHS... do you even read these posted rerun articles any more?

I stopped months ago. Nothin' new to see from FOX.

Ever.

Yeah, some of them. They're pretty heartbreaking. Last one said that one guy who was deported is trekking back to be with his 6 yo son in Alabama. There was another about another recently deported construction worker from South Florida who was looking for work. I remember a month or so ago someone posting a topic how South Florida is paying a beaucoup of bucks for construction workers.

Shame hey don't come through LEGALLY and then they could stay. Why do they keep getting deported?

j/c


Will the Marching Mob make it in time to cast their votes for the Mid terms? Should we hold the polls open longer?

Will the Democrats cast their votes as absentee if they don't make it? They've already forged plenty of pre-signed ballots.

Will Trump and the U.S. military be accused of voter intimidation if they go all Gandalf on they azzez and tell them "You shall not pass!"

I'm going to predict NOW that there will be some sort of comparisons to Kent State if they reach the border.

This caravan couldn't come at a worse time for Democrats. Even if it's 7,000 people that end up reaching the border, it makes for great propaganda videos.


The whole, "I don't like Trump but at least he's willing to enforce our borders."



This is an issue I have all the time. Never, ever, do I blame anyone for coming here. Never do i demonize them either. I know many undocumented immigrants. How can I blame someone for wanting to make their life better in this way? Hindered, simply, by where they were born.

But, that doesn't change the fact that as a sovereign country, we should have the right to enforce our borders however we choose. I'm not a Trump supporter. I recently left the Republican Party because they follow in lock step with him, and I do not support his values. I'd never vote for the man. I despise the man. I think he's a bully and a racist. I think he's a sexist and a bad person. He is full of himself and makes outlandish accusations and statements that are often completely untrue. Having him as our President is downright embarrassing.

But I have always liked the idea of a border wall to strengthen our border (one that our Republican Executive and Legislative Branches have not been able to get started).

I also believe in amnesty for those that are here, as long as they meet a reasonable set of qualifications/steps. The idea that we might deport some massive amount of people is ridiculous. That's not the image that we want as a country. And there's nothing racist about any of that.

But if these folks keep heading toward the border and keep getting media attention, the blue wave i expected (and have hoped for) this November won't look so blue anymore.

In all truth, I think Trump and the Republicans want this caravan to get here around the mid-terms. They're going to point their fingers at it and say that this is what the democrats want. And they will try to scare American voters to vote for them in November.

Terrible timing from this Caravan. Just downright terrible

Except the Democrats are hoping for some sort of crisis to emerge out of this, even if someone gets shot and/or killed so they can make it political. The Democrats know full well some level of blood shed is the only way they can come out on top of this.

That’s not true, but let’s say it is:

What does it say about your side that people are confident you guys are likely to shoot them?

Think about that. You guys always talk about violence from the left, but when it comes to mas murders, bombings, and hate violence, your side seems to hold a monopoly on it.

What does that say about your side sending them there to get shot? The Dems will get them all fired up to invade the US by rushing the boarder as they did in Mexico...Think about that. You guys always talk about violence but when it comes to mas murders, bombings, and hate violence, your side seems to hold a monopoly on it.

My side is sending a caravan to the border?

Why are you always making up narratives that don’t exist? Lemme guess, soros is funding the caravan, and Hillary deleted the emails proving as much, right?

I thought rocky was suspended, but apparently he has a ghost account under the name Vambo.

Its like an abusive boyfriend telling his gf "I wouldn't hit you if you didn't make me mad, so it's your fault"

We meddle in Guatemala and Honduras, then pretend it's not our fault when people flee these disasters we created. It's a very ignorant view of the world, one in which Trump is more than happy to exploit to anyone willing to eat the red meat.

So, the issues in Guatemala and Honduras are Trumps fault?

I was not aware of that.

Agreed. Democrats are piss poor at politics. Very rarely do they make legislative suggestions. It's kind of infuriating, how they wish to play between the law.

Gage didn’t say that at all. Man dude stop it.

I’ve said the same thing about the Middle East before and got attacked by the mob.

Trump, Obama, Bushes, Clintons and so on and so forth. None of the problems Guatemala and Honduras faces are independent of each other.

Here's what he said:

Trump willing to exploit the situation isn't the same as Trump is responsible for the decades of stuff going on down there.

not even close.

So, the issues have been on going for years, decades, even more?

But, somehow, it's now Trumps fault?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/14/the-united-states-has-a-lot-riding-on-the-honduras-election/

Here's an article from FP about the 2017 elections from an American viewpoint.

The caravan is not getting enough fear bang so now they see ISIS TERRORIST in the southern invasion boogeyman. smdh

Counterterrorism official contradicts Trump: No sign ISIS or 'Sunni terrorist groups' are in caravan

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/22/politics/caravan-terrorism-trump/index.html

The GOP, always gotta fear monger. its the only reason they ever win anything.

CNN...Communist News Network

not only is it not funny....its not funny.

i can totally see you laughing at your own jokes at a party.

What swish said. Reagan did alot of damage in Guatemala. Clinton while Sec State did alot of damage after the Honduras Coup.

Our obligation should be to help fix the problem and recognize our role. Instead we pass the buck. My use of Trump's name here is that he is also complicit in pandering to his base while conveniently leaving out our involvement in what is a full blown refugee crisis. I don't blame him for the situation but I do blame him for preferring to turn these refugees into boogeymen instead of realizing our culpability.

Before and during the coup

True that...

Do you think all 7000 of those people in the caravan are harmless hard working people that should be let in this country and not be vetted?

You don't believe any of them could be terrorist or have criminal background?

Why should I care about them being properly vetted when you didn’t even probably vett the president you voted for?

People like you constantly seem to have stricter standards for struggling families more than you do elected officials. It’s beyond ass backwards.