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Why don't we just run around, finish the job and just "pants" these kids?  They'll probably stop it after awhile. 
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isnt thier more important items Atalnta needs to consintrate on other than baggy pants, like crime, homeless people, jobs...ect.
I guess it depends on who you ask. Some are far more concerned with "what they find mildly offensive" than matters of actual substance,importance,safety and humanity.
It's all the rage,haven't you heard?
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isnt thier more important items Atalnta needs to consintrate on other than baggy pants, like crime, homeless people, jobs...ect.
I guess it depends on who you ask. Some are far more concerned with "what they find mildly offensive" than matters of actual substance,importance,safety and humanity.
It's all the rage,haven't you heard?
This is such a lame argument... so as long as there is crime and poverty in urban areas the politicians shouldn't discuss or legislate on anything else?
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i don't think that it is right for a state to legislate a dress code and make violations punishable by fines
if they didn't, nudist camps would be outa business....
can you imagine how some people would exercise their "rights" if we had no law on nudity? lines must be drawn at some point on any issue.
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I have my teenage nephew living with me now and he would really love to wear his cloths like this but he knows his uncle will break his butt if he tries! But as you said, Atlanta needs to worry about crime, education..etc before passing what is just a dress code. You can eliminate 75 percent of this if the schools implement a dress code. And in 3 years, the fad will be over!
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You can eliminate 75 percent of this if the schools implement a dress code. And in 3 years, the fad will be over!
that's a good idea. if we had more parents like your nephews uncle, that would take care of the other 25%.
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There is a difference in the top of your boxers showing and this:
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i don't think that it is right for a state to legislate a dress code and make violations punishable by fines
??if they didn't, nudist camps would be outa business....?? [What does this mean]
can you imagine how some people would exercise their "rights" if we had no law on nudity? lines must be drawn at some point on any issue.
First off, Nudist camps still exist, and in many states going topless in public isn't against the law--so why aren't women running around without tops on.
Secondly, this is legislating a dress code trying to sell it of as a decency issue, while I can see how full frontal nudity would prompt a decency issue.
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This is such a lame argument... so as long as there is crime and poverty in urban areas the politicians shouldn't discuss or legislate on anything else?
I'd say most people put their efforts,work and legal ventures forth in order of importance and priority. I know that's how I try to conduct my life.
So yes,they can legislate whatever they "choose". That's within everyones right IMO
But the fact that legislation over "this issue" is being pushed by "some" with so many other important issues that need addressed,speaks volumes about those who put this issue so highly on their priority list.
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??if they didn't, nudist camps would be outa business....?? [What does this mean]
it means that if not for laws against nudity, some people could and would walk around nude in public. it may not bother some people, but it's not something i would want my mom or grandmother exposed to.
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So how long is this fad supposed to last? It's been going on for almost 10 years now? I'd say that's more like a fashion statement than a fad.
It just gets a bit on the disgusting side when you are trying to run a food establishment and folks come in with their pants below the belt.
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if they didn't, nudist camps would be outa business....
can you imagine how some people would exercise their "rights" if we had no law on nudity? lines must be drawn at some point on any issue.
Vt. town to drop nudity ban as weather chills
Historically clothing optional community banned practice last month
BRATTLEBORO, Vt. - Vermont’s clothing-optional capital is stripping off its temporary ban on public nudity.
A month after passing the temporary ban, the Brattleboro Selectboard voted 3-2 on Tuesday to reject a proposed ordinance that would have made it permanent. When the emergency temporary ordinance expires next month, public nudity will be legal.
It’s all about tolerance, one board member said.
“We in this country are going down a slippery slope these days,” said Dora Bouboulis, noting a national newspaper recently published an article about the emergency ordinance under the headline “Tolerant town gets intolerant.”
She said it wasn’t up to the town to restrict anyone’s right to dress or undress.
Before the vote, residents weighed in on both sides of the debate.
Michael Gauthier gave the Selectboard a petition with signatures of 967 people who support a nudity ban.
“What is the point, other than shock and awe, that the nudists are trying to make?” he asked.
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But the fact that legislation over "this issue" is being pushed by "some" with so many other important issues that need addressed,speaks volumes about those who put this issue so highly on their priority list.
How do you know those issues haven't been addressed? Perhaps they have already passed the legislation on school funding, taxes, crime, etc.... Those issues aren't going away... by your logic. If crime is your most important thing, then in session 1 you talk about stopping crime... and you pass legislation, then that night somebody gets shot... so you have to keep talking about crime... the next night somebody gets raped so you keep talking about crime... when do you get to issue 2?
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In Pit's world, they may never of had time to get to outlawing dog-fighting.
I guess if you could by any stretch of the imagination equate animal cruelty and abuse to wearing baggy pants you might have a point. But since you can't,you don't.
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in many states going topless in public isn't against the law--so why aren't women running around without tops on.
1.Because women have some brains and common decency.
2. Because women have better fashion sense.
3. Because women are not some wanna be "gangsta" thugs trying to make some sort of STUPID statement.
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I was friends with a police chief around here, and he said that it must have been a cop who came up with the idea for the baggy pants. He said he's been able to run down more criminals because their pants are sagging so low, they either trip over them or they have to keep slowing down to pick them up.
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Well DC,you have a very vallid point IF you think they have legislation that's.............. tough enough on crime addresses illegals taken the necassary steps in education and it's funding etc........ (God knows there's one helluva list that should come before baggy pants) So if you believe that one of the most important and critical issues in Atlanta that have "not been properly legislated" is "baggy pants",it must be one damned fine city to live in!
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There is a difference in the top of your boxers showing and this:
If your going to wear your pants like that, why bother even wearing them. 
I for one, have to see every damn kids boxers when I'm at school, show some decency for yourself, not dress like a pig everyday. 
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Well DC,you have a very vallid point IF you think they have legislation that's..............
tough enough on crime
addresses illegals
taken the necassary steps in education and it's funding
etc........
(God knows there's one helluva list that should come before baggy pants)
So if you believe that one of the most important and critical issues in Atlanta that have "not been properly legislated" is "baggy pants",it must be one damned fine city to live in!
Nice thinking. However, the problem is: Atlanta IS tough on crime. (but heaven forbid they put people in jail - it gets "criminal rights groups worked up.) Illegals are just that - ILLEGAL, (do they act on it? I don't know, but the laws are there) And, education IS funded. Now, every school wants MORE money, I understand that - no school, if asked, has enough to educate kids. they always need more.
But, you see, those things are ALREADY in place. We can't help it if the laws aren't followed, the laws are there.
As for this new one - about showing boxers and bras..........if that's what they want, then so be it. Doesn't affect me. (I say that simply for the people that feel that way about other laws that don't affect them). 
By the way, this is not directed at you specifically - it's more of a general reply.
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I guess if you could by any stretch of the imagination equate animal cruelty and abuse to wearing baggy pants you might have a point. But since you can't,you don't.
For some reason... analogies just never work on this MB...
You don't have to equate dog fighting with baggy pants.... but excl's logic is pretty much right on... where does animal cruelty fall on the big list of things? Between murder and rape? Between poverty and education?.... No, it would be pretty far down there on most peoples list... above baggy pants, probably... but still way down there on the list of the most important things a city government has to worry about... therefore, if the city government always had better things to do, animal cruelty might not be gotten to this session....
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This response is towards no one in particular, but if you think that laws against how we dress are a good idea--then you are what is wrong with this country---welcome to the land of freedom--where you have to dress like we tell you. Give me a break---I understand saggy pants look stupid--but who are you to judge how others look? Other folks may think that the way YOU dress is stupid--should your dress style be made illegal? Its a ridiculous law propose by moronic people. America has become so full of laws licensing and regulating; that this is no longer the land of the free. This is the land of self-righteous ignoramouses making good on the idea that they know what is best for the rest of us. I don't vote---so I'm not guilty of any of this. I sit back--live life as I see fit and watch the rest of you pass laws that are stupid and out of touch with any sense of freedom upon which the country was founded. And guess what--it will continue to get worse. Mainly because every single politician is a piece of self-serving garbage. No one cares about anything but their own pocketbook and the power that they can maintain by serving the ridiculous majority in this country that want to secure as much power for itself that it possibly can. I hate politics, and any authority that tells me what I can and can't do. I believe in simple laws that forbid murder, rape, and thievery. I can't stand the regulation in this country---I often don't abide by them--because I'm an American. I hate insurance companies, credit card companies, banks, government, all of these BS institutions that let the rich get richer and keep the other classes in there place. At the beginning Americans stood up for what they believed in---then they agreed to a small government---then they compromised more and more until we have gotten to where we are today. Yeah, so thats my soapbox of hatred toward the status quo for today. Ciao. --DERDEN IS DRUNK
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If your going to wear your pants like that, why bother even wearing them.
I for one, have to see every damn kids boxers when I'm at school, show some decency for yourself, not dress like a pig everyday.
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Atleast he had the decency to wear boxers.. I'm usually commando when I sag.
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I don't vote---so I'm not guilty of any of this.
Let me use your own words here... then you are what is wrong with this country ....
The reason we fought for our freedom in the beginning because we were being taxed and dictated too and had no representation to present our side.... Now you are being dictated too and you have no representation to present YOUR side because you don't vote... all you do is whine and complain about it.... You are no better than those colonist during the revolution who supported the British.
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You are no better than those colonist during the revolution who supported the British.
So add being a Torrie (hope I spelled it right) to the list of what we all have called Tyler.
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I don't vote---so I'm not guilty of any of this.
Damn Tyler, I don't see where you have a leg to stand on my friend. I understand your feelings of despair at the voters booth but still...I feel it is the duty of every American who is able to get out and vote. It really doesn't take that much time to review the issues and then vote accordingly. At the very least if things don't go the way you want you can at least say that you tried to fix the situation by exercizing your right to vote. ....shakes head...for someone that can come across intelligent at times that is one of the more off the wall things you have said.
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but if you think that laws against how we dress are a good idea--then you are what is wrong with this country---welcome to the land of freedom--where you have to dress like we tell you.
1. that's an exaggeration, it's not defining what you will wear, but what you shouldn't. No different than a "No Shoes, No Shirt" policy.
2. This may be a land of freedom, but there has to be laws or we would have chaos.
If they choose to dress like this, then I don't ant to hear about how "the man" wouldn't hire them because they were black, gangsta, pimpin, name was uncommon, etc, etc. Or how they get stereotyped as "gangsta" or drug dealers.
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2. This may be a land of freedom, but there has to be laws or we would have chaos.
This was more able to be the "land of freedom" he speaks of long ago when communities were self policing.. moral standards were understood and upheld out of respect, not out of legislation.. the common good was considered equal with or above ones personal good... communities were smaller, family units were much stronger... and people behaved because they knew they should...
Which stands in stark contrast to self-first, do whatever feels good in the moment, to heck with what anybody thinks of me or my family culture we have today...
Those who live out on the fringe where Derden lives are actually THE REASON for this type of legislation... I guess they just don't understand it...
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As for this new one - about showing boxers and bras..........if that's what they want, then so be it. Doesn't affect me. (I say that simply for the people that feel that way about other laws that don't affect them).
I know,as you said,that this wasn't directed at me. But the point you're making here,I VERY MUCH agree with!
I feel most communities already have laws that legislate nudity and indecsency. It's not that laws,legislation and such aren't already in place to address such issues.
And DC,you're right that it's "up to Atlanta" if they wish to spend their legislative time refining such ordinances.
But just like some pointed out,there's already legislation on the important topics I covered as well as legislation in place on nudity and indecsency.
I think using legislative time,money and efforts on refining what I percieve to be an "extremly frivilous,nitpick" of an issue,is pointless and kind of stupid.
It's how things end up in legal battles and questions of constitutionality. I seriously doubt if higher courts will consider this legislation as valid in any way. No private parts are being shown. There's no nudity involved,etc.....
So IMO,it's not worth wasting the time,effort and a waste of time to legislate. Yes,it's "their right" to do it. It's also the "rights of others" to show in a higher court just how this law goes beyond the bounds of a city to legislate this. It's an invitation for disaster and law suits against the city over a "nit pick" issue that doesn't truely amount to a hill of beans in the grand scheme of things.
I think the "baggy drawers" thing is a pretty stupid idea for a "fashion statement" myself. But I don't think legislating it is any less stupid.
I just feel there has to be "some point" at which government and legislation must have a stopping point before it infringes upon personal freeedoms and freedom of expression. So do higher courts. And when you get "this nit pickey" you may do far more harm than good to your city by the litigation that may result from it.
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Here's your standard messageboard logic:
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Damn Tyler, I don't see where you have a leg to stand on my friend. I understand your feelings of despair at the voters booth but still...I feel it is the duty of every American who is able to get out and vote. It really doesn't take that much time to review the issues and then vote accordingly.
To this juncture,we do agree Ire.
The "issues" on a ballot give you the right to try to help defeat laws you feel are "imposing upon your freedoms". Which is exactly what Tyler is describing.
But when it comes to "candidates" I can't say I disagree with him so much.
Yes,I do vote. But rarely,if ever,do I see a choice in candidates that fit the description that Tyler has mentioned.
Yes,one party will say "We are for smaller government",but they still pass legislation to further dictate our life and mainly serve their special interest groups.
The other party will say,"We are for the working and common man",but they too just serve their own self interest and dictate our life in "their own way".
So I can relate to his frustration. The sad fact is however,if everyone who shared his view,actually MANY of our views,that government should "stay more out of our life and personal choices" would be more politicly active,I think such a change "might occur".
Unfortunately so many have been "turned off" by having to consistantly choose between "the lesser of two evils" rather than leaders who simply "uphold and enforce the constitution" I feel our political system will continue to revolve around a never ending quagmire that truely only serves the special interests of each respective party,rather than the better good of our citizens and nation overall.
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If A is greater than B ... and A greater than C ... then B MUST equal C.
I think basic message board logic "should be" to use numbers for math equasions and letters to write words with.
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