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I could tell on Dorsey's face he was over it ... and probably had been for a while.
Heck, even when Hue made the feeble attempt to give him a game ball after Baltimore, I sensed Dorsey was a big awkward with it.
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I like Lincoln as well. I think he might keep Williams as well. Maybe boost Williams title to associate head coach over defense. Maybe he is put over the special teams....you'd still have a special teams coach...have him report to Williams. To me, special teams has a more meaningful impact on the defensive side than over the return side.
Riley would still be the head coach making the final in game decisions.
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Riley is Young. 35 years of age. and he seems to have no problem letting Williams continue with the Defense. I like Riley, but where did you get this idea? He has said that he isn't even considering making a move "now", which is what he should say. How do you know that h wouldn't want to bring in his own guy, and/or that Williams would demote back to DC for a new head coach here?
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Riley is Young. 35 years of age. and he seems to have no problem letting Williams continue with the Defense. I like Riley, but where did you get this idea? He has said that he isn't even considering making a move "now", which is what he should say. How do you know that h wouldn't want to bring in his own guy, and/or that Williams would demote back to DC for a new head coach here?
As for him talking he's already sort of backtracking on that statement and leaving room. I think its absurd to think he would answer anything but NO at that time its middle of their season. When the college season is done. Murray goes to Baseball and all is done...His attitude might be different.
Hopefully we will wait. The idea is only cause the guy is the top O in college with most of the NFL taking bits and pieces from it. Might as go for the TOP GUY in this, its not a Chip Kelly thing, this is where it seems the NFL is leaning to so getting the best of the best is not a bad idea and I watched him a lot also he does not have a problem letting a D guy run the D at Oklahoma I most definitely see him letting Williams run the D here.
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that.
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that. Sometimes it is refreshing to see reason.
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My choice is Greg Williams after he leads us to a 9 win season.
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that. He isn't just a spread HC. He actually has a playbook, and his offense is actually of interest to a variety of NFL head coaches. He understands how to put his QB in position to succeed. I think he's a future NFL head coach, and he'll succeed when he gets there.
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Nothing I've seen from his system to the competition he plays indicates to me he is NFL HC material. At least not at this time.
If he ran the system he runs at Oklahoma in the NFL, it would be a disaster.
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If he ran the system he runs at Oklahoma in the NFL, it would be a disaster. What, specifically, makes you think this?
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All you really need to do is watch their games to see it. A one read option system isn't something you can do in the NFL. You'll be eaten alive.
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I’d like a proven NFL OC to come in and keep Williams as asst HC / DC. My main fear is switching from a 4-3 base on D and I hope Dorsey and the new HC will see that too. If we switch to a 3-4 I think I’ll go crazy. The talent we’ve built up on that side needs consistency IMHO; we need an Offensive mind to work to Bakers strengths.
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I don't want the Browns to be the experimental grounds to see if some college coach's system will work.
We need experience, we need someone that has respect throughout the league, we need someone who can take this challenge head on, while understanding what the challenge is.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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All you really need to do is watch their games to see it. A one read option system isn't something you can do in the NFL. You'll be eaten alive. I think you lack an understanding of what his offense is.
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Here are some possible candidates, based on what our reporting has turned up so far.
Mike McCarthy. This assumes the Packers move on from McCarthy at season's end, which is far from a certainty. But if it happens, expect a front office packed with former Packers executives to put McCarthy at the top of its list.
Lincoln Riley. The Oklahoma head coach is on the radar of a lot of NFL teams if he decides he wants to try the NFL. He has been mentioned several times as a potential Jason Garrett replacement in Dallas if the Cowboys decide to make a change. The Mayfield connection makes him an obvious target for the Browns if he's available.
Matt Campbell. He's the head coach at Iowa State and is said to be well-regarded by Dorsey.
Eric Bieniemy. Succeeded Matt Nagy as Chiefs offensive coordinator this year. May be too inexperienced at this point, but teams really like to hire Andy Reid guys.
Jim Harbaugh. NFL people still think the Michigan coach will want another crack at the pros. He'll be a hot candidate in several places when/if that happens.
Urban Meyer. Hey, he's big in Ohio.
Brian Flores. Well-regarded Patriots defensive coach who got some attention on last year's interview circuit. He'd have to come with a strong offensive coordinator and a plan for Mayfield, but those who know him rave about his leadership qualities.
John DeFilippo. Jumped from Eagles QBs coach to Vikings offensive coordinator following Philly's Super Bowl title. He's a former Browns offensive coordinator who's from Youngstown.
Dan Campbell. He was once the Dolphins' interim head coach and remains an intriguing head-coaching prospect for teams. Currently on Sean Payton's staff with the Saints, who may be in the midst of a special season.
Zac Taylor. He's the Rams' quarterbacks coach and, like Bieniemy, may still be too green for an assignment like this. But a lot of teams are going to want to try to get a piece of what Sean McVay is doing out there in L.A.
Dave Toub. The Chiefs' special teams coach always seems to be on these lists, and NFL people believe he'll get a shot eventually. Could it come under former Chiefs GM Dorsey?
George Edwards. The Vikings' defensive coordinator is another guy who gets attention every year but no job offers. His time will come.
Teryl Austin. Bengals defensive coordinator. Ditto what we said for Edwards.
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I don't think hiring Teryl Austin makes sense. We gotta go offense
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What's going to make me sad is that when we pick a new HC, we are probably going to lose Greg Williams...
Urban Meyer won't come, but he'd be a candidate.
Riley won't come but again, he's be a candidate
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Hey, going 7-9 three or four years in a row would get him a parade in Cleveland! 
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Hey, going 7-9 three or four years in a row would get him a parade in Cleveland! Probably, but we deserve MUCH better
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I know, I know. Fisher is probably in the top 5 of most overrated NFL coaches ever. Maybe top 2. 1 maybe?
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I'm sure he's auditioning for the job for the balance of the year. If they win more than they lose and look decent doing it, he should be given consideration.
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j/c:
How soon until we just starting recycling coaches we've already fired?
We've gone through almost as many coaches as QB's... I'd think we'd start over at some point.
Maybe bring back Romeo Crennel?
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His rotting casket would probably coach better than anyone we've put out there this century. Hell, you know he'd run the ball down people's throats!
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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How soon until we just starting recycling coaches we've already fired?
We've gone through almost as many coaches as QB's... I'd think we'd start over at some point.
Maybe bring back Romeo Crennel? if we are bringing back retreads, I rather have Butch
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Is he even allowed to coach anymore? I thought TB had to hire him as an advisor because of the NC settlement stuff? I may be wrong.
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He's coaching in FIU since 2016
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He's coaching in FIU since 2016 And is doing very well.
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All this talk of potential HCs is somewhat interesting. I'm a little more concerned with the staffs they can/will bring. Having a former OC/DC that's good at one side of the ball or the other isn't a bad thing at HC, but it doesn't necessarily correlate with being a good HC as we've witnessed.
I'm kind of intrigued by the characteristics of Flores as an HC, but any chance of actually picking him would be highly contingent on who he tabbed for his assistants (OC in particular.)
The fact that he's another NE guy is a little off-putting, after some of those guys struggles elsewhere, including here.
Without actually being in the interviews, it's hard to really have a favorite.
I have some hesitations with all of them.
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that.
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that. I'm not saying you need a ton of NFL experience... But, no NFL experience is concerning to me. He also won't have a rather noticeable talent advantage every week in the NFL. His offense could work, but we wouldn't be hiring him as the OC. (I'd be amenable to hiring him as an OC, but he's most likely not leaving Oklahoma for that) There's also a different power dynamic in college vs the NFL. Paid v. unpaid players.
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it seems to me like the NFL is going more the college way anyways. A premium on space and matchups, not physicality .. it's like basketball on turf
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Not to mention Nfl coaches seek out Riley to pick his brain
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Its a different era Vers. Riley is attractive because of the offensive trend and he is the King of the trend...Chip Kelly was a totally different system while Riley actually has a play book and there is more of what the NFL is trying to do in his game.
The NFL is already changing in that direction and we would be getting the KING of that offensive change. Also the QB that goes with it as well.
Its stuff already trying to be influxed into the NFL already.
Riley is Young. 35 years of age. and he seems to have no problem letting Williams continue with the Defense.
I don't want just ANY FLAVOR of the month college QB its got to be the perfect FIT/MARRIAGE. Look at what the Chiefs have become?
You can make a list of failures there are a ton of them.
I don't want a college coach - I want Lincoln Riley! Right time right place in the history of NFL Football!
Hue, I wanted here we were the few who did and thought he deserved a 2nd chance...but he started to go downhill and the panic was visible. We still had the youngest team and we now started to lose them I think! Haley, don't know for sure but I think he was a back stabber. jmho
Haslam did the deed but this has Dorsey written all over. He stayed with Hue as long as possible, I think he is the perfect fit with Riley and Williams on Defense.
jmho Several NFL coaches have had discussions with Riley over his offensive schemes...funny how NFL coaches are asking a college coach for advice.
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At least 28 NFL teams asked Sooners coach Lincoln Riley about his offense this year. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college...s-lincoln-riley NFL teams have already come to Riley to discuss the Sooners' creative offense. They came sporadically in previous years. But "28, 29, 30" of the 32 NFL teams wanted to pick Riley's brain this year, Riley told Herbstreit. The trend of the NFL drawing from college systems and adapting to their quarterback's collegiate strengths continues.
Pair Riley's aggressive play-calling with his mastery balance of the run and pass game? Herbstreit thinks Riley could thrive in Dallas.
"If and when the Cowboys ever need a head coach..." Herbstreit said, emphasizing he isn't recommending the team fire Garrett, "it wouldn't surprise me if the Jones group considered him."
Riley's aggressive, unpredictable coaching style would diverge from the system Garrett preaches. Garrett emphasizes not just running first but also implementing schemes that are simple and foundationally sound as possible.
Garrett says he doesn't care if defenses know his team's next move. He believes teams with a top offensive line and enough talent can succeed through predictability.
Riley, in contrast, has drawn NFL attention for offensive innovation.
"Ohio State linebackers were literally guessing whether the Sooners would run or pass," Herbstreit said of Oklahoma's 31-16 win over the Buckeyes in September.
Herbstreit pointed to that win and the Sooners' double overtime loss to Georgia in the College Football Playoff semifinal as two games during which Riley exemplified his ability to confuse defenses through balanced offensive attacks.
"If you can keep a defense guessing," said Herbstreit, who provided color commentary for both games' broadcasts, "you're in complete control of game."
The Sooners largely have been in control of games since Riley arrived in January 2015 to call plays. They rank first nationally in passing efficiency rating (187.7), completion percentage (69.4) and total offense (555.5) across the three-season stretch. They've won 34 of 40 games including 25 of 27 in conference play, twice notching berths to the College Football Playoff.
Only four other first-year coaches in FBS history won at least 12 games in their debut year. And in his first year as head coach, Riley - the youngest FBS coach at 33 years old - helped position quarterback Baker Mayfield to win the Heisman trophy.
A year earlier, with Riley as offensive coordinator, Mayfield and former Sooners wide receiver Dede Westbrook both cracked the five-player national list of Heisman finalists.
The way Herbstreit sees it, Riley's young, talented and has the aggressive offensive mindset to reimagine the game at the NFL level, too. He'll have opportunities - whether it's in Norman to cement himself as a Sooner legend or elsewhere.
"He's young and only going to get better," Herbstreit said. "If he were a stock, you'd be buying Lincoln Riley."
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My choice is Greg Williams after he leads us to a 9 win season. uggh, apart from my smart alec response that the season must be 27 games long, I don't care what they do, they need to win 3 of the final 8. If they can't do better than a 2-5 start any year, and 2-6 through any 8 game stretch, then there isn't any progress. 8 games to go, Win any 3! and I don't care if Dennis Rodman, or Martha Stewart is named coach, Win Any 3! Win 1, you can't win more than 1 at a time, Win 1. (McSushi, McSoreley, McBride, Mcsomebody)
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Guess i dont know football either then tab .. I’d prefer to not hire a college coach ... dudes another in the latest, greatest offensive innovators from the college ranks that will like every single one before him will FAIL ... If we are going to reach onto that well i’d prefer we pick a failure from a school in a conference where the D plays like there sole purpose isn’t just too get the O back on the field as quickly as possible. Regardless of how that is accomplished .... Its like they have a talent threshold for D players ... u know like in that pro hoops league .... not sure if its still around ... where u can’t be taller than 6’5” or sumptin around that height .... well in that conference 3 star recruits and below only .... if your a 4 or 5 star recruit u need not apply ... *L* ... Sorry tab ... college coaches HARDLY EVER PAN OUT ... Is there even 1 in the league today? .... O’Brien .... is he gonna survive the year if they don’t make the playoffs? ... he looked in deep trouble after like week 4 ... to his credit they’ve turned it around ... i’d Hardly call him a success .. crap ... last year he gave us the #4 pick and the #2 pick in rnd 2 hes so good .... ... They are more succesfu than i thought tab ... 
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I keep hearing the name Lincoln Riley. For God's sake why? The system he runs is not an NFL system. It's not like the big 12 is some power conference.
The only possible reason I can see fans promoting Riley is because he coached Baker. Surely to God you're not falling for that. In case you haven't noticed, the NFL has been changing....I brought this up 12 years ago, and it is happening slow but sure. HS players don't play a "pro" concept anymore. Nor do college programs. Deal with change
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