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I have only been waiting since 1964.
Dream big. Hope it happens soon.
I don't know if Baker will be "it". Promising is the word now.
But damn that alone has only taken how many years?
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never thought i'd see a yeats poem quoted on here. brilliant!
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never thought i'd see a yeats poem quoted on here. brilliant!
its pronounced yeast
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I don’t get this bro ... but if it did happen and we got him I’d say The thief MAY HAVE LUCKED OUT AGAIN ... *FINGERS CROSSED FOR LUCK BRO!!!  Like i said ... i don’t get this .. but who knows with how reactionary we’ve become as a society as a whole ... John Harbaugh - C - Ravens According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Ravens haven't ruled out a midseason coaching change. Source: NFL.com
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I don’t get this bro ... but if it did happen and we got him I’d say The thief MAY HAVE LUCKED OUT AGAIN ... *FINGERS CROSSED FOR LUCK BRO!!! Like i said ... i don’t get this .. but who knows with how reactionary we’ve become as a society as a whole ... John Harbaugh - C - Ravens According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Ravens haven't ruled out a midseason coaching change. Source: NFL.com Rap's reporting that he's being told that Dorsey will be handling the HC search. Secretively. Lol. THERE'S HOPE, BUD!!!!!!
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If John Harbaugh becomes available we should definitely pounce and make him an offer he cannot refuse. John isn't the problem in Baltimore, the problem is a serious lack of talent.
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You know my love will Not Fade Away.........
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I love it.... Absolutely love it.
Josh McDaniels would be my top choice. Yes I know, the whole Colts thing. I guarantee that was payback for Deflategate and a set up. If he is willing to interview and come here? Jump on it. He has spent the last decade learning what he did wrong and how to do it right from one of the best. Denver was a long time ago. I think he would come here and wants to come here for one simple reason....
Baker Mayfield. It was made known during the draft that McDaniels and BB loved and wanted Mayfield to groom as heir to the Brady throne. Baker was supposed to be McDaniels star QB. Instead we drafted him and now McDaniels is looking at inheriting massive shoes in New England without a franchise QB. I would say that the Browns opening would be far more attractive. We are the team he grew up cheering for, we have a top notch GM in place and we have the QB he wanted to mold into a franchise guy.
IF he can be had and IF you can get him to come here you jump on it.
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If the Browns hired McDaniels I would become seriously ill.
He is not head coaching material.
I don't give a damn what he has done in NE.
He was a train wreak in Denver.
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I'd be interested in both John Harbaugh and Josh McDaniels. Of the two, I'd rather have Harbaugh.
His brother is an excellent coach too by the way.
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Hiring Josh would test my limits of fandom ... i’m getting old ... always blessed with a good attitude about enjoying each day ... from a very young age .. as i get older ... it pushes more and more to the fore front ... That move may just push me to other things ... would never not be a fan .. just a lot less involved one .. more of a normal fan and not a goofball like the rest of u .. *L* .. On the other hand ... A VERY ATTRACTIVE JOB ... I think Dorsey doing this and having mister and misses thief approve it is 50/50 I think even if the thief does get involved the job may be so attractive we may still get a great candidate and DORSEYS FIRST CHOICE ... I think there is no reason for this ... YET HERE WE ARE .... Its a GREAT JOB ... just like our GM job was last year ... This may be fun and it may END WELL .... Here’s to REALISTIC HOPING BRO as opposed to Josh like thinking ...
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You'll probably get your wish-- that is no Josh McDaniels with the Browns.
I think he takes over in New England after hoodie retires and that's been the unofficial (and often denied) plan for a long time.
Things change though so you never know. I have a feeling that Dorsey is going to pick a lesser-known coach anyway.
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Alphabetically ... *LOL* ... James - HECK NO .. John - WOOOOHOOOOOO Josh - its been a pleasure ... How’s that for a rating system ...
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Hiring Josh would test my limits of fandom ... i’m getting old ... Can I ask why? (Or, if you've said it and I missed it, point me in the right direction.)
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I can understand McDaniels who I see more as a boom/bust type, if there ever was one for a coach.
What about James/Jim Harbaugh though? He had those 49ers teams playing outstanding football.
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I think McDaniels would be a good get.
He sucked his first go-round but so did Carroll, Bellichek, and Dungy.
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If Dorsey get to do it .. i agree ... i think he goes down his own path ... Wouldn’t shock me if its someone he and/or the packer boys have ties to somewhere along the lines ... thats how PRO’S DO IT ... the king seems to have a high degree of trust in his packer boys ... that comes from working together .. and its a smart way to go .. U KNOW THEM and there is no get to know u period .. no building of trust ... SOMETHING THE THIEF NEVER EVEN SNIFFED much less accomplished with any of his hires .. Maybe toub from kc or someone that either “the kids” from GB or himself worked with in GB at some point ... I’d bet my bottom dollar its someone they have ties too at some point in there careers .. If its simply the “popular” choice like Lincoln Riley or some flavor of the day college dude ... then it means the thief and the misses called it ... i HIGHLY DOUBT it will be the “popular” choice ...
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Good post and I see where you're coming from.
I do think Dorsey and the next head coach need to be on the same page and that's more likely from he has a high degree of trust in.
Like I said in one of these threads, these head coaching hires are so hard for us fans to judge. Take John Harbaugh-- excellent coach. Would it be a good fit with Dorsey? I'm not sure, but they very well might clash. That's not so good.
Or take a young, up and coming coach. It's even harder to pick these out because we're not there for the actual interviews. We don't see their presentation and usually don't even know who will be on their coaching staff. I do think there are more Sean McVays out there though-- it's up to Dorsey to find one of them.
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McDaniels is where he should be.
He is not a leader for an entire team. He proved that in Denver.
For crying out loud he was behind drafting Tebow in the first round.
John Harbough has accomplished a lot in Baltimore. He has proven himself.
His brother is a college coach and should remain one.
This is all about Baker. The hire will be a offensive coach. And he should do what was done in KC with Mahomes. Meaning incorporate what worked for him in college and add on to it.
Payton in NO is another good example of a marriage between HC and quarterback. So the assistant there may be a good guy to look at.
But really I believe Dorsey will go after DeFilippo.
He worked well with Wentz. He was witness to and part of his growth under Pederson. Pederson of course comes from the Reid tree. And Green Bay where he sat behind Farve.
When you connect the dots it makes sense. GB, Reid, QB coach, OC, Pederson, KC. WCO see what Mahomes is doing under Reid.
Baker is suited to play in that offense.
The Head Coach decision will be tied directly to the development of Baker Mayfield.
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The Head Coach decision will be tied directly to the development of Baker Mayfield.
Which has me wondering if Gregg Williams is a real chance to be the Browns coach moving forward. Mayfield is where he is for one single reason. Attitude. He has fire in his belly and gleam in his eye at the prospect of winning. Gregg Williams is exactly the same. I found this interesting. The little tidbits regarding Williams and Mayfield going back and forward with the smack talking, and how quickly that happened. https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/...ld/95-610325671I like that kind of relationship, and I think that mutual respect begins with having a matching temperament, tenacity, competitive drive and approach to the game. If the Browns can have success in the second half of the season, I get the feeling Mayfield would happily vouch for Williams as the head coach. With that said, it would certainly depend on who can come in and run the offense.
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If we do well the rest of the way I have no problem with GW staying as HC. WE just need to hire a good OC and leave him alone and let him run the O.
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No chance for Williams.
He would have to win six or better of eight.
And even then I doubt it.
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I wouldnt hire McDaniels myself ... red flag for me last offseason
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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No thanks on keeping GW as HC, no matter how many games he wins. The guy is sleazy.
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Defillipo and Schwartz for the defense
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I would think Eric Bieniemy might be who our GM has in mind. I think Dorsey sees Mayfield in a similar light as he does Mahomes and would want an offense similar to KC's.
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i think everyone would want that offense haha
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I hoenstly think you keep Williams as HC and Kitchens as OC going into next yet.
Williams isn't why we are losing, we are losing becuase of lack of depth and lack of talent. hiring another coach is just going to set us back 2 more years and hinder Mayfields development.
Regardless of record, we should give the job to Williams and let Dorsey and company add more talent to the roster and see what happens next year.
with the current system in place, we are 3 OL, a DL, a S, and a WR away from being pretty darn good, we removed Williams and Kitchen and blow up the O and defensive systems and your looking at another few years before we get a feel for things again.
Jackson needed to go, but all the dysnfunction seems to be gone with Williams, Williams aslo said he has know Dorsey since Dorsey was a player and those 2 seem to get along...there will be no friction between Dorsey and Williams, and Williams has a lot of expereince and is respected by players.
I really think we will be making a mistake not staying rhe course with williams...give him 2 seasons (4 total season for Baker in the same system) good teams are good because they are in the same system with the same coaches and players for long periods of time.
We have to resist the urge to pull the plug, we are soooooo damn close...I really beleive Williams could get the job done with more time.
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I do like the thought of Schwartz for the defense. What do people think of that wide 9 he likes to run? Seems like it would help Garrett get better angles to the Qb but that it also creates holes off-tackle in the run defense.
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Not only will William's not be head coach next year. He will not be here at all.
Actually I seriously doubt any of this coaching staff remains.
Maybe the qb coach.
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Does it matter who we hire? He'll be gone w/in 3 years anyway.
People keep thinking firing coaches and GMs is smart and they wet themselves thinking of the next great guy to lead the Browns. Then, the cycle starts again.
I'm so freaking tired of it.
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Constant turnover is not good.
Other than the infamous Sashi years, the Browns STR haven't really lacked talent across the board except at QB. But people confused a lack of talent with the fact that the Browns kept bringing in new guys with new coaches and new voices and new systems. Then those guys would get rid of good players. The number of good players across the league that used to play for the Browns is pretty interesting.
The cycle has to stop, but it won't unless Haslam removes himself from the equation, and he won't. It's his set up that helps drive the dysfunction we currently just witnessed.
If I were a player I'd never want to come to Cleveland.
I feel bad for guys like Baker. It's almost like he's got no shot as long as Haslam is around. Everything that guy touches turns to crap.
Haslam's favorite word is collaborate. It's his code for playing with his billion dollar toy. I'm sick of the Haslams talking about how much they love Cleveland and how bad they want to win for the fans yet he continues to make the same mistakes over and over again.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Its time for Bruce Arians to come on board the coaching staff as HC and just let Freddie Kitchens stay as OC, Gregg Williams as DC, that's what needs to happen
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I think Arians was kinda lobbying for it too
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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...People keep thinking firing coaches and GMs is smart... Do you have a link? I've never read anyone on any message board or spoke with anyone in person who believes what you said there.
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I think Arians was kinda lobbying for it too He said on the radio pre-game yesterday that the Browns HC job will be THE most sought-after opening in the off-season. He also stated that he has always wanted to coach this team.
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I hadnt heard that ... I wouldnt doubt it
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I think Arians was kinda lobbying for it too He said on the radio pre-game yesterday that the Browns HC job will be THE most sought-after opening in the off-season. He also stated that he has always wanted to coach this team. I'd take that in a heartbeat but I thought he had heart problems.
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I think Arians was kinda lobbying for it too He said on the radio pre-game yesterday that the Browns HC job will be THE most sought-after opening in the off-season. He also stated that he has always wanted to coach this team. I'd take that in a heartbeat but I thought he had heart problems. So did Urban Meyer (and he might again soon)
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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