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That's how I feel about the trash V keeps posting. Sharing a counter pov.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
That's how I feel about the trash V keeps posting. Sharing a counter pov.


Um, well V seems to post mainstream news sources.

Meanwhile you post left extremist videos.

That girl is an idiot.

I guess its a cause for celebration if a socialist idiot gets elected to office?

Because being repped by dummies is ok?

You bag on Trump for being a dummy, and he is.
But this chick is probably dumber.

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I can't believe people voted for this little twit. There you go folks, that the new Dem/ Lib party.


So you take a highly edited video of her misspeaking a handful of times and call her a twit. But somehow Trump is a genius? Dude, people like you are the reason this country suffers. We need to move forward and stop hanging onto old ass politics that don't work. Forest for the trees with cons.


The country would be fine if the Democrats would go to their safe place and leave the country to the grown ups.


Says the guy that voted for the fat twit in the WH that filed 4 chapter 11’s, won’t produce his tax returns, and acts like a 5 year old.


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I can't believe people voted for this little twit. There you go folks, that the new Dem/ Lib party.


So you take a highly edited video of her misspeaking a handful of times and call her a twit. But somehow Trump is a genius? Dude, people like you are the reason this country suffers. We need to move forward and stop hanging onto old ass politics that don't work. Forest for the trees with cons.


The country would be fine if the Democrats would go to their safe place and leave the country to the grown ups.


Says the guy that voted for the fat twit in the WH that filed 4 chapter 11’s, won’t produce his tax returns, and acts like a 5 year old.


All true Spiral but you forgot to mention he is putting America back on her feet. Lower taxes, less Illegals , un fair trade practices on & on. .....Oh and BTW lowered Black unemployment to the lowest in 50 years.....But haters gonna hate.......Say it with me Spiral...Trump in 2020......MAGA

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This Cortez is a complete nut case, doesn't know the laws, civics, or any of her responsibilities. Give free money to everyone!!! yay!!! Her policies are showed to cost roughly $40 trillion dollars, what a loon and a moron. The scariest thought is who the hell voted for her? I want to know now. They should not be allowed to vote ever again.


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This Cortez is a complete nut case, doesn't know the laws, civics, or any of her responsibilities. Give free money to everyone!!!


sounds exactly like Trump, who you support so much. cool it with the fake criticism.


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Yeah, Trump would have his followers calling her names in just a few weeks. I'm sure he would come up with more school yard bully BS and his minions would march along right behind him.


That little girl is a moron.


See, that didn't take long! lmao

It seems when your side elects a moron like Trump it's not a problem. When it comes to the other side? Then you make an issue out of it.


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She fits just about every far left virtue, so I am not surprised at all.

1. Woman
2. Of color
3. Communist/socialist
4. Calls people she doesn’t know racist, sexist and bigoted without any proof.



And she is young? She is the poster child for far leftists.

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I didn't mean to derail this thread, honestly. I'd rather talk about actual candidates.


I really wish Trey Gowdy would consider a run but he has repeatedly skirted the subject.

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Not to mention she is an anti sematic pro palistinian IMO

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The difference is Cortez is a far out there socialist who wants to give everything free to everyone. When people ask her how is she going to pay for any of it, she doesn't have an answer, this girl is a joke.


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The Democrats will self destruct as per usual. They'll either run a candidate nobody can stand like Hillary, because well, she was next in line. I mean it was her turn, right? Basic loser thinking.

See, if they run a guy like Biden who can get some of the independent vote it takes to win a national election, the millennials will throw a temper tantrum and refuse to support him because he's not "liberal and progressive enough".

If the Dems run a pure progressive they will lose the independent votes it will take to win.


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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
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That's how I feel about the trash V keeps posting. Sharing a counter pov.


Um, well V seems to post mainstream news sources.

Meanwhile you post left extremist videos.

That girl is an idiot.

I guess its a cause for celebration if a socialist idiot gets elected to office?

Because being repped by dummies is ok?

You bag on Trump for being a dummy, and he is.
But this chick is probably dumber.


She's smarter than you give her credit for. She's not 100% polished and she misspeaks, but she's a long way from stupid.

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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
This Cortez is a complete nut case, doesn't know the laws, civics, or any of her responsibilities. Give free money to everyone!!! yay!!! Her policies are showed to cost roughly $40 trillion dollars, what a loon and a moron. The scariest thought is who the hell voted for her? I want to know now. They should not be allowed to vote ever again.


Yes the Millennials have to love this lady. The economy is doing so well that a lot of millennials are now able to move out of Moms basement ( well not PDF of course ) but they still only identify with people like Bernie and Cortez. They admit they want to raise taxes and take away our tax cuts . Naturally people that don't pay taxes are all for this. Not all but many.

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The Democrats will self destruct as per usual. They'll either run a candidate nobody can stand like Hillary, because well, she was next in line. I mean it was her turn, right? Basic loser thinking.

See, if they run a guy like Biden who can get some of the independent vote it takes to win a national election, the millennials will throw a temper tantrum and refuse to support him because he's not "liberal and progressive enough".

If the Dems run a pure progressive they will lose the independent votes it will take to win.


Except a Progressive will push healthcare 4 all, while a centrist will sell out to big insurance/pharma again. Healthcare is a major win for dems.

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No, healthcare is a major topic on the democrats platform. Healthcare will be in play no matter who runs for the Dems.

Let me tell you the kind of things I'm talking about......

College tuition.

Moderate Dem.

We should cut college loan interest rates down to the prime mortgage rate for students. College isn't free but making college tuition big business is hurting everyone but banks.

Progressive Democrat.

Free college for everyone!

I could go on but there's a difference in some sound logic and reform verses just going off the deep end by endorsing a candidate the masses can't relate to.

I know, I know. You guys are going to do what you're going to do. Just don't say I didn't warn you.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
No, healthcare is a major topic on the democrats platform. Healthcare will be in play no matter who runs for the Dems.

Let me tell you the kind of things I'm talking about......

College tuition.

Moderate Dem.

We should cut college loan interest rates down to the prime mortgage rate for students. College isn't free but making college tuition big business is hurting everyone but banks.

Progressive Democrat.

Free college for everyone!

I could go on but there's a difference in some sound logic and reform verses just going off the deep end by endorsing a candidate the masses can't relate to.

I know, I know. You guys are going to do what you're going to do. Just don't say I didn't warn you.


Progressives believe that you start at the most left position then negotiate instead of going in with a centrist plan and letting the GOP push that to the right claiming the win. Most don't ever think college will be free, but very low cost or even free community college used to be a norm. They just want that back.

And surprisingly I never considered progressive views until the right swung so far right. I'd be happy with a return to the TRUE middle.

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Well that sounds all fine and dandy but the problem is you aren't going to win any purple states that you need to win elections going around the nation spouting about free college.

Unless it's your position that a candidate says, "Well, I talk about free college but I don't really mean it."

For some reason I don't think that's going to go over very well either. So you're saying a progressive will roll over on college tuition the way you claim a moderate would do on healthcare? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.


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'Tuition Free' has never meant free college. Even if I think college should be free because we would all benefit from having a smarter population, I've never expected it to be totally free. But i see your point.

Seems like the difference is a more granular explanation of the platform. Doesn't matter who wins the primary, the DNC committee sets the platform.

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Well that sounds all fine and dandy but the problem is you aren't going to win any purple states that you need to win elections going around the nation spouting about free college.

Unless it's your position that a candidate says, "Well, I talk about free college but I don't really mean it."

For some reason I don't think that's going to go over very well either. So you're saying a progressive will roll over on college tuition the way you claim a moderate would do on healthcare? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.


Don't you live in a deeply red state that offers free tuition towards state college? tongue

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'Tuition Free' has never meant free college. Even if I think college should be free because we would all benefit from having a smarter population, I've never expected it to be totally free. But i see your point.

Seems like the difference is a more granular explanation of the platform. Doesn't matter who wins the primary, the DNC committee sets the platform.

This is probably better for a day where I have less things to do and more time, but...

It's become obvious in recent years that the current university model is extremely wasteful and inefficient. Some people will still go through that 4+ year drudge but taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill. Not when there's a perfectly reasonable alternative...

Do it online. Hardware is cheap. High speed internet is widespread. Lectures can be viewed on a laptop, work can be assigned and completed, maybe show up for testing a few times a year or whatever is needed to prevent blatant copying/cheating.

There's your free/cheap/tuition free college. All that's left is to work out the details-- that should be easy and I'm sure both sides will get along great.

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'Tuition Free' has never meant free college. Even if I think college should be free because we would all benefit from having a smarter population, I've never expected it to be totally free. But i see your point.

Seems like the difference is a more granular explanation of the platform. Doesn't matter who wins the primary, the DNC committee sets the platform.

This is probably better for a day where I have less things to do and more time, but...

It's become obvious in recent years that the current university model is extremely wasteful and inefficient. Some people will still go through that 4+ year drudge but taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill. Not when there's a perfectly reasonable alternative...

Do it online. Hardware is cheap. High speed internet is widespread. Lectures can be viewed on a laptop, work can be assigned and completed, maybe show up for testing a few times a year or whatever is needed to prevent blatant copying/cheating.

There's your free/cheap/tuition free college. All that's left is to work out the details-- that should be easy and I'm sure both sides will get along great.


College doesn't have to be expensive. 90% of it is a teacher and text books. The problem is the sheer amount of unneeded classes they force you to take to complete your degree. Most 4 year degrees could be finished in 2 years if you cut out the unneeded classes that have zero to do with your field of study.

Then you just eliminate the degree paths that have no useful ability to get you a job. I mean if they want to offer that at a private college that is fine. Let the student pay for that crap if they want to. However, for those at public university where we want college to be free being more efficient and streamlined towards a working degree is far better in my humble opinion.

In other words let degrees that are useful be free and let frivolous degrees be paid for by those who have the time to be frivolous.


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Well that sounds all fine and dandy but the problem is you aren't going to win any purple states that you need to win elections going around the nation spouting about free college.

Unless it's your position that a candidate says, "Well, I talk about free college but I don't really mean it."

For some reason I don't think that's going to go over very well either. So you're saying a progressive will roll over on college tuition the way you claim a moderate would do on healthcare? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.


Don't you live in a deeply red state that offers free tuition towards state college? tongue


Two years at a community college if you meet certain criteria. Certain limitations and requirements exist. You don't get a free ride for four years at some "spa like resort college".


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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's campaign shoes to join museum exhibition

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/alexan...ouWKveQIzckEWtA

Guess you doubters should walk a mile in her shoes. wink

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's campaign shoes to join museum exhibition

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/alexan...ouWKveQIzckEWtA

Guess you doubters should walk a mile in her shoes. wink



While I appreciate a museum dedicated to great woman of history, this chick is hardly one of those. She is an idiot who scammed herself into office because NY is....well... the east coast version of Cali. A bunch of deluded people who vote on superficial things like gender, color, etc and not on values or substance.

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I think you've been getting your news from Vambo for a little too long lol

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Well that sounds all fine and dandy but the problem is you aren't going to win any purple states that you need to win elections going around the nation spouting about free college.

Unless it's your position that a candidate says, "Well, I talk about free college but I don't really mean it."

For some reason I don't think that's going to go over very well either. So you're saying a progressive will roll over on college tuition the way you claim a moderate would do on healthcare? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.


Don't you live in a deeply red state that offers free tuition towards state college? tongue


Two years at a community college if you meet certain criteria. Certain limitations and requirements exist. You don't get a free ride for four years at some "spa like resort college".

That seems like a reasonable solution and goes along well with what Razor wrote above this.

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I think you've been getting your news from Vambo for a little too long lol


Yep, lol. I think she's a little too ditzy but I love that the GOPers crap their pants over everything about her. Scared of a very nice young woman. She's got her heart in the right place is all, err the left place. wink

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Well that sounds all fine and dandy but the problem is you aren't going to win any purple states that you need to win elections going around the nation spouting about free college.

Unless it's your position that a candidate says, "Well, I talk about free college but I don't really mean it."

For some reason I don't think that's going to go over very well either. So you're saying a progressive will roll over on college tuition the way you claim a moderate would do on healthcare? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here.


Don't you live in a deeply red state that offers free tuition towards state college? tongue


Two years at a community college if you meet certain criteria. Certain limitations and requirements exist. You don't get a free ride for four years at some "spa like resort college".


Fair enough. I kinda forgot the details of the plan. I've always said that I think that any free college program to work, we'll need to rework our entire public education system. We should only go to grade 10 tbh. I also think a lot of these universities should dip into their endowments, which are usually multibillion dollar funds rather than increase our tax burden.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez trolls Fox News in Spanish

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-ente...x-news-spanish/

Ocasio-Cortez mocks Fox News: 'They are far superior to and more intelligent than me'

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/41807...ore-intelligent

lol AOC is having fun giving Fox types all they want.

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GC. I don't know how anybody votes for a democrat. Seriously they should be a 1% party, seriously.

Looking at a history of Democrat presidential candidates, Isn't there another way to have a different #2 party, I mean the democrats,

Thank God for the republicans, because if they weren't around, imagine if all the democrats were elected every time for the last 60 years, we'd be living under government tyranny.

Watching a show on Gary Hart, reminds me, the Democrats have never had a normal person run for president, not a one, from Carter, to Al Gore, to Joe Biden,

Where do they find these complete abnormal human beings in a line?

Micheal Dukakis, and Walter Mondale? someone couldn't find these consistently "odd" individuals to match the previous candidates consistenly oddness if they did a prolonged search.

I think, if you want to be democrat, just move to Venezuela, (where the people starve)

or Any other socialist communist place, where the government takes contrl of peoples lives and they live in various versions of tyranny .

Republicans, left unchecked, would bring prosperity for just about everybody, eventually,

Democrats , left unchecked, would bring tyranny under the oppressive government, for just about everybody eventually,

I honestly don't believe, don't understand why it's not Republicans, and another, More Sensible party as the #2,

with the democrats on the fringe, somewhere getting 1 or 2 percent.

40 percent of the voters in America, (democrat voters) must be out of their minds, or tricked, or believeing some fairy tale they want to believe. or blind (figuratively), or something.

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lol this is post is why we get made fun of by people around the world.

absolutely nowhere close to being based in reality.


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So you think the left is 40% of America and we only put up abnormal human beings. Should we put up more normal people like Trump? smh

Throwlong, you can't be serious. You must live in a cave bro.

60% + of America is liberal or left leaning. If the electoral college was ended tomorrow, there would never be another Republican President, ever. Stealing elections is the only way one has been elected since Reagan.

And they've gone full blown crazy with their conspiracy theories, hate, and fear. You want to follow that bunch, more power to you. the GOP is a dying breed. Dinosaurs waiting for the end.

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So you think the left is 40% of America and we only put up abnormal human beings. Should we put up more normal people like Trump? smh

Throwlong, you can't be serious. You must live in a cave bro.

60% + of America is liberal or left leaning. If the electoral college was ended tomorrow, there would never be another Republican President, ever. Stealing elections is the only way one has been elected since Reagan.

And they've gone full blown crazy with their conspiracy theories, hate, and fear. You want to follow that bunch, more power to you. the GOP is a dying breed. Dinosaurs waiting for the end.


You lucky if barely 20% of American is liberal. There are just a lot of current democrats who grew up on what democrats used to be during the old days. I would also say there is about 20% of American that is ultra conservative. That means that 50% of America are just moderates that swing one way or the other based on how well they are lied to by the candidates. Then you have 10% that are just out there to the point they never know what they will do like Cortez for example.

Dominance by either party is self destructive to the nation. It takes a good balance of power between the two to protect our culture and identity as a nation while being flexible enough to change and adapt to a changing world. This idea that one or the other will win out it the worst possible scenario and would destroy our country or lead it to civil war. The second that happens our enemies in the world will pounce so fast it will make your head spin as death will toll in the millions world wide when it happens.


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Is that why Hillary got over 3 million more votes than Trump? Is that why Democrats got 9% more votes than Republicans in the 2018 elections? Do you actually look into any of this or just spout crap?


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Is that why Hillary got over 3 million more votes than Trump? Is that why Democrats got 9% more votes than Republicans in the 2018 elections? Do you actually look into any of this or just spout crap?


And how many of those votes were even made by US citizens. California had millions of fraudulent votes.

Also she got plenty of votes just for being a woman running and having nothing to do with party lines. Part of the movement that women are owed a president and she is the only one running. It wasn't because she was democrat.

Also the main reason our founders set up things the way they did is that that a few big cities couldn't dictate things for the entire country to begin with. Otherwise without that compromise we would not be a United states but a continent of many separate countries just like Europe. Otherwise why would any small state EVER want to be part of the US when it goes against their own interests?


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Is that why Hillary got over 3 million more votes than Trump? Is that why Democrats got 9% more votes than Republicans in the 2018 elections? Do you actually look into any of this or just spout crap?


Do you really want wsckos in California and NY making policy for the whole country? Remember they call TN and Ohio flyover country. Look how these states are being run. People are moving out because they taxed themselves out of business.

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I actually agree with you. I understand the difference between some democrats and a total left wing liberal. I don't advocate a total left wing liberal running our country.

But Razor's crazy rant about "California had millions of fraudulent votes.", is just pure BS propaganda. And I was pointing out how totally inaccurate he was with his 20% figure.

I mean, for a self proclaimed Christian he sure makes up a lot of BS.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Originally Posted By: Dawg Duty
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Is that why Hillary got over 3 million more votes than Trump? Is that why Democrats got 9% more votes than Republicans in the 2018 elections? Do you actually look into any of this or just spout crap?


Do you really want wsckos in California and NY making policy for the whole country? Remember they call TN and Ohio flyover country. Look how these states are being run. People are moving out because they taxed themselves out of business.


Who cares what they call TN and Ohio... It is flyover country because they fly over us going from coast to coast... smh

And I'm getting damn sick of you guys calling Liberals wackos just because you don't understand their policies! Read some facts every now and then before you just make up your mind to be a propaganda parrot.

You don't like being 'flyover country' and being treated like a dumb hick, so you vote republican? lmao Do you really think the GOP cares about your life? They care about the donor class, period. You are just one of their rubes that they can feed lies to and depend on you to spread them. Think about that... Trump loves the uneducated, why? When is the last time the GOP did anything meaningful for working people without giving big money way way way more?

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