Yeah, and as we keep winning we keep dropping. But good teams find value wherever they draft and Dorsey will have his board set, so no matter where we draft he'll take the guy he wants (not needs). Then time will tell us how big of a "steal" he got. I only lean toward DT because it's a position of need, and there are a bunch of them coming out, so odds may favor that position, but the first round pick could be any position he considers "high value" (CB, DE, LB, OT, DT, etc.)
"I am undeterred and I am undaunted." --Kevin Stefanski
"Big hairy American winning machines." --Baker Mayfield
General Manager John Dorsey addressed the media on December 31, 2018. John discusses the Cleveland Browns head coaching search, why this team is a desirable destination for a head coach and assesses Baker Mayfield's rookie season.
John Dorsey: "There's a bright future for this organization"
J/C on the presser - I think Dorsey just has that tight lipped approach. I didn’t get the vibe anyone was ruled out. The fact they are interviewing Gregg first is interesting. They know they want a guy in quickly to assemble staffs etc.
Dorsey wants a guy if character, leader of young men. If GW can convince him he’s a continual learner....
I don’t think anyone is ruled in or out. I like that. You start gushing on one candidate the others may not want to even get involved. It makes sense. All of them need to feel they can get it.
J/C on the presser - I think Dorsey just has that tight lipped approach. I didn’t get the vibe anyone was ruled out. The fact they are interviewing Gregg first is interesting. They know they want a guy in quickly to assemble staffs etc.
Dorsey wants a guy if character, leader of young men. If GW can convince him he’s a continual learner....
I don’t think anyone is ruled in or out. I like that. You start gushing on one candidate the others may not want to even get involved. It makes sense. All of them need to feel they can get it.
I agree, nobody is ruled out or in for that matter. I trust Dorsey. After what I saw of his draft, I gotta say, this guy seems to have a real handle on this job.
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“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- John Dorsey has been an NFL player, scout, draft expert and general manager.
His experience in the league covers more than 30 years.
But this is his first chance to hire a head coach.
That’s why the Browns search for someone to take over the team is so fascinating – and unpredictable.
The names surfacing are all over the place.
There’s Mike McCarthy, the former Green Bay Packers head coach. He is a man well known to Dorsey and other members of the Browns front office.
Once upon a time, they all worked together in Green Bay.
There are assistants with no NFL head coaching experience: Brian Flores (New England, defensive coordinator), Matt Eberflus (Colts, defensive coordinator) and Mike Munchak (Steelers, offensive line coach).
I expect them to interview David Toub, Kansas City’s special teams coach. I think he has a good shot at the job.
But unlike many in the media, I’ll make this confession: I have no clue what Dorsey will do.
Just as I was one of many who had no idea what Dorsey was planning in the 2018 draft.
Here are the names of his first four picks: Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, Austin Corbett and Nick Chubb.
Did anyone even attach three of those names to the Browns? How about two?
Dorsey said interim coach Gregg Williams and offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens will both receive interviews and are candidates for the opening.
As I wrote in my scribbles, Williams seems to sense he would not get the job. Or at least, that was my impression listening to his Sunday press conference in Baltimore following the 26-24 loss to the Ravens.
My guess is both interviews are courtesy. Kitchens will probably receive serious consideration to stay as offensive coordinator, assuming he fits with the new head coach.
The mantra has been the Browns need a young coach with a creative approach to offense. Guess what? They found one. His name is Freddie Kitchens, and he already has a close relationship with franchise quarterback Baker Mayfield.
HOW WE GOT HERE
How can the Browns finish the season with a record of 7-8-1 (winning 5-of-7) and still been looking for a coach?
It’s because Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam saddled Dorsey with former Coach Hue Jackson. That was a condition for Dorsey taking the job when he was hired on December 7, 2017.
At that point, Dorsey had been shockingly fired by Kansas City following the 2017 draft, known as the Patrick Mahomes draft in K.C.
He knew the Browns had oodles of draft picks and salary cap money. He figured it was a tremendous opportunity for a quick turnaround. The team was 1-31 under Jackson. If it meant taking Jackson, he’d would and try to help the coach win some games.
Offensive Coordinator Todd Haley and Jackson had “internal discord,” and both were fired at mid-season. Williams and Kitchens were promoted to bring order, and they did just that.
Part of me wants to say, “They were 5-3, just keep them in place.”
But I have watched the Browns mess up coaching and general manager hirings for years. They must have Dorsey and the new coach in agreement.
If Dorsey doesn’t believe Williams is the long-term answer, look elsewhere. The job is attractive. The candidates are interesting.
It’s just a shame Dorsey wasn’t allowed to do this after the 2017 season, because the Browns would not been in the midst of another coaching search right now.
THE KITCHENS FACTOR
The emergence of Kitchens gives the Browns freedom to hire a CEO type coach, not just a guy who specializes in offense and quarterbacks.
It’s why I believe Toub will be a serious candidate. He is well known to Dorsey, the men worked together in Kansas City.
McCarthy calls his own plays. I know head coaches such as Sean Peyton (New Orleans), Sean McVay (Rams) and Andy Reid (Kansas City) call their own plays. At times, Reid has let others do it.
But I think it’s hard to do double-duty.
Kitchens covers that territory quite well.
As Dorsey said at his press conference: "He has gotten the ball out of the quarterback’s hands quicker. . . He has put some flair and different route combinations together that help out the quarterback. Overall, he has kind of moved the bar on the offensive side of the ball.”
What else is Kitchens supposed to do?
But the Browns do need a head coach who can build a strong staff, starting with a new special teams coach. The defense needs work, especially against the run.
Dorsey is leading the search, empowered to do so by the Haslams.
Go after the guy you want the most..If it doesn't work out go after guy number two..if that doesn't work out then it's nothing more than reaching and just filling a spot..
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
When I managed for Wendy's, our regional director would come in every 4-6 months or so for a visit. He was a great people manager. He would constructively comment on things he saw that weren't to standard, and ask for a plan to get them where they needed to be. No drama, just constructive correction/instruction.
He also knew every long term employee by name. He valued each and every crew worker working when he came in, spoke personally to each one, and said "I appreciate the work you do for us" to every single one. He would also coach a crew member if he saw them doing something wrong ..... in a kind, but firm manner, and would show them the right way.
He was probably the best boss I ever worked for. Thank you Darrell, for a great example to follow.
Anyway, people really will run through walls for you if they truly feel they are appreciated, and valued. Dorsey seems to get that. It's a good thing for the Browns organization.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
When I managed for Wendy's, our regional director would come in every 4-6 months or so for a visit. He was a great people manager. He would constructively comment on things he saw that weren't to standard, and ask for a plan to get them where they needed to be. No drama, just constructive correction/instruction.
He also knew every long term employee by name. He valued each and every crew worker working when he came in, spoke personally to each one, and said "I appreciate the work you do for us" to every single one. He would also coach a crew member if he saw them doing something wrong ..... in a kind, but firm manner, and would show them the right way.
He was probably the best boss I ever worked for. Thank you Darrell, for a great example to follow.
Anyway, people really will run through walls for you if they truly feel they are appreciated, and valued. Dorsey seems to get that. It's a good thing for the Browns organization.
And I don’t think its any coincidence that everyone that has ever been in contact with Fred says basically the same things about him ...
I think the future is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY BRIGHT for many reasons ... this is just another brick in the wall dawg ...
I CAN’T WAIT FOR NEXT YEAR ... for now, i’m Just going to enjoy the proccess FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE OUR RETURN and watch these guys work TOGETHER ... Vers u gotta be happy about that as u well know thats HUGE ...
Dorsey has assembled some talent ... i love the Kitchens hire as ABSURD as some might think it is ... ....
Hilarious. I get such a kick out of "pure football guys."
Don't know who out there has coached a sport. But you are so intent on accomplishing your goals. It becomes all consuming.
I understand how these guys have to be careful to sleep and eat well. At this level besides self motivation. You deal with constant scrutiny.
When these guys talk to the media the questions they get asked are so media driven. They want to know all this garbage detail about behind the scenes controversy "stuff".
I didn't hear a single question that I had an interest in.
The only guy I enjoy watching do interview is Nate Zagura.
Dorsey and Freddie do all they can to not bite their tongues.
I pray to God that this team gets off to a good start because Freddie says some really dumb things. I can figure out what he is trying to say, but he messes up so many sentences that I start cringing.
I am not saying that in a mean way. I'm rooting for the dude and will support if others turn on him just like I have w/other coaches, but damn man.............he is going to be such an easy target because some of his sentences don't make any sense.
Please get off to a fast start and win a ton of games, Browns.
I hear you. I probably should not have brought it up, but I am worried that folks will turn on Freddie, so I am setting some ground-work to protect his ass down the line. LOL
I think the interior of each line needs to improve and become more nasty. The Baltimore game last year showed it on the DL, and the RG position is a hole too
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Our roster sure has changed, the guys on our team should really embrace the NOT For LONG part of NFL....of 53 from couple years ago...what about 15....lots of turn over....GO Browns!!!
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Freddie and Dorsey for that matter will never be called upon to teach English or public speaking.
They are "pure football" men. Their comfort zone is on the field. Coaching is teaching. What matters is the ability to get your points across to the players in a way they understand.
Then over time for the players to trust them and know what to expect from them.
If a player gets his butt chewed out; he should know it's coming. Then be able to accept it and learn from it.
From what I have seen from Freddie. The players will have no problem understanding what he wants from them.
I am as about at ease this year than I have felt since Marty.
We're live in Berea at Cleveland Browns training camp for another Let's Be Clear interview. Hear from General Manager John Dorsey as we preview the upcoming season with the Voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Your post made me think of two greats, Casey Stengel and yogi Berra, who were known for “abusing” the English language to a great degree. both were known for their malapropisms and I never heard anyone refer negatively to them regarding their speech.
I agree that we need to get off to a good start to break free from the loser mindset but I do not think Freddie will be be judged by his folksy speech pattern.
I agree that we need to get off to a good start to break free from the loser mindset but I do not think Freddie will be be judged by his folksy speech pattern.
I think you misinterpreted me. I wasn't talking about his delivery. I was talking about he says some dumb things and he says some things that are better left unsaid.
People are cool w/it now because he is the next great hope. If the team isn't meeting the fan's high expectations, that sentiment will almost certainly change.
I'm looking at Freddie the same way I would if I were interviewing someone I didn't know. All we have to go on so far is what we hear and what we read based on what others see. If you are just basing it on that, I think Freddie gets an A+. He'd be a great interview and someone you'd want to hire. It's hard not to like him and not believe he could do the job just by hearing him talk. He doesn't say dumb things. But he does talk with some bravado for never having been a head coach. It could be that it is just rooted in someone who has a high confidence level in himself. He reminds me of someone who works at a company, believes he could do it better than the leaders he's been charged with following, but doesn't ever politic for anyone's job. He gets it organically and he's had a plan in his mind for an long time if he ever got the chance. He's now very confident in what he is doing and that it will work.
I thought his response about Wylie showed some weakness and insecurity, but other than that I think he's been everything you can hope for at this point.
Of course, the proof will be in the pudding.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
But good teams find value wherever they draft and Dorsey will have his board set, so no matter where we draft he'll take the guy he wants (not needs). Then time will tell us how big of a "steal" he got. I only lean toward DT because it's a position of need, and there are a bunch of them coming out, so odds may favor that position, but the first round pick could be any position he considers "high value" (CB, DE, LB, OT, DT, etc.)![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/hfMNC7T.jpg)
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