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Ok, what do you propose to do?


Also, our allies definitely want us to do something about Russia at any cost, so you have to take that with a grain of salt. I think your articles proved they are desperate for someone to do something about Russia.

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But the purpose was not to say no-one else is without blame


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Anyway. Putin seems to own Trump, the US is weaker with Trump in there trying to deal with Putin and who knows whether this move with Venezuela will ever mean much - but I know Trump is too weak to do or say much about it. And that's bad for the USA at the end of the day.


rofl rofl

Cant make this stuff up.

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Doing there JOB watta joke ,they are doing their job by covering up for Hillary

Oh Brother, you've been listening to too much Infowars, Brietbart and Jerome Corsi.... Yikes


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But the purpose was not to say no-one else is without blame


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Anyway. Putin seems to own Trump, the US is weaker with Trump in there trying to deal with Putin and who knows whether this move with Venezuela will ever mean much - but I know Trump is too weak to do or say much about it. And that's bad for the USA at the end of the day.


rofl rofl

Cant make this stuff up.


Guess you are trolling now and following around *trying* to poke at me?

You need some comprehension lessons. The articles were about PUTIN and BpG pointed out that Europe has some culpability in how Putin has gained his power to be a disrupter. . . . quote 1 was in relation to those articles and BpG's comment.

Are you following yet or are there too many words for you to keep up? I'll continue slowly.

The next quote was in reply to BpG who wondered if Trump being weak on Russia was a perception issue, BpG wondered perhaps Trump is simply damned regardless what he does. . . . and my comment and response was directly related to why Trump is weak on Russia.

Sure - cut and paste and try to make some contrived hypocrisy and willfully - or through ignorance because you fail to comprehend - misrepresent what was said. Nice.

How about this for hypocrisy .... someone saying a poster blows things out of proportion then follows the other poster round sniping away like a troll all day?

Thanks for playing.


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Im done with this matter


I would be too in your situation.


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OK pit I will try again in a CIVIL manner if you will.
can you give me a link that cons are anti law enforcement

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By the way just what is my situation without insult

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following you around all day? lol Get over yourself. I typically reply with rofl when I see something so overly hilarious that I cant help myself.

If you are getting more than 1 reply from me in a day, maybe you should look at the content of your posts going forward.

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I can give you links to some of Individual 1's tweets if you like. Or some links to conservative articles that claim the FBI, the CIA and others are part of the deep state that are out to get Trump.

I don't feel that true conservatives believe the conspiracy theories. You see, not every Republican or Democrat are alike. But to say that "Trumpians" don't believe that there hasn't been a concerted effort among the Justice Department and the FBI to go on some witch hunt is disingenuous at best.

Let's just look at "a band of angry democrats" as an example. He's talking about Mueller who is a Republican. Who was appointed by a Republican that headed the Justice Department. Even Comey is a Republican. Though after everything he has gone though he may need to rethink that one.

Any time you wish to have a civil conversation or discussion I'm open for it. But when people throw out crazy "Individual 1's one liners" they pretty much get met with the same crap they're spewing. Either way works for me.


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Maybe you should quit while you are behind.


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I can give you links to some of Individual 1's tweets if you like. Or some links to conservative articles that claim the FBI, the CIA and others are part of the deep state that are out to get Trump.



Tell it to ALL the former heads of the FBI and Justice who were fired and retired for Bias, Leaking, and other deep state activities according to the IG and other sources.

Tell it to the former CIA Director who had his clearance pulled for anti Trump Bias.

Yea, I know, nothing to see here. notallthere

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Tell it to the former CIA Director who had his clearance pulled for anti Trump Bias.


You quote that like it's something that supports you. But Trump yanked that clearance as punishment for the individual pointing out all the dumb stuff Trump did and said. . . . Trump was roundly criticized by ALL sides for his pettiness in doing this.
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By the way just what is my situation without insult


Not really discussing anything and just throwing out standard clitche's from the hard right. Any time you wish to have a serious conversation about issues it's welcome by me. From your prior post it seems that's an avenue you wish to now travel. I welcome that.

This board would be a much better place if we all took such an approach. But nobody can carry on a serious discussion with certain people on here. All they offer are memes and one liners with no thought of serious discussion. I hope maybe we have turned a corner to where we can actually discuss things. That would be a welcome change of events.

I'm a person who couldn't vote for Hillary either. Had she have been elected you would probably believe I agree with you on almost everything! lmao Do I lean liberal? On most social issues I do. Not so much on border security, the military, gun rights and foreign policy. Some people aren't actually hard right or hard left. When we can finally discuss things as individuals rather than make blanket statement and try to lump everyone into the same category because they don't agree with you on everything, then we can move forward with discussions.


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Sometimes the truth only seems like bias.


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Here, since you won't listen to me, try listening to Ken Star.
He prosecuted Clinton which lead to his impeachment. He knows his stuff...

Ken Starr on Trump's Legal Jeopardy: 'We're Nowhere Near' Indictable or Impeachable Offenses

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/12/11/ke...-or-impeachment

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Perjury didn't cause Clinton to be removed from office so I don't see how anything Trump has done would lead to him being removed from office.

Unless he's proven to have worked with a foreign government to interfere in our election process. And they're a long way from proving that as far as any of us know.

So at this juncture Star seems to know what he's talking about.


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I read - didn't listen - - - - Ken Starr says Trump isn't going to be impeached for paying off women after having affairs with him?? I agree 100%.

When Ken Starr starts trying to tell you and any Fox Stooge who will listen what Mueller has or doesn't have on Trump, Trump Jr or anyone else - I'll point out he's full of crap. He doesn't know - know one does that isn't part of the investigation.

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So mac, lets ask Purp how far off the ground 2 Russian Bombers would get, without fighter support, in Venezuela, if we really thought they were a threat to the US.

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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.


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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.


Yes, kinda what Trump did with North Korea.

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LMAO. What do they have that can hurt the USA?

A lot more than Sadam ever had. That seemed a massive problem.

A lot more than Kim Jung-Un. That seemed a massive problem.

A lot more than Iran/Iraq and any other non friendly far east country. That was always a problem.

What - now that it's Putin who owns Trump, so much so that Trump has to cow-tow to Putin when they meet and arrange for meetings without anyone else present to hear what's said ...... now it's ok and we blow it off like they don't have anything to "bother us" !!!

LMAO - you can't make up some of the enabling and feeble things people are willing to say to protect Trump!



The article is from the 10th of December. Today is the 11th of December.

What actions should the U.S. have taken at this time?????

(let me preface the rest of this with: Anti TRump no matter whatism"


Did you read the article? It's completely unknown, at this time, if the jets even HAVE nukes.

Venezuela and Russia are friends.

The U.S. has a naval ship, the USNS, providing humanitarian aid.


And get this, from the article...........and your assumption anyone that doesn't see this as an imminent threat :

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Russia sent its Tu-160 strategic bombers and a missile cruiser to visit Venezuela in 2008 amid tensions with the U.S. after Russia's brief war with Georgia. A pair of Tu-160s also visited Venezuela in 2013.



I don't remember you, or mac, being worried then.

But, Trump wasn't president, right?

notallthere

As for north korea? Some blatherers on here were saying Trump was going to get us in a nuclear war if he did anything.

Now, here we are, and people are griping about something that has happened at least twice before, and saying "Trump isn't doing anything". 1 day after the jets landed.

Pathetic, yet proof of the "I hate TRump" bias.

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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.



We don't even know if the planes have nukes.

And, while a president like kennedy wouldn't have STOOD for this, apparently Barack did, and so did Bush? (or did both of these happen under Barack?)

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Russia sent its Tu-160 strategic bombers and a missile cruiser to visit Venezuela in 2008 amid tensions with the U.S. after Russia's brief war with Georgia. A pair of Tu-160s also visited Venezuela in 2013.

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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.


Yes, kinda what Trump did with North Korea.


Trump didn't do anything with North Korea.

North Korea is still producing ballistic missiles after summit

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea...-summit-n896331

Just like the trade deal he claimed to have with China. They were both lies.


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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.


Yes, kinda what Trump did with North Korea.


Trump didn't do anything with North Korea.

North Korea is still producing ballistic missiles after summit

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea...-summit-n896331

Just like the trade deal he claimed to have with China. They were both lies.



Don't be so foolish. Kennedy stood up to Russia over Nukes in Cuba, bringing us to the brink of war. Russia blinked and turned their ships around. They still had their nukes and continued to build them afterwards.

Trump stood up to North Korea bringing us to the brink of war for firing missiles over our allies heads and threatening to nuke Guam and the US.
North Korea blinked and stopped that crap.

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So much for a bipartisan comment. I said "But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy." so I thought it was pretty clear. I guess not.

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Russia sent its Tu-160 strategic bombers and a missile cruiser to visit Venezuela in 2008 amid tensions with the U.S. after Russia's brief war with Georgia. A pair of Tu-160s also visited Venezuela in 2013.


And just an FYI since you seem to be having problems with your dates. Obama wasn't inaugurated until January 20th 2009. Hope that clears things up for you.


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With long range ballistic missiles threats are everywhere on a global basis.

The fact is, both Russia and the U.S. have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times over. They have for decades now.

A president like Kennedy wouldn't have standed for this. But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy.


Yes, kinda what Trump did with North Korea.


Trump didn't do anything with North Korea.

North Korea is still producing ballistic missiles after summit

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea...-summit-n896331

Just like the trade deal he claimed to have with China. They were both lies.



Don't be so foolish. Kennedy stood up to Russia over Nukes in Cuba, bringing us to the brink of war. Russia blinked and turned their ships around. They still had their nukes and continued to build them afterwards.

Trump stood up to North Korea bringing us to the brink of war for firing missiles over our allies heads and threatening to nuke Guam and the US.
North Korea blinked and stopped that crap.


Yet he told the American people, "You are safer now" which is a lie. They have the exact same missiles and capability they had before.

Here's what it says no matter your attempt at revisionist history...

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"Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office," Trump tweeted as he arrived back in Washington. "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."

Trump also said in a separate tweet that North Korea is "no longer" the US' "biggest and most dangerous problem," telling Americans and the rest of the world they can "sleep well tonight!"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/trump-north-korea-nuclear-threat/index.html


Those things are just more lies.


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I didn't condemn or praise Trump in the post you quoted me.

So as for Anti Trump no-matter what .... no, not me in this post.

Look in the mirror. I think you have a case of "Run to Trump's defense no matter what"


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Your bias is showing again.


I was simply posting facts. Sorry the don't suit you.

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So much for a bipartisan comment. I said "But we haven't had a president like Kennedy, since, well Kennedy." so I thought it was pretty clear. I guess not.

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Russia sent its Tu-160 strategic bombers and a missile cruiser to visit Venezuela in 2008 amid tensions with the U.S. after Russia's brief war with Georgia. A pair of Tu-160s also visited Venezuela in 2013.


And just an FYI since you seem to be having problems with your dates. Obama wasn't inaugurated until January 20th 2009. Hope that clears things up for you.


Are you really that dense? In the damn post you quoted..........damn, son, read it!!!!

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I freaking listed Bush!!!!!

And I asked a question.

Damn, you've become what I think you didn't want to become.

I would love to have discussion, but the overwhelming thoughts on here lately have been negative.

Carry on with your bad self. God bless.

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You didn't - sorry. You need a comprehension lesson. Go back and read what was said and who it was said to.


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Russia and China each have enough nuclear power to destroy the entire world all by themselves. We do too. What most people don't understand is that the new nukes out there don't have to hit their target. It would only take about 6 major nukes blown up in the atmosphere and 90% of the modern world will be gone along with half the world population. Missile intercept systems don't help when nukes are already armed and can cause massive damage to the possibly even more so by being blown up in the sky.

The next world war will most likely be the last one that humans are a part of.


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Off topic - But great to see you back Razor ... the board missed you in our praise and adoration of a truly G.R.E.A.T performance by Baker Mayfield. Heck PFF had him rated as the best QB play in the NFL week 14. Hope to see you come over and let us all know how much he wowed you.


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I been reading just not had much time to post. I'm always very busy in december between family stuff and seasonal charities and just holiday stuff in general.

Baker has looked good though. I also see him getting away with some bad throws that easily could have been picks. Still though I am very pleased with his performance thus far.

I just can't get excited till I see how the team is ripped apart this off season for whatever new coach comes in.


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I freaking listed Bush!!!!!

And I asked a question.


You didn't list Bush, you asked if Bush was the president in 2008. lmao Yes, he was president in 2008.

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Damn, you've become what I think you didn't want to become.


And you are still what you've always been.

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God bless you and yours as well.


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Here is what I posted:
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And, while a president like kennedy wouldn't have STOOD for this, apparently Barack did, and so did Bush? (or did both of these happen under Barack?)


That, sir, is listing Bush, AND asking a question.

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Here is what I posted:
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And, while a president like kennedy wouldn't have STOOD for this, apparently Barack did, and so did Bush? (or did both of these happen under Barack?)


That, sir, is listing Bush, AND asking a question.


arch..in cases of Bush and Obama, Russia was not allowed to "stay" with their jets threatening the USA...

To be fair, let's see if Trump allows his good friend Putin to keep his jets based in Venz, threatening the USA...you agree?


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

And, while a president like kennedy wouldn't have STOOD for this, apparently Barack did, and so did Bush? (or did both of these happen under Barack?)


It appears you're having difficulty in differentiating between putting someone on a list and asking if they should be included on the list. It's not that complicated.

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Russia sent its Tu-160 strategic bombers and a missile cruiser to visit Venezuela in 2008 amid tensions with the U.S. after Russia's brief war with Georgia. A pair of Tu-160s also visited Venezuela in 2013.


Since Bush was president during all of 2008, it's only obvious that it once happened under Bush. So why the question in the first place if you knew the answer?

Once again, you're welcome.


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Sure, I agree.

Sidebar: Did the jets HAVE nukes?

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Sure, I agree.

Sidebar: Did the jets HAVE nukes?


The jets had joe Namath.


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