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Mike Reid.
I think he had both knee and hand injuries when he retired. He was a very good d-lineman.
I think he is still performing as a musician, but I'm not sure about that.
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If NASCAR can do reasearch and design a wall that saves lives when you crash your car into said wall going 200mph, then I dont understand why a NFL helmet cant be designed to protect a brain from men roughhousing. You would think, but I it has more to do with physics. There is literally nothing you can do to prevent the brain from being moved around inside your head. Its not the hit that causes the concussion itself, its the force of the brain being hit against your skull inside your head. Think of golf ball inside a small jar of water. You can surround that with as much padding and protection as you want, but if you shake it, the ball is still going to move inside the jar.
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If NASCAR can do reasearch and design a wall that saves lives when you crash your car into said wall going 200mph, then I dont understand why a NFL helmet cant be designed to protect a brain from men roughhousing. You would think, but I it has more to do with physics. There is literally nothing you can do to prevent the brain from being moved around inside your head. Its not the hit that causes the concussion itself, its the force of the brain being hit against your skull inside your head. Think of golf ball inside a small jar of water. You can surround that with as much padding and protection as you want, but if you shake it, the ball is still going to move inside the jar. Extending the NASCAR reference, if they could find a way to adapt the Hans device for football it would be valuable.
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If NASCAR can do reasearch and design a wall that saves lives when you crash your car into said wall going 200mph, then I dont understand why a NFL helmet cant be designed to protect a brain from men roughhousing. While I agree with you about helping cut down on fatalities, Earnhardt Jr. just retired due to concussions. Those walls and safety devices help cut down on fatalities but still do nothing to stop concussions.
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If NASCAR can do reasearch and design a wall that saves lives when you crash your car into said wall going 200mph, then I dont understand why a NFL helmet cant be designed to protect a brain from men roughhousing. You would think, but I it has more to do with physics. There is literally nothing you can do to prevent the brain from being moved around inside your head. Its not the hit that causes the concussion itself, its the force of the brain being hit against your skull inside your head. Think of golf ball inside a small jar of water. You can surround that with as much padding and protection as you want, but if you shake it, the ball is still going to move inside the jar. Hmmmm I know I'm crazy but the instant you posted this and I read it. I was thinking how come they can't insert a silicon based cap inside the skull similar to a woman's breast implant but this would be around the brain inside the skull and filled up. To eliminate that brain from impacting on the skull. I know as age comes about the Brain shrinks a bit making Seniors more apt to having severe head trauma cause of more room for that Brain to bounce around hard against the skull....sorry just thinking out loud!
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Kelso said only two other players wore the ProCap in those days — former 49ers left tackle Steve Wallace, an All-Pro selection in 1992, and Randy Dixon, a guard who started 110 games for the Colts in a nine-year career that concluded in 1995. Kelso intercepted a pass in his first game wearing the ProCap in 1990. He went on to play four seasons with the device, which he credits for extending his career. In 1992, he picked off a career-high seven passes and helped the Bills to their third of four consecutive Super Bowl appearances. In four seasons wearing the ProCap, Kelso said he suffered one concussion, but it occurred when a player who was “100 pounds” heavier kneed him in the side of the head. ProCap Football Helmet Accessory May 14, 2012 =68.ARDZM0nzhzPmDba43Kbi0o8OU7zvLvajDdwW...bnG3q5U2PY]link Wallace wasn't done being a trendsetter. He'd taken a series of blows to his head, suffering three concussions in less than two seasons. In one game, against Atlanta, a reporter asked him afterward if he would retire due to the concussions. He didn't remember the interview or the answer, because he was mentally out of it. "I stayed back in Atlanta for observation. When I got back to San Francisco, I read in the paper that I was going to retire." He had three choices: Play on and risk his future, find a compromise or quit the game. He chose to play with a Procap helmet. Basically, the designer padded his regular helmet with Styrofoam. "It was a double helmet, and it was heavy, but that thing was like having a rubber cushion," Wallace said. "It worked. I never had another concussion. I truly believed if I had another one I wouldn't have played again. They were bad. I got one in one game and played again the next week. People were running around me and I didn't know where I was. It wasn't until the final five minutes that things settled down and I felt like Steve Wallace again." With long-term damage from concussions being explored in the NFL now, Wallace said the helmet he wore 20 years ago needs to be considered by everyone who plays the game. "Why not take a look at this? The whole idea of the Procap is what NASCAR uses to cushion walls at races. Why not have the extra protection? Guys are dying earlier; guys are losing their memory. Something needs to be done."
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IMO, what Ward needs is to bulk up. He is very slender, and light. I believe that the weight room and a good trainer will help him more than anything.
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When baseball players get concussions, like Justin Morneau, they are sometimes ruined. It seems like it can ruin the eye hand coordination required to hit a fastball. Always made me wonder how much it affects football players making those split second decisions.
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It's not just the helmet, but rather ALL the pads that need to be re-evaluated/rethought...
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IMO, what Ward needs is to bulk up. He is very slender, and light. I believe that the weight room and a good trainer will help him more than anything. That isn't him. Bulk beyond a near point would kill him as a cover corner. He just needs to go low. He can do that tomorrow. Just do that.
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I watched him in his last game and he's not afraid to stick his nose in there. I just wish h didn't go helmet to helmet with 250# TEs.
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That tackle was a mistake, but people are off their rocker if they think the dude isn't a good tackler.
All defenders get in bad positions at times and Ward messed-up on that particular tackler, but he is actually one of the best form tacklers that I have seen.
People overreact on here.
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niolen, that sf linebacker was from my hometown. Chris Borland. May have gone to Wisconsin.
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niolen, that sf linebacker was from my hometown. Chris Borland. May have gone He went to Wisconsin. Fixed it for you Keith 
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That tackle was a mistake, but people are off their rocker if they think the dude isn't a good tackler.
All defenders get in bad positions at times and Ward messed-up on that particular tackler, but he is actually one of the best form tacklers that I have seen.
People overreact on here. You've been on this point since Ward hurt his shoulder and GW started complaining about his technique...and I agree with you. When he hurt his shoulder earlier in the year, that looked more like bad luck than poor form. Could the form have been better? Sure. But is wasn't POOR to my novice eye. When he got concussion #1, that was definitely bad luck. My memory is that he got ear-holed a bit from friendly fire. When he got concussion #2, I wouldn't even call that a "tackle". I just think he thought he'd push the guy out of bounds and the guy rocked him instead...he simply wasn't ready for that. Seemed like more of a rookie mistake than poor form. JMO there. His past history - outside of one or two tackles - is that he's quite a good tackler and uses good, effective form. I think people appear to overreact because the HC said something was so...so it must be so. Even when it isn't.
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That tackle was a mistake, but people are off their rocker if they think the dude isn't a good tackler.
All defenders get in bad positions at times and Ward messed-up on that particular tackler, but he is actually one of the best form tacklers that I have seen.
People overreact on here. You've been on this point since Ward hurt his shoulder and GW started complaining about his technique...and I agree with you. When he hurt his shoulder earlier in the year, that looked more like bad luck than poor form. Could the form have been better? Sure. But is wasn't POOR to my novice eye. When he got concussion #1, that was definitely bad luck. My memory is that he got ear-holed a bit from friendly fire. When he got concussion #2, I wouldn't even call that a "tackle". I just think he thought he'd push the guy out of bounds and the guy rocked him instead...he simply wasn't ready for that. Seemed like more of a rookie mistake than poor form. JMO there. His past history - outside of one or two tackles - is that he's quite a good tackler and uses good, effective form. I think people appear to overreact because the HC said something was so...so it must be so. Even when it isn't. I don't know if he is that good as his technique is being claimed here, but he is good I wouldn't say as good as Peppers.
The other statement which possibly Vers was alluding to.
One of the most important variables in tackling is ANGLES.
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Angles and body positioning. I think he can tackle fine. He just needs to process info like a QB. Read and reactions.
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He tackles fine. He just needs to keep his head out of it.
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I think he does tackle fine ... but I also think that he thinks he weighs 40lbs more than he does. I'd like to see him protect himself a little more rather than thinking he can hit hard like Ronnie Lott while he tackles.
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He tackles fine. He just needs to keep his head out of it. Most of our DB's and our LB's tackle like crap. It's a trend in the NFL not to use your arms to wrap the guy up apparently. A guy his size also needs to limit the high tackles. It ain't just his head that is going to get broken.
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