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Yes that's a good call... Goff is the only QB I can think of where I heard overwhelmingly that hue coveted them. Which was why i was going for the inside scoop!! 
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There is no "inside scoop". Only self created scoops by posters.
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Quote:
Per King, GM John Dorsey tasked his top lieutenants -- assistant GM Eliot Wolfe and consultant Scot McCloughan, formerly of the Redskins -- with grading and ranking the top four quarterbacks: Mayfield, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen and Sam Darnold. The idea was to get an independent grade from all three men to avoid any unconscious bias in the evaluation.
All three of them ranked Mayfield first, and Dorsey/Wolfe -- who both hail from the Packers organization -- had the exact same grade on Mayfield: 8.5 out of 9, an extremely high scouting grade. Even more interesting is that Wolfe used his report from when he was in Green Bay, last fall. So it's not like he was desperate to talk anyone into Mayfield; the Packers had Aaron Rodgers.
When the GM compared the three reports he noted not only that all three men rated Mayfield first, but also this: Wolf's grade was identical to Dorsey's 8.5 on the 1.0-to-9.0 scouting scale they'd learned with the Packers. (Dorsey retained the grading system with the Chiefs and now in Cleveland.) An 8.5 is worthy of a top 10 pick in any draft. "Keep in mind," Wolf says, "I had no horse in the race. I was in Green Bay. We weren't taking a quarterback in the first round. But to me, Mayfield was clearly the best guy." McCloughan graded on a different scale, where the lower the number the better, and he gave Mayfield a 1.1. That, in Packers parlance, is roughly an 8.5.
In other words, it wasn't hard for the trio to get on the same page. The reports, the analytics and the eye test all matched up: Mayfield was the guy.For me this is a Drop Mike situation...lol 
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When we took Kessler on the 3rd round and he said what he said, I never felt that he actually meant much by that comment other than being supportive of a rookie on his team 100 percent correct. But I've no real idea which QBs that we could have drafted Hue coveted Because he hemed and hauwed around and never did support any single guy. But I've no real idea which QBs that we could have drafted Hue coveted ... I always got the impression we were targeting Mahomes In the early teens but got beaten to it by KC .... But any sort of inside feel or look on Hue would be interesting to know. The front office at the time liked Mahomes. BUT they believed we needed to build the rest of the team before we took our QB.
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It isn't hard to conceive that a bunch of ex Green Bay execs rated the guy that plays like Brett Favre the highest.
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The front office at the time liked Mahomes. BUT they believed we needed to build the rest of the team before we took our QB. Seems we built most of the Team and took the QB this past off season..Thank you Mr Front Office...
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All the bashing of Baker? Really?
Are you also saying that Hue should not have accepted a job offer out of loyalty to the Browns AFTER they fired his ass?
LMAO man. I like you, but come on... I'm not talking about here, I mean in the media. And I'm pretty sure I said Hue had every right to join the Bengals. What I question, was him deciding to be on the field so soon against the very team he was just coaching. IMO, it was a bad decision, and a little arrogant, considering it had only been a couple weeks. And no, I don't believe he needed to be loyal to the Browns, it is more about the perception the players would get.
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Thanks GM.
Interesting article on the 4 QB reviews all having Baker as first overall. I know scouting and predicting talent transitioning from college to NFL is totally subjective .... But it seems many inside the NFL had Baker rated 1st as did PFF but all the talking heads including mayock who I like a lot had others ahead of him.
Bottom line, I love that Baker is our QB.
Hey, GM, any insight on any the friction and chip on Baker's shoulder regarding Hue? Personally for a guy who has always earned his place on the team I doubt him being designated TTs back up is the root of the issue ... And I expect the media circus and Hue blaming anyone and everyone except himself after being released has a much bigger factor .... But there has to be more IMO and I have no idea what it is.
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All the bashing of Baker? Really?
Are you also saying that Hue should not have accepted a job offer out of loyalty to the Browns AFTER they fired his ass?
LMAO man. I like you, but come on... I'm not talking about here, I mean in the media. And I'm pretty sure I said Hue had every right to join the Bengals. What I question, was him deciding to be on the field so soon against the very team he was just coaching. IMO, it was a bad decision, and a little arrogant, considering it had only been a couple weeks. And no, I don't believe he needed to be loyal to the Browns, it is more about the perception the players would get. Not a big Hue fan, but to be fair - who else was going to hire him but the Bengals?
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Not a big Hue fan, but to be fair - who else was going to hire him but the Bengals?
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Not everything Hue did was Mud...but he just could not bring about change of that Losing character of the team. I thought his biggest negative. Along with not letting a competition develop between the two QBs. Let TT earn the trust of the team. But to just flat out eliminate competition and not let Baker take any reps with the ones was a bad decision.
The Calloway decision I thought was good...OL and going against Wilie was another bad one.
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All the bashing of Baker? Really?
Are you also saying that Hue should not have accepted a job offer out of loyalty to the Browns AFTER they fired his ass?
LMAO man. I like you, but come on... I'm not talking about here, I mean in the media. And I'm pretty sure I said Hue had every right to join the Bengals. What I question, was him deciding to be on the field so soon against the very team he was just coaching. IMO, it was a bad decision, and a little arrogant, considering it had only been a couple weeks. And no, I don't believe he needed to be loyal to the Browns, it is more about the perception the players would get. Not a big Hue fan, but to be fair - who else was going to hire him but the Bengals? It's not that he went to the Bengals, it was choosing to be on the field that soon after coaching these guys.
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All the bashing of Baker? Really?
Are you also saying that Hue should not have accepted a job offer out of loyalty to the Browns AFTER they fired his ass?
LMAO man. I like you, but come on... I'm not talking about here, I mean in the media. And I'm pretty sure I said Hue had every right to join the Bengals. What I question, was him deciding to be on the field so soon against the very team he was just coaching. IMO, it was a bad decision, and a little arrogant, considering it had only been a couple weeks. And no, I don't believe he needed to be loyal to the Browns, it is more about the perception the players would get. Not a big Hue fan, but to be fair - who else was going to hire him but the Bengals? It's not that he went to the Bengals, it was choosing to be on the field that soon after coaching these guys. Hue is an egomaniac, imo. You can see examples of this with his media tour, always having a scape goat, pushing players and coaches under the bus, etc. When he was fired, he just HAD to prove that it was the team, not him. Well, the bengals lost all but 1 game since he joined the team - we won 5 games and became a pretty darn good offense overnight. yeah yeah, the bengals were beat up yadda yadda yadda....weird there is always this excuse with him, no?
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Yeah, lacking your QB and both your top two WR's is an excuse. And unless you forgot, he wasn't the coach of the Bengals. But whatever gets you off.
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Yeah, lacking your QB and both your top two WR's is an excuse. And unless you forgot, he wasn't the coach of the Bengals. But whatever gets you off. usually losers always find an excuse. NE, Pitt, etc, players get hurt all the time and they keep on chucking out wins. Pitt literally lost the best RB in football to a contract dispute, and they still won games. Brady goes down, they win games with matt cassel. Im sorry, did the Redskins just lose TWO Qbs and still win a few a games? yep, they did.
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Yet Hue doesn't coach the Bengals, isn't the OC of the Bengals nor the DC of the Bengals. And when has a team lost not only their starting QB, but the top 2 WR targets on their team?
Hue was the problem here. We can all see that. But trying to blame him for the woes of the Bengals is just immature BS.
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There is no doubt in my mind in that first game HUE thought for sure the Bengals were going to Thrash us at their house. So I do not feel bad one bit as he was there on the sidelines and in full view of all the media to show US UP...so to that well @$*(^%@!@...for a lack of a better word...lol
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Anyone else lobbying Mike Brown pretending to be a Bengal fan demanding Hue?
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