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Likewise, but my acceptance is grudgingly. A couple of years ago M/S Spartans TE Josiah Price caught my eye when he scored, then handed the football to the ref and headed to the sidelines. I paid attention after that, and he always did that. He did celebrate with his teammates on the sideline. I loved it.

(Price was an UDFA with the Vikings. They released him in 2107 but brought him back to camp for 2108, where he suffered a season-ending knee injury.)

Get it right....he plunked a guy in the head. At that moment I knew he had the accuracy to be special.

NFL fines Browns QB Baker Mayfield $10,026 for sideline gesture; he plans to appeal


By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal/Ohio.com

Posted at 5:10 PM
Updated at 5:12 PM

In the NFL’s opinion, Browns rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield crossed a line while celebrating a touchdown in the second quarter of Sunday’s 26-18 win over the Cincinnati Bengals.

The league fined Mayfield $10,026 for unsportsmanlike conduct for a gesture he made on the sideline right in front of offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens.

Mayfield’s camp plans to appeal the fine, agent Jack Mills told the Beacon Journal/Ohio.com by phone Saturday.

After Mayfield threw a 1-yard touchdown pass to tight end Darren Fells with 7:12 left in the second quarter, the No. 1 overall pick in April’s draft ran up to Kitchens on the sideline and appeared to pretend to expose his privates.

On Wednesday, Mayfield denied he pretended to expose himself.

“I didn’t,” he said.

Kitchens also defended Mayfield on Thursday when asked about the gesture.

“I don’t know what he did wrong,” Kitchens said. “I don’t know. I don’t understand what he did wrong. I don’t understand what the big deal is. He’s in the middle of a football game in the National Football League. There’s great emotion in a game of football, and whatever he does on the football field is on the football field, so I don’t know.

“I like guys that have a relentless pursuit of competition, and they rally around the competition. Sometimes when you are in competition, some things you do, you just do. You don’t even know why the hell you do it, but I don’t have a problem with Baker. If I did, I would talk to him about it, and any conversation I had with him would stay between us.”

https://www.ohio.com/sports/20181229/nfl...plans-to-appeal


I didn't see the gesture so I have no comment on it.

I thought I saw that when it happened on the sideline. I actually rewound it at the time and watched it again. He can deny it...I know what I saw looked like what I saw. It didn’t pass my mind again until I saw that he got fined.
What he did was... juvenile. I’m not surprised he did it. I’m glad he did it on the sideline and didn’t cost us yards or such.

I was one to speak against Baker’s antics pre draft and post. I love his play but I really do hope he grows past this type of crap.

Pretty sure he will.
I think back on the stunts I pulled when I was 23, and then think about who I was when I was 29.

World of difference.

Well money talks. Baker has never paid a monetary price for his antics. (Maybe some bail money post being tackled by the cops?)
He’s $10,000 lighter today. Assuming his appeal loses, and it will. Let’s see how he responds.

He feigned pulling a giant [censored] out of his pants. Kitchens said it’s a running joke among the QBs.

He denied staring Hue down ... was the next day before he fessed up ...

Dudes got serious maturity issues ...

He’ll grow up as he’s not a “bad” kid just an inmature one .... he can do that and not lose the bag of chips he has on his shoulder ..

I think most of us can say that.

Media kept wanting to call him "cocky".

So he helped them out with that. lol

I dont really care what he does on the sidelines.

I find his personality kind of endearing. Same way how I liked JR Smith.

All I care is he keeps his nose clean and plays hard and wins.

All the crap that goes on in the endzone, and this is a joke between a player and a coach. I don't get it. The call on Callaway for doing the first down thing while looking at the opposing player, I don't get that either.

I see crap like this every week on the field and nothing is said. IMO, it's all bull. I watched AB get a first down scream in the guys face do the first down thing and spike the ball, but that was alright.

IMO, people just don't like Mayfield, and he is going to get crap like this all the time.

Drip, drip, drip.

I'm good with it, no big deal to me.

I'd rather our QB wreak of arrogance and overconfidence than some of the QB's of the past who were so timid they could barely get out of bed on game day.

Please Baker, bring more of it as our team feeds of it.

They feed off of his leadership on the field. Not lewd gestures on the sidelines.

He wasn't doing it to the other team, or disrespecting anyone. It was an inside thing between him and Kitchens. Having that relationship and having fun together does cause they to feed off of stuff like that. They're having fun together as a team. That's great.

Still a kid. Heck, most of these guys I consider barely young men. I hope he never loses his kid like attitude but I'm not really down with the D floppin capers. Ultimately, win football games. I don't hang around with him nor does he represent me as a man.

Yeah, ignoring NFL rules and getting fined is GREAT!

Yeah as really NFL does play favorites in positions it seems.

We've heard from a few people how Baker Mayfield has, according to them, put a bull's eye on his back because he stared down a coach............and EX coach.

I submit Lamar Jackson (who had a great game today) as being someone that dissed an entire defense twice today.

1. by flipping into the endzone for a t.d. (that was called back), but attempting to show up the defensive players on the field.

2. After getting sacked, he spun the ball in front of the defenders.

The guy, Jackson, definitely put a target on his back. According to the self proclaimed expert, and some of his cohorts. He attempted to embarrass players.

Baker hasn't done that.

When can I expect to hear certain posters calling out Lamar Jackson for putting a target on his back while dissing PLAYERS on the field?

...or God forbid call him an ass.

No doubt an exciting player! I didn't like his celebration beginning at the 10 yard line. Someone WILL knock the ball out of his hand or drill him from an unseen angle. As a coach I'd forbid that flip!

I don't wish it but he's gonna break at some point. We've seen it again and again. He's fast but there are fast defenders also. Someone will drill him.

Like someone said in the Gameday thread, running QBs don't last long.

I don't think it's that he is going to "put a target on his back", it's just going to be organic that he IS a target for running and therefore someone has to tackle him. Odds are it catches up after a while.

No answer to your question. He very much reminds me of MVick as the shiny new flavor of the day that didn't last. And Slash. He will get drilled. Want the target right there.

Draft some tacklers and attack in the backfield. We stunk up playing the run. A solid D needs to get off the field better than we did today.

Also, to add.... I don't feel Baker has done anything to put a target on his back either.

Everybody EVERYBODY trash talks, has gameday attitude, is pumped up, etc

What has actually happened this season is that Baker came out of the gates as an excellent QB the BEST QB in the draft, who has turned the tide in Cleveland, the WORST team in the NFL, and add to the mix that he has a charismatic entertaining personality......and so the media hype begins because it's a great story. A story people love/hate, media click bait. The media is gonna milk this for all it's worth.

Baker is GOOD
Media gotta troll for DRAMA.
DRAMA sells.

Disney calls this story "Cinderalla"

Yeah, he's directly doing thins that are "dissing" defenses, yet no one questions him? All we hear is "baker stared down an ex coah." for all of 5 seconds and "baker is putting a target on his back". Sad that some are so distraught over hue being fired that they make up crap about Baker.

*LOL* ...

After todays game and this season this your first thought ...

Awesome arch ...

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for me arch ... i could care less about Lamar or what he does ...

INMATURITY and all ... BAKES MY MAN ... just like he’s always been since we called his name ...

Woof woof ,,

Happy New Year to u and yours Mr. Arch ...

About time to start gearing up for umping dawg ...

j/c

I do see Lamar's style as ending up hurting him at some point. It's just so risky to run that much

jc

this thread definitely comes off as less about Lamar, and more about somebody having a grip over some posters upset about bakers antics.

Lamar doesn't play for this team, so there's no reason for posters to be more critical of other players over their own. ofcourse people are gonna critique his attitude more than Lamar because he's OUR QB, and lamar isn't.

obviously this thread wasn't aimed at me because i love bakers spirit right now. but come on bro, lets be real here: lamar doesn't have a tape of him trying to bolt from the cops.

some are just nervous that MATURITY-wise - not actually talent and skillset based- that baker is pulling manziel kinda nonsense. acting like he's whipping out his junk on the sideline might be cool for some, but for those posters who like their QB's to act more like a CEO rather than a child, its gonna be a problem.

No offense Swish, but the "running from cops" vid is ancient history. Only haters care about it because that, and the "crotch grab", is all they have left.

Someone on the field may take Lamar's antics to heart and do something about it on any given day. Here's the bottom line... Lamar is in a position where he is constantly exposed to that type of stuff because of his style of play. It won't be because he celebrated on an earlier play, it will be because a defense has waited all day for a chance to take his head off.

Kid is a special talent, he's also one "slobber-knocker" away from being damaged goods... and he (and his team) puts himself in the position to cash in 15-20 times a game. It's simple math in my eyes. Until then, it will be a lot of fun to watch. This year's playoffs will be a lot of fun to watch.

i understand.

but this isn't about lamar's style of play. this thread is about arch being upset that posters called out bakers antics, but not saying anything about lamar flipping into the endzone, and spinning the ball after getting sacked.

what im saying is that for those posters who have an issue with posters not calling out lamar over it, it wouldnt make sense because lamar doesn't play for our team. enough said something in the gameday thread, but nobody is gonna make a thread specifically about another QB's antics because he isn't our QB.

by that logic, threads specifically on Aaron Rodgers antics should've been made years ago. it hasn't. why? because he doesn't play for the browns.

Arch, I like you man but starting a thread just to bash a poster isn't cool.

Good point - you're right.

We're always looking for some silly comparison on any given "galvanizing" subject.

I was reading this thread early in the morning and thought "wow, isn't it nice to have a QB that checks nearly every box and worry that his cocky attitude may come back and bite him in the a$$".

definitely.

for me, im not worried about the antics until something actually happens. Baker brings a certain fire to this team. sometimes its gonna go a bit overboard, but oh well. thats football.

i mean, flipping into the endzone? if baker did the same thing, we'd already have posters with that very play in a gif on their signature block. people are only salty because it happened to us.

I'm one of those dudes that is just never bothered by that ish. He's doing a backflip and I'm thinking "unstoppable". Get in our face talking trash... or play dirty ~ different story. Antics? C'mon man!

Couldn't this have gone on the other thread?

Also, I think some people put too much importance (for players) on the things other players do. Most guys want to do some kind of celebration if they have a huge play. How many WRs or DBs have done the flip into the end zone thing? While guys may not like it when players on the other team don't like it, they look forward to their own opportunities.

It's not 15-20 (even I said that in a different thread) but as I think about it... he runs 15-20 times, he drops back another 25 times per game... that's 40-45 times a game, when the defense is coming for him.

And it's not likely to be a "slobber-knocker"... more like a rolled knee or getting twisted in a pile... or even one of those feared "non-contact" injuries.

But his attitude, the dude is 6-1 in his first 7 NFL starts and he's going to the playoffs... the way these guys dance around, get in each others faces, showboat every chance they get, spin the ball after a routine catch, do the first down point after a 3 yard run, do their "sack dance", etc.... I don't see Baker or Lamar do much of anything that most other players don't do... more like the old guys hate to see young guys do it because of some perception that they "haven't paid their dues yet".. or some nonsense.

I agree. If we didn't want Lamar to embarrass us we should have tackled him once in awhile.

This is a great thread.

VersatileDog, your team is embarking on decades of unprecedented success. At the helm of the ship is this young man with whom you find fault. Would you rather wait around for the perfect captain to arrive? Jesus in a helmet?

Stop skulking around in the stern of the boat. Come up to the bow. Enjoy the sights and smells of cheering for a champion.

The entirety of Baker Mayfield is contrived: contrived for victory and loyalty. When you cut that dude up into the thinnest of slices, you will find they are all the same: team solidarity for the sake of a championship. Everyone and everything else, to Baker Mayfield, gets one reply: GTFO!

What you see is EXACTLY what you get.

If you don't like it, I guess you can go cheer for Kirk Cousins and the Vikings or something. He likes to hold hands and share precious bible verses, I hear.

#GoodGuysFinishLast

I didn't want to post on this thread again because it got so ugly, but......



I love how people tell others who to root for.

I have been a Brown's fan for 54 freaking years and I got a guy who started rooting for the Browns less than a year ago and is only here because of one player telling me who I should root for.

Pffftttttttttt............