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You know, I really dislike Kamala Harris, but conservatives are really disgusting in their attacks against women. It's what to expect now from a Con, but still always sad to see our Con brethren roll in the mud like pigs. It's disgusting and unbecoming.

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Ohio Gov. Kasich Stumps Again In Support Of Medicaid Expansion
August 21, 20185:19 PM ET
KAREN KASLER


Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a Republican, is eager to preserve an expansion of Medicaid that he pushed through, despite opposition from other members of his party.
Ron Schwane/AP
Four years after going out on a limb to get Medicaid expansion enacted in Ohio, outgoing Republican Gov. John Kasich is worried about the future of the program. So he is now defending it — through a study and through the stories of people who have benefited from the coverage expansion.

One of those people is Brenda Jean Searcy, a 55-year-old law student who lives with her 93-year-old father in the Columbus suburb of Westerville. She says she had always been healthy but was felled by Lyme disease and then Graves' disease; the diagnosis of the latter came after she had signed up for Medicaid through the expansion.

"I am very grateful to have Medicaid. It has made my life much better and made me much healthier," Searcy says at a press conference.

Searcy is one of the 653,000 Ohioans who gained coverage through the Medicaid expansion, four years after Kasich defied his fellow Republican legislators in pushing Medicaid expansion through.

He claimed it would bring $13 billion in federal funding to help low-income people in Ohio get health care — especially those struggling with mental illness and addiction. Kasich is nearing the end of his second term and will leave office in January. He wants the Medicaid expansion to continue, and his Medicaid department commissioned an independent study on the effects of the expansion to support it.

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Ohio Medicaid Director Barbara Sears says the analysis shows Medicaid expansion has cut in half the number of uninsured Ohioans. Ninety-six percent of people in the program with opioid addiction got treatment, and 37 percent of smokers were able to quit. One-third reported improved health, including better access to medical care for high blood pressure and diabetes. ER visits went down 17 percent, and there was a 10 percent increase in the number of people seeing primary care doctors. And most recipients said Medicaid expansion made it easier to find work, earn more money and care for their families.

The state's budget office, part of the executive branch, estimates Medicaid expansion will cost nearly $5.2 billion in 2021, the first year Ohio will pay its full share of the costs as determined by the Affordable Care Act.

Ohio budget director Tim Keen says the state's projected share would amount to $354.1 million. However, with drug rebates, assessments on managed care plans, a 1 percent tax on premiums and other offsets, the state's share drops to $163.1 million. "Medicaid expansion is a significantly better deal for the states and for Ohio than the traditional program, and that's important as one considers our ability to fund this program," Keen says.

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But Republican lawmakers have long had concerns about the program's cost.

And so does the Republican candidate to replace Kasich, Attorney General Mike DeWine. After stating for months that he feels the Medicaid expansion is financially unsustainable, DeWine says he'll keep it but makes changes, such as implementing work requirements and wellness programs. DeWine hasn't made clear how much those changes would save the program – for instance, 96 percent of Medicaid expansion recipients in Ohio would be exempt from work requirements.

Kasich says he has talked to DeWine's team about supporting the program. "I worry a little bit about somebody kind of nickeling and diming it away somehow — a little bit here, a little bit there — but I think they'll be for it," Kasich says.

Karen Kasler is statehouse bureau chief for Ohio Public Radio and Television.

You mean like the same attacks that the left levied against Sarah Palin, Sarah Sanders, Kelly Ann, and Melania?

What type of shoes is Kamala wearing?

Both sides do it, don't just single out the right.

The biggest left wing media members joked about confusing them for porn stars? That's weird, I don't remember that. Would you please find me a link where Anderson Cooper compares Sarah Palin to Lisa Ann. I'll wait.

Your right, its better to slut shame her daughter and make fun of her special needs grandchild....

And puh lease, the left has compared Melania and said far worse.

I think the attacks on Kamala are horrid, I am not condoning those in the least bit.

I think both sides need to stop and grow up with them - but I don't have one sided blinders on that doesn't see both sides doing it.

Because one side spewed trash, does not mean other should too. Maybe if we held politicians to a higher standard, the media to a higher standard, we can finally hold this board to a higher standard as well.

Yes, that John Kasich. If you're looking for the perfect candidate you aren't going to find one.

Heck, you can prove Trump lies every day, has cheated on all three of his wives, even with a porn star and millions still support him. He lies about ISIS being defeated, about N. Korea and Russia on a consistent basis.

The only chance we have at having a perfect president is if Jesus decides to run for the office. Until then I'm just looking for a drastic improvement.

Typical of this guy.
If he'd call Sandra Fluck a 'slut' for wanting prescription birth control medicine to control her menstrual symptoms...

...he'd see no difference between a law school graduate/prosecuting attorney/US Senator....
...and a porn star.



What an intellectual heavyweight.

Yet we see people follow and quote these people.

Your right Buddy and we agree 100 percent on that. When it comes to Kasick.... yes that's what I call him. I am biased 100 percent. He is the a-hole that caused me to lose health insurance right in the middle of my Chemo. He is the candidate who made fun of M.R.D.D. people and caused harm to them. Everybody knows Trump is a no good rotton SOB, but people still hold up Kasich as a good guy when he is no better at all than Trump.

He did expand medicaid in Ohio and I give him credit for that. I was just looking for someone more moderate and he fit the bill.

He did expand medicare which I agreed with. I agreed with him on that. You know me bro I give credit where credit is do IMO. and I bash those that I don't agree with. If I am proven wrong I have no problem admitting it and saying I screwed up. I just know for a fact that Kasick thinks his crap doesn't stink and that he is better than everybody else. You know me and I don't go for that.

I know that. I was just looking at who the choices were and trying to find the lesser of the evils.

Just like our last election when I did the same thing

I just couldn't find one in the last election that was "lesser of the evils" enough.

Nope they all sucked longer, harder, and deeper, than Linda Lovelace.

So you couldn't find any liberal comparing any GOP congressperson to a porn star? I'm not surprised. When people say x is a sexist because they don't like Kamala, just remember, it's not because x disagrees with their policy, it's because they attack her personally.

Yes, I agree that both sides should immediately clean up how they act. I thought it was unbecoming of the left to come after Bristol and her son, even though Sarah's sellingpoint was her traditional family lifestyle. I thought it was equally as abhorrent as the right stalked Obama's daughters calling them "monkeys" and other extremely demeaning things.

What I find most abhorrent was that Bush Jr. attacked John McCain for adopting a black kid in the early 2000's. That was absolutely disgusting.

You're right that both sides need to stop lowering themselves to personal attacks about the family members of politicians. However, that doesn't mean that we should focus personal attacks onto the politicians themselves.

We should look to actually talk about policy instead of personally attacking people we disagree with.

Is the democrat party going to have any candidates who are actual democrats and not out in left field? Serious question. You all got dumb candidates out there who

A. Want to somehow abolish ICE. Really? Huh? Do they have any type of solution for border security? Whoops, I guess not.

B. Want universal healthcare and education for all. Huh? That is not economically viable for anyone.

C. Want a lot of useless gun control.



I think you should all vote for Howard Schultz.

A. ICE has been around since 2002.
B. Well, private healthcare and education are currently not economically viable for most people.
C. LOL

I think you should vote for Howard Shultz. I think Republicans just do a lot more to work with Democrats, hopefully they do so under the same Republican party. Gay people are OK. Global warming is happening! You can't stop it Republicans, the only things keeping you apart seem so much smaller compared to 70% marginal tax rates, healthcare for all and public ownership of resources.

Howard Schultz looks like a likely option at this point. I'm calling it now! He will win the 2020 presidential election!

only if Trump's base and disenfranchised centrist dems support him in force from jump. He will need a lot of momentum before primaries or will lose all his air.

I am interested in reading his positions on issues. I haven't been able to find them anywere yet. Hes been in the media so much its hard to narrow it down via google.

Any info?

So far all I see is, "Hey I'm a businessman billionaire that wants to return to the centrist status quo. I have zero political experience but I can do this because I'm rich and ran a business. If you are sick of the right/left divide, I'm your guy."... And he wants to do this as a third party candidate because neither party's base wants a vanilla centrist right now.

I personally think he's about protecting the rich from taxes and trying to preserve the power structure that brought us to where we are... establishment center.

Yet that's exactly where we need to be, right in the middle. Sounds like I have someone to research.

just because conservatives blindly supported a billionaire who doesn't know what he's doing doesn't mean liberals are gonna do the same thing.

that CEO can kick rocks. and here we go again with people hyping a third(purgatory) party candidate that everyone knows won't win.

So your saying people shouldn't vote who they think the best candidate is. They should only vote party.

Party over country is something I have seen you blast the right for, but you just made that same stance.

i did not make that stance. quite pathetic of you to even imply it. it also shows that despite me repeatedly saying we need a viable third party - PARTY, not individual running as a 3rd candidate- you clearly ignored everything i've posted throughout the threads on it, which also shows why its pointless making serious post on here, if people will just ignore everything said in the past.

the guy won't win, and the guy won't get the majority support from the country. all he will do is run interference for either trump or whoever the Dems run. in the dating world, thats called c* blocking. you know, i know it, and memphis cheerleading ass liking your post knows it.

the SAME thing i'm saying now is the same thing i said when yall was trying to hype of gary johnson, and we all saw what happened with that nut job.

also, cause i'm not freaking done, once again you've ignored my stance on the fact that i'm specifically stated i wont support billionaires running for office. i've made that stance beyond a shadow of a doubt clear, and yet here you go spreading false narratives.

you can kick rocks right along with that CEO.

No, I refuse to go back and read 6 pages of the same rhetoric over and over.

I commented on your last post, because that's the only post I care to have read.

A lot of people said Trump wouldn't win either, that didn't turn out as you hoped.

Everyone I know complains about the left and complains about the right, and are constantly complaining about candidates and lack of quality there are, yet go to the booth year in and year out voting the same crap way they have in the past.

Why wasn't Gary Johnson or Jill Stein allowed to be in the debates with Trump and Hillary? Some archaic rules I would suppose to keep them both out so the majority of the country doesn't see that their are other options.

That's the problem, not that a 3rd party couldn't or wouldn't win, its because the media and status quo is to keep the everyday joe from knowing about them.

hmm, why? Trumps not a billionare you have said multiple times lol

Ones income at a certain point, does it matter? 100 million dollars or a billion, honestly.

FYI, when LeBron runs, and hes a billionare, ill remember you said that too

i stopped reading the rest of your post the moment you mentioned trump.

trump ran under the GOP banner. he was their candidate and not a third party candidate, which is the ENTIRE POINT of my post about that CEO.

good lord you can't even stick to the basics.

There's your sign, I never equated trump to running as a 3rd party. smh.

Shultz is more of a conservative than a liberal. He’d actually have a chance as a GOP candidate. IMO I see him taking a lot of votes away from trump, not so much the dems. Besides trump looks weaker and weaker everyday. So it really doesn’t matter to me if Schulz throws his hat in as an indie. He’ll spend a bunch, and lose a bunch.

America is such a pathetic hellscape that we can no longer operate as a nation without a billionaire telling us what we need to do. That billionaire just so happens to run a coffee company who had a company day off to remind employees not to call police on black people. We're so sad.

j/c

I haven't looked at many of the candidates closely. I watched Kamala Harris in her town hall. As with most politicians most of her answers were vague and included more rhetoric than actually addressing the questions. Typical.

But here's what I will say about her. It seems the main objective of the Dems is to defeat Trump. And that's just common sense. Everyone on here knows how I feel about him and why.

So if that's the actual goal, they'll have to nominate a candidate that can take Trump on one on one. That's where I feel Harris has the upper hand. Being a former prosecutor and D.A. gives her a killer instinct. She's gone toe to toe with high priced defense attorneys and understands how to convince people of her way of thinking. She knows how to handle wanna be tough guys like Trump.

She's the one candidate coming from the Democrats that I feel has the best chance to take Trump on one on one and mop the floor with him. Presidential debates have a lot of sway with voters and I can see her beating his arse at it.

It would give many of those who voted for Trump an alternative and still be able to say they didn't vote for the Democratic candidate.

i agree with that.

but still, she better make sure she has realistic plans if she does indeed beat Trump. people are crying about the medicare for all position she's taken, but thats actually a popular idea amongst a lot of americans, and depending on how this year and next plays out, could be ultimately have majority support. that and single payer is already very popular with us liberals, and slowly gaining more support from conservatives who are ticked that republicans still haven't done squat to address the problem.

but what about all her other positions? time will tell i suppose. she has some ethical concerns that bother me, but who doesn't. she's certainly the favorite over Pocahontas and Spartacus right now, and Trump and his base wouldn't be looking forward to Trump vs Harris on the debate stage, thats for sure.

One thing about it, you know Trump and some of his followers would say a lot of stupid things that would make it pretty easy to spot some of the racists.

i agree, although it will be less about race and a lot more about her dating life, which the right is already starting the smear campaign over.

there's plenty of actual policy issues to criticize her over, i'm just worried the right won't focus on that and focus more on her own dating life.

Kamala is already hedging against Medicare 4 All. She's another snake politician.

all of them are snakes. we're simply trying to pick the best one.

That's rich coming from the right and easily countered. They elected a man who has cheated on all three of his wives including with a porn star and a playboy bunny. Now they want to talk about morals?